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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 03 2009 18:24 GMT
#61
27-0 TvZ is ridiculous! Nada is a very, very close second.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 03 2009 18:31 GMT
#62
I would vote for Slayer winning the first KBK.
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
August 03 2009 18:33 GMT
#63
Most of those accomplishments are very amazing, but the one that sticks out as a 'wonder' the most is Nada's Kespa top 30 streak. It's the one that really makes you think, "How the hell did he do that? How does he remain dedicated for so long, even after slumping?"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
August 03 2009 18:34 GMT
#64
should have something for Nada winning 3 MSLs and 3 OSLs.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 18:42 GMT
#65
Terran nada Z jaedong P bisu





Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 03 2009 18:42 GMT
#66
voted oov, but nada is a very close second
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
August 03 2009 18:59 GMT
#67
dayum nada
have i even been alive that long?
nonetheless, voted for oov.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 03 2009 21:12 GMT
#68
very nice poll
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
August 03 2009 21:21 GMT
#69
I dislike too much Savior fanboyism but his dominance was most noticable here and I recognize it more than Oovs or Nada's. Oov was more of a revolutionist and Nada was rather stable winner than dominator while Savior was a doom for his opponents. So my vote went for savior. Grr and Garimto should be rather "honorable mentions" as they had solid iccup C skills during D+ ages of brood war.
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RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
August 03 2009 21:24 GMT
#70
Nada...87 months.


Someone compared oov to Cal Ripken but I would have to say Nada being compared to him is a bit more appropriate.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 03 2009 21:40 GMT
#71
oov, 27-0 is just totally sick. Noone will ever match this record...
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
August 03 2009 21:47 GMT
#72
Flash can very well break Nada's record.. but Oov's record is impossible.. It's truly a wonder.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
August 03 2009 21:49 GMT
#73
does anyone know who is second in that kespa streak thing?
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
August 03 2009 21:51 GMT
#74
On August 04 2009 06:47 darkemperor wrote:
Flash can very well break Nada's record.. but Oov's record is impossible.. It's truly a wonder.


you really think they are going to be playing SC/BW 6 years from now?
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
August 03 2009 21:53 GMT
#75
On August 04 2009 06:51 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:47 darkemperor wrote:
Flash can very well break Nada's record.. but Oov's record is impossible.. It's truly a wonder.


you really think they are going to be playing SC/BW 6 years from now?


Does it really matter? KESPA is eternal, unfortunately.
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 03 2009 22:35 GMT
#76
On August 04 2009 06:49 Hot_Bid wrote:
does anyone know who is second in that kespa streak thing?

I think it is (Z)ChoJJa. He had streak of 66 months.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
August 03 2009 23:10 GMT
#77
On August 03 2009 05:52 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 05:32 Liquid`NonY wrote:
best's pvp streak is better than iloveoov's tvz streak

but nada's ranking streak blows both of them away


i'll throw down a few reasons for my first statement:
--the era of best's streak was harder and more competitive than the era of oov's streak
--tvz favors terran. it did before oov came along, while oov was there, and it still does even after the eras of july, savior and jaedong. pvp is balanced
--oov had boxer helping him. bisu's pvp tutelage doesn't match boxer's tvz tutelage

oov's success had to do with his new style and general strategy. it was a one-time genius that he played out for as long as he could. it's better to think of his streak in terms of how long it took opposing players to figure out how to win. if july didnt exist, the streak would probably be even longer, but oov's act is still the same. he would just be lucky enough to live in a world where his act got him even further.

best, on the other hand, was playing against some great protoss players and he was beating them without any advantage other than on-the-spot decisions and composure. his macro superiority doesnt kick in until each player has 3+ bases. and even then, he might not be superior, since the protoss players of his streak's era were all capable of great macro. and the most amazing thing about it is that coaches and players were choosing to do percentage builds against best while best was usually just doing a very safe build so that he could survive for 8 minutes and work the mid game. he kept his streak alive by winning games from a disadvantaged position because he would not leave his games to chance. he just simply outplayed people in an era when that is nearly impossible to do for very long and in a matchup when outplaying someone often isnt enough.

While I agree that Best streak was sick there is one thing that makes Oovs streak better imo, and that is the fact that he played 4 BO3s and 1BO5 during the streak compared to Best`s 2 BO3 vs Much and that noname toss from Khan. And its obvious that its way harder to keep win streaks when playing BO series than just single games a day in proleague and oov emerged without losses from all of them. And if you want to compare the skill level of their opponents, the skill level of oovs opponents was also high, he beat all the best Zergs of the day including Chojja, Yellow, Gorush and July several times before he finally lost vs him.

Also Best was "lucky" in several of the games where his opponents more or less threw away the games. (vs Jangbi on BS for example or vs Kal on chupung where he was getting badly outplayed until he caught Kals army out of position) AND he did dual proxygate Stork in the center of Andromeda, not exactly what I would call a safe way of outplaying his opponents

Still a sick impressive feat tho.
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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 03 2009 23:10 GMT
#78
On August 04 2009 07:35 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:49 Hot_Bid wrote:
does anyone know who is second in that kespa streak thing?

I think it is (Z)ChoJJa. He had streak of 66 months.

No. I was wrong. The second is (T)XellOs with 67 months.

Others:
(T)BoxeR has streak of 61 months.
(Z)YellOw has streak of 64 months.
(T)iloveoov has streak of 52 months.
(P)Reach has streak of 50 months.
(Z)July has streak of 43 months.
(P)Kingdom has streak of 38 months.
(P)Nal_rA has two streaks: 31 months and then 26 months.
(T)Goodfriend has streak of 42 months.
(P)Anytime has streak of 36 months.
(T)Midas has streak of 38 months.
(Z)sAviOr has streak of 41 months.
(T)Hwasin has streak of 33 months.
(P)Stork has streaks of 16 months and 28 months.
(P)Bisu has streak of 35 months.
(Z)Jaedong has streak of 33 months.
(P)Grrrr... has streak of 28 months.
(T)Sea[Shield] has streak of 38 months.
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] has streak of 38 months.
(P)free has streak of 32 months.
(T)Flash has streak of 26 months.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 03 2009 23:14 GMT
#79
NaDa over everything 97 months.. that takes some serious magic + skill.
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 03 2009 23:36 GMT
#80
How about "best overall carreer records in TL's power rank?"
That would be a real wonder.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
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