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Last Edited: 2009-04-16 16:38:04
April 16 2009 11:32 GMT
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Ruby's game against Hoejja to be considered a 'forfeit loss' after 'gg' incident
Ruby received a warning, and game to be recorded as a 'forfeit loss'


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An incident that goes against the rule of 'typing out' has finally occurred after the rule's implementation starting 11th of April.

MBCGame's Ruby typed out 'ww' in the game against Hoejja in the 2009 MSL Survivor Tournament Season 1 Group 2 Game 2 on the 16th, with resulted in a warning and having the match being recorded as a 'forfeit loss'. (T/L note: Not a disqualification)

Ruby played an intense game with Hoejja, but made a mistake by typing 'ww' when he was going to admit his defeat. Players up til now has often used 'ใ…ˆใ…ˆ' ( Korean keyboard's 'ww' ) to express their acceptance of defeat, and this incident seems to have occurred due to their habit of typing in the said manner. There were not many players who were concerned about the rule after the rule was implemented.

After the 'zizi yO incident', only the 'gg' message was accepted as a sign of good manner, in which the rule was present in the Winner's League, and then implemented into all leagues after the start of Proleague's Round 4.

According to the rules, they only accept 'gg' or 'GG' as a message of admitting defeat, and 'no other messages other than 'gg', 'GG' and 'ppp' can be typed, and failure to comply (typing ใ…Žใ…Ž, ใ…ˆใ…ˆ, zizi, etc) will result in the game being recorded as a 'forfeit loss', and the player will receive warnings. This rule was implemented after a meeting with all the progaming teams' executives.

This rule will not only be implemented into the Proleague, but OSL and MSL, as well as all other official matches. The losing player must clearly state 'gg' or 'GG' as a clear indication of his acceptance of defeat.

This 'forfeit loss' will not be counted towards the map's official records as it will not be considered as a 'properly ended game'. However, it will be recorded into the player's overall records. Also, a second warning will result in a meeting with the disciplinary committee as well as disciplinary action.

Source: Fomos.kr

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MBC๊ฒŒ์ž„ ๋ฏผ์ฐฌ๊ธฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ•๋ฏผ์ „ gg์„ ์–ธ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ๋ชฐ์ˆ˜ํŒจ(๋ณด๊ฐ•)
2009๋…„ 04์›” 16์ผ 18์‹œ 44๋ถ„

[ํฌ๋ชจ์Šค=๊น€๊ฒฝํ˜„ ๊ธฐ์ž]์ฃผ์˜ ์ง•๊ณ„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ•๋ฏผ์ „์€ ๋ชฐ์ˆ˜ํŒจ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋ก

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4์›” 11์ผ ์ดํ›„ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ ์‹ ์„ค๋œ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ๊ทœ์ •์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ก€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ๋‹ค.

16์ผ 2009 MSL ์„œ๋ฐ”์ด๋ฒ„ ํ† ๋„ˆ๋จผํŠธ ์‹œ์ฆŒ1 2์กฐ 2๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ ๋น„์ž”ํ‹ฐ์›€3์—์„œ MBC๊ฒŒ์ž„์˜ ๋ฏผ์ฐฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํŒจ๋ฐฐ์‹œ์ธ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ 'ww'๋กœ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์— ์ฃผ์˜ ์ง•๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ์ด ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ชฐ์ˆ˜ํŒจ๋กœ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‹ค.

๋ฏผ์ฐฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ•๋ฏผ๊ณผ ์น˜์—ดํ•œ ํ˜ˆ์ „์„ ํŽผ์ณค์ง€๋งŒ ํŒจ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ์„ ์–ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ 'ww'๋ฅผ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฒ”ํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์˜ ๊ทธ ๋™์•ˆ 'ใ…ˆใ…ˆ'๋ผ๋Š” ํŒจ๋ฐฐ ์‹œ์ธ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์Šต๊ด€์ด ๋‚จ์•„ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ง„๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด ๊ทœ์ •์ด ์‹ ์„ค๋œ ์ดํ›„ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ์ง•๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฑฑ์ •์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์ด ์ ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.

์ผ๋ช… '์†์ฐฌ์›… ์„ ์ง€์ง€' ์‚ฌ๊ฑด๊ณผ ๋งค๋„ˆ์— ์–ด๊ธ‹๋‚˜๋Š” gg๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€ ๋“ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์‹ ์„ค๋œ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ๊ทœ์ •์€ ์ง€๋‚œ ์œ„๋„ˆ์Šค ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ์—์„œ ๊ณ„๋„ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ํ”„๋กœ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ 4๋ผ์šด๋“œ ๊ฐœ๋ง‰ ์ดํ›„ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณต์‹ ๋Œ€ํšŒ์—์„œ ์ •์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ๊ทœ์ •์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด โ€œ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋Š” ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ฐฝ์— โ€˜gg, โ€˜GGโ€™๋ฅผ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ์ธ์ •โ€ํ•˜๊ณ  โ€œ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ๋ฐ โ€˜pppโ€™ ์ด์™ธ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ž๋ฅผ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ฐฝ์— ์ž…๋ ฅ ์‹œ ๋ชฐ์ˆ˜ํŒจ์™€ ์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์–ด์ง(์˜ˆ : ใ…Žใ…Ž, ใ…ˆใ…ˆ, zizi ๋“ฑ)โ€ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ช…์‹œ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐ ํ”„๋กœ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋‹จ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด๊ตญ์ด ๋ชจ์ธ '์‚ฌ๋ฌด๊ตญ ํšŒ์˜'๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹ ์„ค๋œ ๊ทœ์ •์ด๋‹ค.

