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I asked myself: "Is this the right place to post?" Because StarCraft is obviously the best argument for not buying a console.
But il just ignore that question for now. I met a guy this year who is very enthousiastic about the Playstation Portable (PSP from now on) I have been thinking on buying a console for some time now. And now im getting enthousiastic about the psp aswell! What does TL think about consoles?
+ Show Spoiler [Poll for your favorite console] +Poll: My favorite console is( Vote): Xbox ( Vote): Playstation ( Vote): Playstation Portable ( Vote): Gamecube ( Vote): Nintendo DS ( Vote): Other There is an other option if you miss your favorite, i couldn't think of any other console.  Fail edit: How Could i have forgotten the Wii?!
Starcraft on the Playstation
I know there is an Starcraft (and Diablo for that matter) version for the Playstation. It happens to be that the PSP can play all of the old Playstation games. Has anyone played this? Is it worth to play SC on the Console?
+ Show Spoiler [Starcraft on console is..] +Poll: Starcraft on the console is( Vote): Very good game ( Vote): Fun, but way different then Pc ( Vote): It is pretty bad ( Vote): Do not come near to this #$%&
I CAN HAS PSP PLOX?
I have just bought the PSP of Amazon.co.uk. The website tracking system says It is going to delivered on 27 april. I can't wait until i have it in my hands! I'm hoping that the PSP will give me some great hours of playtime  I got the PSP 2000 Slim and Lite. I bought the 2000 instead of the newer 3000 since the 2000 is modable and the 3000 is protected against it
Recommend me some games
As you read above i have the PSP that alows me to mod it with a custom firmware. So any downloadable game is mine!
The most important thing is to have the right games for ultimate gaming fun. Have you played games for the Playstation or PSP that are really good fun? Please post the genre too so i can filter the genres i don't really like. 
+ Show Spoiler [List so far:] +
tl;dr: know any psp games worth playing?
Thank you,
Wo0py
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Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria. GREAT GAME, imo a MUST PLAY.
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I heard alot about this. I think ill have to try it out
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this entire thread confuses me since vp2 is a ps2 game.
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Patapon is for girls btw,..
Some PSP games I've played and I recommend
Monster hunter 2 freedom (probably need some friends playing this to keep the interest going)
Metal slug anthology
Crush
Puzzle Quest
DJ max (can't remember whether there's a II)
God of war
Midnight club
There's some more. I'll add when my brain is working
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VP2 isn't on PSP... VP:Lenneth is, though. Great game imo.
Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (and the upcoming Monster Hunter Freedom Unite), or if you are willing go to through some hurdles you can get MH Portable 2G with the English translation patch.
Phantasy Star Portable.
Star Ocean and Star Ocean 2 remakes are pretty decent.
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, Darkstalkers collection (tower of chaos or something), Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX are pretty good.
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I have a modded PSP, thanks to a friend 
It took me a lot of reading around on forums before I got all the emulators such as SNES, Sega, GBA etc but I think it is great fun when you just feel like some portable fun, which makes everything seem somewhat cute
The PSP can play PSX games but you'll need to convert ISOs to eboots and get Popsloader as to make it run smoothly, I don't get it too much but I just mucked about until the right one got it working fine, however, sometimes games have points that'll not work at all or at certain parts and you may need to research the solutions
PSX games that are more than one disc are a hassle, e.g. famous RPGs like Xenogears and FFs, I still haven't fully got the grasp on it. But good games to get are Suikoden for RPG as it's so expensive for the real thing and has good story
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I voted DS if we're not including SNES/SFC. As for SC64, there's not much of a reason to play it if you have it for the PC (who here doesn't, lol)
On April 24 2009 19:34 wo0py wrote:
Consoles
I asked myself: "Is this the right place to post?" Because StarCraft is obviously the best argument for not buying a console.
It's actually one of the worst argument I've heard for not buying a console
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Thanks for all your gametitles! Ill be checking it all out soon!
It's actually one of the worst argument I've heard for not buying a console
Well for me it has been for the latest 5 years. I never thought i would be playing psp when i got sc in pc.
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Final Fantasy Tactics remake if you didn't play it on PSX. IMO FFT was the best Final Fantasy game yet made (partly because I find tactical combat more interesting than traditional JRPG combat).
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StarCraft is not on the playstation, bu tWarCraft II is.
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Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth. That is all.
+ Show Spoiler +Okay, not really, but it's a great RPG that excels at everything. It features a unique turn-based action battle system and 2D puzzle platforming for dungeons.
Others:
Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles - Remake of the predecessor to the mega-hit Symphony of the Night. It includes unlockable SotN too. You can't go wrong with 2D Castlevania-style platforming action.
Mega Man Maverick Hunter X - Remake of Mega Man X. Enough said?
Lumines - One of my favorite block piece puzzle games (e.g. Tetris). It was extremely well-reviewed.
Breath of Fire III - This is one of the better traditional console-style RPGs ever made. It can be thought of as the capstone of the SNES RPG era, even though it spilled into the earlier PS1 days.
Star Ocean: First Departure - By the same people as VP:L, it's perhaps a little less inspired, but it's a strong action RPG; the remake of the JP SNES-only RPG.
Star Ocean: Second Evolution - Same as above, except the original SO2 was on PS1.
Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower - If you're going to play a fighting game on PSP, let it be from this Darkstalkers compilation.
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions - Too bad this otherwise pretty decent TRPG features kind of broken and silly combat. You can't have a TRPG where the combat is so shallow.
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On April 25 2009 01:54 Myrmidon wrote:
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions - Too bad this otherwise pretty decent TRPG features kind of broken and silly combat. You can't have a TRPG where the combat is so shallow.
