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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:41 GMT
#1
Dear TL,

I've got an odd dilemma with some even odder stipulations for you.

I need to sand a board in half by hand, or by some means without power tools.

Items/manpower I have to work with
-Sandpaper
-7 guys from 7 am to 5 pm
-No power tools allowed
-Any items I acquire have to fit in a backpack
-said tools have to be relatively quiet OR easy to hide quickly
-the board is 2 inches thick + has to look like not just like a cut
-it needs to be done in one day

If you have any idea, ANY idea at all then throw it out there. Ridiculous or ingenious I wanna hear it. This is of the utmost importance to me and 6 other guys. I'm going to be able to read this post up until 630 am tomorrow, and after that depending on other things I might get a second try.

And let's be logical here: if your idea might conflict with one of the stipulations but you're not sure then post it anyway. The worst that can happen is that the idea is utterly worthless.

A thousand thank yous and my eldest child,
KTT
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
April 21 2009 00:42 GMT
#2
A hand saw?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
April 21 2009 00:44 GMT
#3
you have 10 hours and 14 hands. perhaps a butter knife

you're so sketchy btw
:)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 00:45 GMT
#4
this should be very easy. with that much time and 7 people, you shouldn't need anything other than the sandpaper and the board.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 02:17:46
April 21 2009 00:47 GMT
#5
Is this some kind of college prank>

Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

1 example of this is when you create a fire with the bowstring method. You wrap the bow around the string to hold it tight and to increase rotation by moving the stick instead of pulling the rope directly. And you have a stationary hand on the top with a rock or coconut shaped thing to hold it steady.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
April 21 2009 00:48 GMT
#6
*****Homework Thread Alert*****
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 21 2009 00:48 GMT
#7
Bunch of steakknives will do it no problem especially if you have that many hours.

Sounds sketchy as hell though, what the hell are you planning to do?!
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 00:49 GMT
#8
I guess you could make it easier by getting a wooden or cork block, and stick the sandpaper around the block, and then do the sanding with the block.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:49 GMT
#9
On April 21 2009 09:44 sMi.SyMPhOnY wrote:
you're so sketchy btw

Yeah...sorry I can't be more specific than this.

another stipulation - I can't saw this. And if I do I have to make it look like I sanded it

On April 21 2009 09:45 travis wrote:
this should be very easy. with that much time and 7 people, you shouldn't need anything other than the sandpaper and the board.


You would think so, wouldn't you? We tried this today. We all took turns sanding one spot as hard as we could and it only got down like 1/16''. It's really slow going. The sandpaper is a high grit but the friction or just the amount of sanding reduces it to feel almost like wet/dry sandpaper. And we don't have enough to be switching it out every hour.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
April 21 2009 00:50 GMT
#10
I think with seven of you there, you have enough psionic power to simply break it in half if you guys concentrate long enough.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:50 GMT
#11
On April 21 2009 09:48 Hawk wrote:
*****Homework Thread Alert*****

haha trust me this has nothing to do with academics.

On April 21 2009 09:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

I don't get exactly what you're saying, but I love it. I'll bring some rope and stuff tomorrow and see what I can do.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:51 GMT
#12
On April 21 2009 09:50 Insane Lane wrote:
I think with seven of you there, you have enough psionic power to simply break it in half if you guys concentrate long enough.

lol, I only try to use my psionic powers when I'm drunk.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
April 21 2009 00:52 GMT
#13
If it has nothing to do with economics, why don't you go to the store and spend a few bucks for a saw? Or go to a neighbor to use one for the day?
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 00:54:03
April 21 2009 00:53 GMT
#14
On April 21 2009 09:50 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 09:48 Hawk wrote:
*****Homework Thread Alert*****

haha trust me this has nothing to do with academics.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 09:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

I don't get exactly what you're saying, but I love it. I'll bring some rope and stuff tomorrow and see what I can do.



I appended my post with a little bit of an example. I can't be bothered to figure out how exactly you would rig up the saw and pulleys but that's your job anyways.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:07:23
April 21 2009 01:06 GMT
#15
You definitely need to give more details. Is this a creativity exercise or is this a practical one? It's hard to answer your question without knowing.

Also, how straight does the cut have to be? What type of wood are you working with? Really, you don't really have to sand all the way through--just a groove so that you can snap it in half along where you sanded. Of course this is all affected by what type of wood you're working with (how strong it is, are you cutting perpendicular or parallel, etc). Alternatively, if you're still having trouble, you can just use acid to burn through part of it and to weaken the inside of the wood so you can snap it. The cheap household acid of choice is boric acid (the stuff used in pools), but there are others. But of course be VERY CAREFUL with the stuff as it can burn through your clothing very rapidly. Keep baking soda handy to neutralize it, and when you snap the wood, there will be acid inside the wood, so step away in case it sprays everywhere. Also this will probably weaken your wood a lot too if you were going to use it for some heavy duty stuff.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
April 21 2009 01:06 GMT
#16
Assuming said job is to go well, would you mind making a new thread about *why* you have done this?
And my idea is extremely simple:
Put the board on a table so both sides are exposed.
Two guys on each side sanding edge, each sanding one half. Then the other three guys can just chill until someone gets bored, tired, or sore.

You have 10 hours. Get the lowest number (I don't know *exactly* what is stands for, but lower is coarser) sandpaper you can get your hands on, and start working!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 01:10 GMT
#17
On April 21 2009 09:49 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
You would think so, wouldn't you? We tried this today. We all took turns sanding one spot as hard as we could and it only got down like 1/16''. It's really slow going. The sandpaper is a high grit but the friction or just the amount of sanding reduces it to feel almost like wet/dry sandpaper. And we don't have enough to be switching it out every hour.


well that is surprising. and hmm, you have limited sandpaper?

well charlie's idea is good but maybe hard to set up.

did you try taking the block and putting sandpaper around the edge of the block, so that you can use the edge of the block against the board - rather than the flat surface of the block?

like, so that the part that was rubbing against the board would be like the bottom of a V




Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
April 21 2009 01:11 GMT
#18
Lol is this some kind of frat thing?
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:25:57
April 21 2009 01:23 GMT
#19
If the board is not flamable/protected against it, and with a lot of care you could probably use threads soaked with alcohol or some kind of fuel surround the middle of the board and then light it.

Should after some tries melt enough to separate easily with your own hands. Not the cleanest cut but oh well, youll never get it done with sandpaper.

Its probably really dumb since ive never tried it with wood lol, but its a sweet way to cut plastic bottles for storage.

Oh yeah forgot that you need water to put out the fire soon.
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patrick321
Profile Joined August 2004
United States185 Posts
April 21 2009 01:26 GMT
#20
If it just has to look like it wasn't cut then cut it and sand the sides. Or break it and sand the sides, but that might be louder. You could also hammer multiple nails into it and pull them out to open it up a little and reduce the amount of sanding/cutting/breaking you'll be doing. Put enough nails into it and you might even be able to break it around a tree with 6 people pushing on either side.
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