์ด ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ ๊ทœ์ •์€ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์Šคํƒ€๋ฆฌ๊ทธ, MSL ๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณต์‹๋Œ€ํšŒ์— ์ ์šฉ๋œ๋‹ค. ํŒจ๋ฐฐํ•˜๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ฐจ๋ถ„ํžˆ gg ํ˜น์€ GG ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐํฌ๊ธฐ์˜์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฐํ˜€์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค.

ํ•œํŽธ, ๊ทœ์ •์ƒ ๋ชฐ์ˆ˜ํŒจ๋กœ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋œ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ •์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ข…๋ฃŒ๋œ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋งต ์ „์ ์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์„ ์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ ํ†ต์‚ฐ ์Šน์ˆ˜์™€ ๊ณต์‹์ „ ์ „์ ์—๋Š” ํฌํ•จ๋œ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ, ์ฃผ์˜ 2ํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๊ณ  ์ง•๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ๋˜์–ด ์ƒ๋ฒŒ์œ„์›ํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ฆฐ๋‹ค.

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On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:
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On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?

ProGamers should do something about this


Search the forums.

In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'.

Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first.

After that, these rules were implemented.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63eng8DWzpk

Skip to around 20:20.
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konadora *
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Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 11:32:52
April 16 2009 11:32 GMT
#2
You know what I think?

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Screw KeSPA.
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ssystem
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United Kingdom337 Posts
April 16 2009 11:35 GMT
#3
Fuck KeSPA. Why do we even need them?
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April 16 2009 11:36 GMT
#5
all I can say is sex sex pussy hair
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Ilikestarcraft
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Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 16 2009 11:41 GMT
#6
seriously bullshit just bullshit

iirc ruby typed ww and than typed gg after cmon what more do you want

every single korean types ใ…ˆใ…ˆ when they play god
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 11:44:37
April 16 2009 11:43 GMT
#7
progamers seriously need a union to back them up not stupid corporations.
kespa should realise without players, they have no industry whatsoever. thus the progamers should form a union to put up their demands, in fair nature of course.
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April 16 2009 11:44 GMT
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they need to get over themselves :<
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Singapore66366 Posts
April 16 2009 11:45 GMT
#9
'The Progamer's Rights Union'
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April 16 2009 11:48 GMT
#10
On April 16 2009 20:45 konadora wrote:
'The Progamer's Rights Union'


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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 16 2009 11:53 GMT
#11
Doesn't 'ww' happen when Koreans forget to switch to english signs?

So, it's basically an accidental mistake to type 'ww' (unlike 'zizi yo')?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 16 2009 12:01 GMT
#12
What a bullshit seriously? I think its good that you may not write gg/ww/... when you win, but you should be allowed to write what you want when you lose. (Note: "what you want" aka gg, GG, ww, ziziyO" etc.)

This is just stupid, lol.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
April 16 2009 12:06 GMT
#13
Wow kespa are you really THAT dickish?
RIP eSTRO :(
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
April 16 2009 12:07 GMT
#14
Instead of focusing on issues that actually require attention, KeSPA occupies itself with pointless BS like this? Djzs christ, it's a miracle Korean e-sports actually survived for so long with such a lame governing body.
่ง€้Žๆ–ฏ็Ÿฅไป็Ÿฃ.
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April 16 2009 12:07 GMT
#15
Wow these rules are ridicilous. Kespa is so fucking stupid.
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April 16 2009 12:08 GMT
#16
On April 16 2009 20:53 niteReloaded wrote:
Doesn't 'ww' happen when Koreans forget to switch to english signs?

So, it's basically an accidental mistake to type 'ww' (unlike 'zizi yo')?

'ww' switched to Korean keystroke is 'ใ…ˆใ…ˆ', which is, according to the stupid rule, not accepted.
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Bulgaria2332 Posts
April 16 2009 12:08 GMT
#17
What is this zizi yo accident?

ProGamers should do something about this
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 16 2009 12:11 GMT
#18
KeSPA is being so retardetly strict in matters that don't require it.

It's pure bullshit if you ask me.
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Netherlands476 Posts
April 16 2009 12:11 GMT
#19
Supporting the fuck KeSPA motion.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
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Canada926 Posts
April 16 2009 12:12 GMT
#20
zizi yo is kinda gay, but ww has been a common way of admitting defeat for years... Wtf is kespa doing.. where was the vote for this rule.. i demand recourse!
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