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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33581 Posts
December 22 2003 00:56 GMT
#1
Avid readers of our site may have noticed a post from POS_Legion a few weeks ago regarding the movements of progamers between teams. Legion quickly requested the deletion of his post, fearing he had revealed information that still wasn't supposed to be open to the public. Well, it turns out that what he said was pretty much correct, as a Koreans newspaper has confirmed some interesting things.


Source: An article from the Korean newspapper GoodDay, found on pgr21.com. It's not the most reliable newspaper in the world, and they're known to twist words very severely. But hey, it's still the closest there is to official confirmation.

First off, Dong Yang Orion has decided to stop sponsoring their team. Orion is one of the top teams, featuring Boxer, ILoveoov, and Kingdom.

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

Apparently, it won't be a big problem for Boxer's team. The article states that 3~4 companies that have been interested in making a progame team have already started to contact Boxer's team.


Second up, Nada and Yellow are leaving KTF. They receive huge amounts of money from KTF at the moment, Nada at 50,000,000 won for 6 months, and Yellow at a similar level. However, it looked like they are going to move to Toona SG. I doubt they would have left unless the money was right, so it will be interesting to see exactly how much Toona SG offered.

Asides from the money, we can speculate about the conditions in the KTF team. It is well known that they are forced to practice for long periods of time, and Oddysay was previously kicked out because he couldn't agree with those rules. Also, the recent incident involving the Jang brothers and the KTF manager indicates that the KTF manager may not be the nicest of men to work for.


So what is KTF's solution to losing their two top players (frankly speaking, yellow/nada were 95% of KTF)? Why, they will throw money at the problem -_-! Reach and Sync of the Hanbitsoft team will be moving to the KTF team. The article says that they have already joined the KTF team at their quarters to practice.



Such huge news! Even more rumors are going around in the back involving other players, and there are some very big names included. But until more proof comes up, that's only speculating.

Toona SG has just become the no.1 team in all of BW. They were already a fairly good team, GoodFriend in particular. With Nada and Yellow, they will dominate -_-!

KTF will still be a decent team, Hanbitsoft is now officially f*cked. If Junwi left Hanbit, it would leave them slightly below Samsung Khan.

Interesting!
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 22 2003 01:06 GMT
#2
Wow Toona, what a mean mean, smart move -.-

-Mynock
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:07 GMT
#3
wow
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:12 GMT
#4
KTF has Nada and Yellow but they are 1-4
Toona Sg is 4-2 now and Nada, Yellow Toona will be great
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
.KOZI.
Profile Joined April 2003
Czech Republic61 Posts
December 22 2003 01:40 GMT
#5
can anyone write there complet member list of each team? thx
inax
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland11 Posts
December 22 2003 01:43 GMT
#6
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
December 22 2003 02:04 GMT
#7
my guess is ToonaSG will sell nada and yellow to a different team
toona definitly doesn't have enough money to pay nada and yellow
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
December 22 2003 02:28 GMT
#8
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 22 2003 02:37 GMT
#9
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


if that were so id drop out of school and devote the rest of my life to try and get into boxer's team
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Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 22 2003 02:45 GMT
#10
Ah so that's what happened to that thread, I recall using search to find it again and coming up with nothing:p
Seems progaming is growing at greater rates, with teams offering more and more money to the best players
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
December 22 2003 03:03 GMT
#11
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
TomciO
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland414 Posts
December 22 2003 04:25 GMT
#12
Hanbit's situation isn't so bad because they still have Silent_Control.
shuttlespeed
Profile Joined April 2003
512 Posts
December 22 2003 04:33 GMT
#13
what about chojja going to KTF? is it true?
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
December 22 2003 04:48 GMT
#14
Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

420,000,000 is 350,000 USD. When divided by eight (the number of people on Orion) this equals 43,750 USD per year per member. This does not include any additional expenses that they might have to pay for. So 420,000,000 won seems perfectly reasonable. Shame Dong yang wouldn't pay.
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bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
December 22 2003 04:50 GMT
#15
On December 22 2003 12:03 Emlary wrote:
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...


hanbit still have [oops]autumn(P), silent_control(T), and crystal[inca](z)

from all those wgt reps of crystal's zvz, i bet that's how junwi became so good at ZvZ ATM.
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
December 22 2003 04:51 GMT
#16
On December 22 2003 11:28 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no


what inax meant should be 1 dollar / 1200 won ^^
wax meant 1 dollar =^ 1200 won

but damn, they get nice amounts of money, i mean 100k a year, not including prize money.. nada soon first pro gamer millionaire
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
December 22 2003 04:58 GMT
#17
lol? :D
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 22 2003 06:33 GMT
#18
<3 Leg for giving us the inside scoop :D

man, hanbit used to be the like the best too.. since they were the ones who sold starcraft(I think)
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
December 22 2003 06:40 GMT
#19
Wax + Legion gossip combo
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
December 22 2003 08:09 GMT
#20
Damn, what a sad day for KTF~
Ghost Me
rOm
Profile Joined December 2002
Latvia1208 Posts
December 22 2003 08:24 GMT
#21
Can't wait to see how much YellOw will be paid in Toona
My RSX owns yours.
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
December 22 2003 09:05 GMT
#22
So now Hanbit has left Junwi, HOT, Silent_Control, and Crystal[Inca]