Maybe I've played too many crappy TRPGs, but IMO, FFT's combat was significantly better than standard-fare. What other games did you have in mind that were better at it/what was broken about it to you?
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I pretty much only use my PSP as an SNES emulator. The 360 owns my gaming soul these days. God of War was good though and there are the excellent FFT and VP remakes mentioned above. Shame there's just not more original content for the system.
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On April 25 2009 02:42 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2009 01:54 Myrmidon wrote:
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions - Too bad this otherwise pretty decent TRPG features kind of broken and silly combat. You can't have a TRPG where the combat is so shallow. Maybe I've played too many crappy TRPGs, but IMO, FFT's combat was significantly better than standard-fare. What other games did you have in mind that were better at it/what was broken about it to you?
I guess you called me out for stretching even my own opinion of the game. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as FFTA and many others. I guess what irks me is the difference in quality between FFT and Tactics Ogre, games both by the same director. TO was released earlier, but it had 10 characters per team per map rather than 4-6, and it wasn't filled with characters like Orlandu and pretty much most of the unique characters you get that are much more powerful than the average enemy unit. The character customization in FFT was kind of cool, but the problem was that the enemy used all sorts of terrible and weak setups throughout the game, while the player had access to crazy good stuff like Calculators. Even the relatively easy-to-achieve setups were significantly more powerful than what the enemies used.
In FFT, you could revive characters without much hassle; in TO, characters died permanently unless you went a story branch that gave you the one copy of the one spell in the game that revives people (that costs lots of MP, etc.). FFT was mostly just much too easy for the most part. Granted, TO's Hell Gate gave you some FFT-like god-level abilities, but that was a secret 100-floor optional dungeon located 90% through the game.
I would place pretty much all Fire Emblem and Langrisser series games above FFT in terms of combat though, but those games are obviously of a different style of TRPG.
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On April 25 2009 04:52 Myrmidon wrote:
I guess you called me out for stretching even my own opinion of the game. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as FFTA and many others. I guess what irks me is the difference in quality between FFT and Tactics Ogre, games both by the same director. TO was released earlier, but it had 10 characters per team per map rather than 4-6, and it wasn't filled with characters like Orlandu and pretty much most of the unique characters you get that are much more powerful than the average enemy unit. The character customization in FFT was kind of cool, but the problem was that the enemy used all sorts of terrible and weak setups throughout the game, while the player had access to crazy good stuff like Calculators. Even the relatively easy-to-achieve setups were significantly more powerful than what the enemies used.
In FFT, you could revive characters without much hassle; in TO, characters died permanently unless you went a story branch that gave you the one copy of the one spell in the game that revives people (that costs lots of MP, etc.). FFT was mostly just much too easy for the most part. Granted, TO's Hell Gate gave you some FFT-like god-level abilities, but that was a secret 100-floor optional dungeon located 90% through the game.
I would place pretty much all Fire Emblem and Langrisser series games above FFT in terms of combat though, but those games are obviously of a different style of TRPG.
Agree with you on TO, but I can't agree on FE (at least, nothing released in English, 3-5 were passable, IMO), and I can't comment on Langrisser. FE for the most part promotes several fairly shallow gameplay elements. Its poor implementation of permanent death makes most people end up just playing by slowly turtling the way through a mission (because to properly expose the entire story, everyone needs to be alive), and its unbelievably shallow stat system makes for zero tailoring of your characters' roles the way you want them. You end up just playing with pre-defined roles, which is fairly boring. On top of that, its far to easy to abuse both elements of the system to turn the game into a grind, rather than a tactical challenge. Yes, you can *make* it harder for yourself, but IMO, games should punish poor play to begin with, rather than making good play an *option*.
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Oh, I just remembered, Tales of Eternia (3rd game in Tales series) was also released on PSP in EU, for what that's worth.
+ Show Spoiler [more off-topic] +Yeah, about FE a lot of people do play them really slowly, advancing only tank characters to take hits, etc. But at least in some of the games, you find yourself in positions being attacked from multiple sides or trying to rescue some new character(s) where you're obligated to play more excitingly. Anyhow, I thought since the games generally keep track of how many turns you take, you're "supposed" to play fast.
There's not much in the way of tailoring characters other than 1-2 class changes in general and the exception of FE4, true. Somewhat by coincidence but partly by the game design, FE4 is the one with the most customization and the most super-broken characters (I mean, those two points are somewhat related). Character customization is good, but many times like in FFT's case, it actually hurts the game IMHO because how it breaks the balance.
The strengths of FE to me are the importance of positioning and using map features, and the miscellaneous "cool" system features. Rescuing and passing your characters among themselves, "trading" weapons in order to switch another character's active weapon after that character's turn is over (before the enemy phase), extra turn shenanigans with dancer-type characters, unique staff effects, etc. are more strategically interesting to me than setting up characters pre-battle to be so good it doesn't matter really what you do in the battle.
I think Langrisser 2 and 4 are better than the FE series though. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff like Shining Force, Front Mission, etc., and then the whole slew of rip-offs like ____ Tactics (e.g. Onimusha Tactics) that stink up the genre.
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Since PSP can hardware emulate PS1 games, being able to play Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill 1, and another extremely popular game that shall remain unnamed on the go is pretty sweet. I run homebrew on both my DS and PSP and I gotta say DS has better games, but PSP has access to so many different emulators that you can't compare the two at all.
Like other people said, if you can get a party rollin' Monster Hunter's really sweet. Number one selling game in Japan for a reason.
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