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Wonders of Progaming

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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 13:20:45
August 02 2009 11:56 GMT
#1
I assembled a list of some unique achievements in progaming which could be called 'Wonders'. Maybe I forgot something, maybe some of them should not be called 'Wonders', but I think that such a list can be interesting for fans.

To find out which of these 'Wonders' are more wonderful I decided to list them in the following poll.

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Poll: Which of these 'Wonders of Progaming' is more wonderful?
(Vote): The only protoss to win 2 OSLs (Garimto)
(Vote): 3 consequent OSL finals with two consequent victories (Boxer)
(Vote): The only foreigner to win a Korean individual league (Grrrr...)
(Vote): Longest streak at the 1st place in KeSPA Rankings (17 monthes, Boxer)
(Vote): Longest streak in TOP 30 of KeSPA Rankings (87 monthes, NaDa)
(Vote): 27-0 streak in TvZ (iloveoov)
(Vote): 16-0 winning streak in TV games (GoRush)
(Vote): 17-0 streak in PvP (Best)
(Vote): The youngest age of TV win (13 years, 2 monthes and 17 days, Baby)
(Vote): The youngest OSL champion (15 years, 8 monthes and 10 days, Flash)
(Vote): One player dominance (92,19% over 3rd place in KeSPA Rankings, Savior)
(Vote): Absolute ZvZ dominance (82-24, 77.36%, Jaedong)

Upd: When you think about Savior's dominance, please, think about it as '5 straight MSL finals, 3 victories (savior)'. It would better reflect his wonder
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 02 2009 11:57 GMT
#2
The only foreigner to win a Korean individual league (Grrrr...)
No doubts here.
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Hiphopapotamus
Profile Joined July 2009
United States121 Posts
August 02 2009 12:04 GMT
#3
iloveoov 27-0 streak. CRAZINESSSS
My lyrics are bottomless!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51664 Posts
August 02 2009 12:04 GMT
#4
oov's 27-0 TvZ

It was simply unthinkable to pull something like that off at the time.

Giyom's isn't THAT impressive, because it was during at time where foreigners were pretty much equivalent skill level to Koreans.
If he won today though, it would be a completely different story.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 02 2009 12:08 GMT
#5
Oov 27-0
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
August 02 2009 12:10 GMT
#6
27-0 is pretty impressive but I think the long-term absolute stranglehold Jaedong has over ZvZ is more amazing. It's one thing to be fucking amazing but it's another to be fucking amazing in over 100 games
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 12:12:35
August 02 2009 12:11 GMT
#7
On August 02 2009 21:04 GTR wrote:
oov's 27-0 TvZ

It was simply unthinkable to pull something like that off at the time.

Giyom's isn't THAT impressive, because it was during at time where foreigners were pretty much equivalent skill level to Koreans.
If he won today though, it would be a completely different story.


This pretty much sums it all up. Grrr... won when it was a fairly level playing field, before kids were growing up with the game. If you figure a kid was 7 when SC came out, he was 10-12 when it first hit popularity, and his life could legitimately revolve around aspiring to become a pro, just like American football. Figure they are now 18-20 (Read: Jaedong's age). Now winning an OSL/MSL even GOM would be fucking impressive.

oov went on a 27 game winstreak in a matchup, something that will never happen again.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 12:22:49
August 02 2009 12:13 GMT
#8
NaDa is a true champion in SC and in RL if you have read the story about his father dieing in a car accident and what a fighter NaDa is...and um have you seen his biceps lately? I want to see him armwrestle Daniel Lee lol ^___^
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 02 2009 12:16 GMT
#9
can you add
"Orion beating Jaedong in JvZ"
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 02 2009 12:17 GMT
#10
Oov by far. 27-0 is like Cal Ripkens consecutive game streak; it will never be broken.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 02 2009 12:30 GMT
#11
Yeah, when I see Oov 27-0, it explodes my mind.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 02 2009 12:34 GMT
#12
1) oov
2) savior
3) boxer
4) nada
5) jaedong
POGGERS
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
August 02 2009 12:39 GMT
#13
hard to compare some of these, even though nadas consistency is epic, I'll still go for oov. 27-0 just shouldn't be possible in progaming.

Really nice poll!
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 12:55:39
August 02 2009 12:42 GMT
#14
Absolute ZvZ dominance (82-24, 77.36%, Jaedong)

His peak is well over 80% which he had just few week ago.

Z=Z, T>Z especially pre muta abuse
~90 games sample vs 27 games sample
ZvZ = is still thought to be a rock-paper-scissors mu with bo wins all the time.

JD's ZvZ is easily the most impressive thing other than the career achievement of Nada.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 02 2009 12:52 GMT
#15
As I can see now, 2 OSLs victories of Garimto is not wonderful at all...
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 02 2009 13:13 GMT
#16
Nada ez.

He is just the coolest, most genius, well-rounded player ever to grace the world of Starcraft.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 02 2009 13:17 GMT
#17
On August 02 2009 21:52 Bifur wrote:
As I can see now, 2 OSLs victories of Garimto is not wonderful at all...

Imo shouldve included, "5 straight MSL finals, 3 victories (savior)"
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 02 2009 13:18 GMT
#18
On August 02 2009 22:17 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 21:52 Bifur wrote:
As I can see now, 2 OSLs victories of Garimto is not wonderful at all...

Imo shouldve included, "5 straight MSL finals, 3 victories (savior)"

Yes, it is quite impressive and maybe it would be better to replace the 'One player dominance' by this description of Savior.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
August 02 2009 13:24 GMT
#19
Nada then Oov streak

men.. 87 MONTHS !!!!!!
n_n
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
August 02 2009 13:25 GMT
#20
oovie oov oov of course
Bisu... ;-(
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