• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:14
CET 05:14
KST 13:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview12Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career BSL Season 21 - Complete Results [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Join illminati in Luanda Angola+27 60 696 7068
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1437 users

Progamer Migration Revisited

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33541 Posts
December 22 2003 00:56 GMT
#1
Avid readers of our site may have noticed a post from POS_Legion a few weeks ago regarding the movements of progamers between teams. Legion quickly requested the deletion of his post, fearing he had revealed information that still wasn't supposed to be open to the public. Well, it turns out that what he said was pretty much correct, as a Koreans newspaper has confirmed some interesting things.


Source: An article from the Korean newspapper GoodDay, found on pgr21.com. It's not the most reliable newspaper in the world, and they're known to twist words very severely. But hey, it's still the closest there is to official confirmation.

First off, Dong Yang Orion has decided to stop sponsoring their team. Orion is one of the top teams, featuring Boxer, ILoveoov, and Kingdom.

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

Apparently, it won't be a big problem for Boxer's team. The article states that 3~4 companies that have been interested in making a progame team have already started to contact Boxer's team.


Second up, Nada and Yellow are leaving KTF. They receive huge amounts of money from KTF at the moment, Nada at 50,000,000 won for 6 months, and Yellow at a similar level. However, it looked like they are going to move to Toona SG. I doubt they would have left unless the money was right, so it will be interesting to see exactly how much Toona SG offered.

Asides from the money, we can speculate about the conditions in the KTF team. It is well known that they are forced to practice for long periods of time, and Oddysay was previously kicked out because he couldn't agree with those rules. Also, the recent incident involving the Jang brothers and the KTF manager indicates that the KTF manager may not be the nicest of men to work for.


So what is KTF's solution to losing their two top players (frankly speaking, yellow/nada were 95% of KTF)? Why, they will throw money at the problem -_-! Reach and Sync of the Hanbitsoft team will be moving to the KTF team. The article says that they have already joined the KTF team at their quarters to practice.



Such huge news! Even more rumors are going around in the back involving other players, and there are some very big names included. But until more proof comes up, that's only speculating.

Toona SG has just become the no.1 team in all of BW. They were already a fairly good team, GoodFriend in particular. With Nada and Yellow, they will dominate -_-!

KTF will still be a decent team, Hanbitsoft is now officially f*cked. If Junwi left Hanbit, it would leave them slightly below Samsung Khan.

Interesting!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 22 2003 01:06 GMT
#2
Wow Toona, what a mean mean, smart move -.-

-Mynock
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:07 GMT
#3
wow
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:12 GMT
#4
KTF has Nada and Yellow but they are 1-4
Toona Sg is 4-2 now and Nada, Yellow Toona will be great
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
.KOZI.
Profile Joined April 2003
Czech Republic61 Posts
December 22 2003 01:40 GMT
#5
can anyone write there complet member list of each team? thx
inax
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland11 Posts
December 22 2003 01:43 GMT
#6
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
December 22 2003 02:04 GMT
#7
my guess is ToonaSG will sell nada and yellow to a different team
toona definitly doesn't have enough money to pay nada and yellow
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
December 22 2003 02:28 GMT
#8
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 22 2003 02:37 GMT
#9
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


if that were so id drop out of school and devote the rest of my life to try and get into boxer's team
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 22 2003 02:45 GMT
#10
Ah so that's what happened to that thread, I recall using search to find it again and coming up with nothing:p
Seems progaming is growing at greater rates, with teams offering more and more money to the best players
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
December 22 2003 03:03 GMT
#11
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
TomciO
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland414 Posts
December 22 2003 04:25 GMT
#12
Hanbit's situation isn't so bad because they still have Silent_Control.
shuttlespeed
Profile Joined April 2003
512 Posts
December 22 2003 04:33 GMT
#13
what about chojja going to KTF? is it true?
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
December 22 2003 04:48 GMT
#14
Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

420,000,000 is 350,000 USD. When divided by eight (the number of people on Orion) this equals 43,750 USD per year per member. This does not include any additional expenses that they might have to pay for. So 420,000,000 won seems perfectly reasonable. Shame Dong yang wouldn't pay.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
December 22 2003 04:50 GMT
#15
On December 22 2003 12:03 Emlary wrote:
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...


hanbit still have [oops]autumn(P), silent_control(T), and crystal[inca](z)

from all those wgt reps of crystal's zvz, i bet that's how junwi became so good at ZvZ ATM.
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
December 22 2003 04:51 GMT
#16
On December 22 2003 11:28 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no


what inax meant should be 1 dollar / 1200 won ^^
wax meant 1 dollar =^ 1200 won

but damn, they get nice amounts of money, i mean 100k a year, not including prize money.. nada soon first pro gamer millionaire
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
December 22 2003 04:58 GMT
#17
lol? :D
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 22 2003 06:33 GMT
#18
<3 Leg for giving us the inside scoop :D

man, hanbit used to be the like the best too.. since they were the ones who sold starcraft(I think)
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
December 22 2003 06:40 GMT
#19
Wax + Legion gossip combo
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
December 22 2003 08:09 GMT
#20
Damn, what a sad day for KTF~
Ghost Me
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Playoffs Day 2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 221
UpATreeSC 191
ProTech120
Livibee 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 383
Leta 269
GoRush 54
Hyuk 36
NaDa 34
Noble 22
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm145
febbydoto18
League of Legends
JimRising 922
C9.Mang0418
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv537
Foxcn273
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1696
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor135
Other Games
summit1g7152
tarik_tv2924
ViBE157
Maynarde123
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1441
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH257
• practicex 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4468
• Scarra1374
• Lourlo461
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
5h 46m
WardiTV Invitational
7h 46m
YoungYakov vs MaxPax
ByuN vs herO
SHIN vs Classic
Creator vs Cure
Replay Cast
19h 46m
RongYI Cup
2 days
herO vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-04
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.