That's a very small team
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
December 22 2003 10:22 GMT
#23
hanbit also has their amateurs

stay[hyo] (zerg) and
reach (protoss) (no not oops)Reach)

they actually got them to play in the itv league while they tried to sort out their team mess recently. POS won 3-0 should be showing sometime early in 2004. i think.

poor hanbit
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
December 22 2003 10:51 GMT
#24
On December 22 2003 19:22 Legionnaire wrote:
hanbit also has their amateurs

stay[hyo] (zerg) and
reach (protoss) (no not oops)Reach)

they actually got them to play in the itv league while they tried to sort out their team mess recently. POS won 3-0 should be showing sometime early in 2004. i think.

poor hanbit


stay[hyo]? lol...hes certainly above average...but hes really not so good.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
December 22 2003 11:05 GMT
#25
I think toona will just find co-sponsors or something. It's going to become very popular, and there shouldn't be any problem with that.
MaxPepper
Profile Joined January 2003
Sri Lanka298 Posts
December 22 2003 12:36 GMT
#26
could somebody post a list of Toona and KTF with their new players plzzzzz
Freedom is not something you live for, its something you die for.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
December 22 2003 12:37 GMT
#27
On December 22 2003 13:48 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

420,000,000 is 350,000 USD. When divided by eight (the number of people on Orion) this equals 43,750 USD per year per member. This does not include any additional expenses that they might have to pay for. So 420,000,000 won seems perfectly reasonable. Shame Dong yang wouldn't pay.


Wax, you know how korean pro teams pay their players? As far as i know players get a place to stay and food along with practice but no real money. Which would give boxer a bunch of moneys. Kingdom probably have a bonus for OGN victory, also iloveoov. I doubt it will be splitted evenly;)
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Petachu
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada354 Posts
December 22 2003 12:54 GMT
#28
i am sure boxer will take the biggest share of the 350,000, after all he IS the team leader, kingdom will get a bonus, but since he elliminated boxer in the top 8, he should be punished for high treason and have his bonus reduced to 1200 won... for oov, owning yellow means in whatever final is too common, so 2400 won should be enough... rainbow won the kbk, but still nothing TOO special, so 3600 won shut him up... as of zerglee and that new guy, since they did almost nothing in recent boxer memory, he will simply provide the 2 poor zerg players with enough food to keep them alive while having enough strength to move their hands to play bw... the rest boxer will keep for himself...
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
December 22 2003 13:07 GMT
#29
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nullmind
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
1303 Posts
December 22 2003 14:38 GMT
#30
shit now I see why KTF manager is a mean guy. He probably get paid less than half of the players he manages like Nada and Yellow so he forces them to train hard thinking it will torture them -_-;;
ZZZnachor
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland200 Posts
December 22 2003 14:40 GMT
#31
Haw much they cost ? ^^
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
December 22 2003 15:01 GMT
#32
On December 22 2003 19:22 Legionnaire wrote:
hanbit also has their amateurs

stay[hyo] (zerg) and
reach (protoss) (no not oops)Reach)

they actually got them to play in the itv league while they tried to sort out their team mess recently. POS won 3-0 should be showing sometime early in 2004. i think.

poor hanbit


That reach dude should be forced to change his name... it's confusing. How about a little creativity here? heh
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
December 22 2003 16:22 GMT
#33
Wow, thanks to Leg for the inside scoop~ and good luck to NaDa and YellOw in their new team Toona with GooDFrienD now rocks :D
gl hf ~~
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 22 2003 21:36 GMT
#34
50,000,000.....

Jesus Christ.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-22 23:09:31
December 22 2003 23:08 GMT
#35
uhhhh i was chobo i forgot the name and asked bejjang and he said reach, but later on i remembered it wasn't reach i was thinking about but it was really [oops]autumn (not normal autumn)

i'd also like to point out i have a 6-0 winning ratio for team league matches!!!! woot!~~ *begins to dance the macarana*
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
December 22 2003 23:15 GMT
#36
gw legioN!! anyway i think the amounts requested are certainly reasonable considering how big SC seems to be in korea.
I put the fu in fun
OgerDaniel
Profile Joined March 2003
273 Posts
December 23 2003 04:03 GMT
#37
show off =[
taknemdwn
Profile Joined December 2003
United Kingdom9 Posts
December 23 2003 05:26 GMT
#38
i just watched mbc game and it showed Orion named 4u, is this their new name and sponsor??
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inax
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland11 Posts
December 24 2003 03:59 GMT
#39
oops I am tomfool =]

8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2720 Posts
December 27 2003 11:24 GMT
#40
What/who is "Dong yang orion"? Is it a company producing sth? It sounds like a korean name for me -_- (no offence).
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ohjeohje
Profile Joined August 2004
Finland52 Posts
October 22 2004 20:23 GMT
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