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Ruby's game against Hoejja to be considered a 'forfeit loss' after 'gg' incident
Ruby received a warning, and game to be recorded as a 'forfeit loss'
An incident that goes against the rule of 'typing out' has finally occurred after the rule's implementation starting 11th of April.
MBCGame's Ruby typed out 'ww' in the game against Hoejja in the 2009 MSL Survivor Tournament Season 1 Group 2 Game 2 on the 16th, with resulted in a warning and having the match being recorded as a 'forfeit loss'. (T/L note: Not a disqualification)
Ruby played an intense game with Hoejja, but made a mistake by typing 'ww' when he was going to admit his defeat. Players up til now has often used 'ㅈㅈ' ( Korean keyboard's 'ww' ) to express their acceptance of defeat, and this incident seems to have occurred due to their habit of typing in the said manner. There were not many players who were concerned about the rule after the rule was implemented.
After the 'zizi yO incident', only the 'gg' message was accepted as a sign of good manner, in which the rule was present in the Winner's League, and then implemented into all leagues after the start of Proleague's Round 4.
According to the rules, they only accept 'gg' or 'GG' as a message of admitting defeat, and 'no other messages other than 'gg', 'GG' and 'ppp' can be typed, and failure to comply (typing ㅎㅎ, ㅈㅈ, zizi, etc) will result in the game being recorded as a 'forfeit loss', and the player will receive warnings. This rule was implemented after a meeting with all the progaming teams' executives.
This rule will not only be implemented into the Proleague, but OSL and MSL, as well as all other official matches. The losing player must clearly state 'gg' or 'GG' as a clear indication of his acceptance of defeat.
This 'forfeit loss' will not be counted towards the map's official records as it will not be considered as a 'properly ended game'. However, it will be recorded into the player's overall records. Also, a second warning will result in a meeting with the disciplinary committee as well as disciplinary action.
Source: Fomos.kr
+ Show Spoiler [Original Korean Article] +MBC게임 민찬기, 고강민전 gg선언 실수로 몰수패(보강) 2009년 04월 16일 18시 44분 [포모스=김경현 기자]주의 징계 받고, 고강민전은 몰수패로 기록 4월 11일 이후 본격 신설된 경기포기의사 규정이 처음으로 적용되는 사례가 발생했다. 16일 2009 MSL 서바이버 토너먼트 시즌1 2조 2경기 비잔티움3에서 MBC게임의 민찬기는 패배시인메시지를 'ww'로 입력하는 바람에 주의 징계를 받았고, 이 경기는 몰수패로 처리가 됐다. 민찬기는 고강민과 치열한 혈전을 펼쳤지만 패배를 선언하는 과정에서 'ww'를 입력하는 실수를 범했다. 이는 선수들의 그 동안 'ㅈㅈ'라는 패배 시인 메시지를 자주 사용했고, 이 같은 습관이 남아 발생한 것으로 보여진다. 실제로 이 규정이 신설된 이후 실수로 인한 징계에 대한 걱정을 하는 선수들이 적지 않았다. 일명 '손찬웅 선지지' 사건과 매너에 어긋나는 gg메시지 등으로 인해 신설된 경기포기의사 규정은 지난 위너스 리그에서 계도 기간을 갖고 프로리그 4라운드 개막 이후 모든 공식 대회에서 정식으로 적용되고 있다. 경기포기의사 규정에 따르면 “경기포기의사 표시는 채팅창에 ‘gg, ‘GG’를 입력하는 것만 인정”하고 “경기포기의사 및 ‘ppp’ 이외의 문자를 채팅창에 입력 시 몰수패와 주의가 주어짐(예 : ㅎㅎ, ㅈㅈ, zizi 등)” 이라고 명시되어 있다. 이는 각 프로게임단의 사무국이 모인 '사무국 회의'를 통해 신설된 규정이다. 이 경기포기의사 규정은 프로리그 뿐만 아니라 스타리그, MSL 등 모든 공식대회에 적용된다. 패배하는 선수는 차분히 gg 혹은 GG 메시지를 남겨 경기포기의사를 분명히 밝혀야 한다. 한편, 규정상 몰수패로 처리된 경기는 정상적으로 종료된 경기로 처리되지 않기 때문에 공식적인 맵 전적에 포함되지 않는다. 하지만 선수의 개인 통산 승수와 공식전 전적에는 포함된다. 또한, 주의 2회를 받을 경우에는 경고 징계를 받게되어 상벌위원회가 열린다. jupiter@fomos.co.kr 모바일로 보는 스타크래프트 1253+NATE/ⓝ/ez-i Enjoy e-Sports & http://www.fomos.kr 무단 전재 및 재배포 금지
For people who do not know how to use the 'search' function:
On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this Search the forums. In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'. Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first. After that, these rules were implemented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63eng8DWzpk
Skip to around 20:20.
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Fuck KeSPA. Why do we even need them?
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power trippers
rebel league imo
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all I can say is sex sex pussy hair
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seriously bullshit just bullshit
iirc ruby typed ww and than typed gg after cmon what more do you want
every single korean types ㅈㅈ when they play god
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progamers seriously need a union to back them up not stupid corporations.
kespa should realise without players, they have no industry whatsoever. thus the progamers should form a union to put up their demands, in fair nature of course.
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they need to get over themselves :<
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konadora
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'The Progamer's Rights Union'
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On April 16 2009 20:45 konadora wrote:
'The Progamer's Rights Union'
KPGA :D
(Korean Pro Gamers Association)
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Doesn't 'ww' happen when Koreans forget to switch to english signs?
So, it's basically an accidental mistake to type 'ww' (unlike 'zizi yo')?
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What a bullshit seriously? I think its good that you may not write gg/ww/... when you win, but you should be allowed to write what you want when you lose. (Note: "what you want" aka gg, GG, ww, ziziyO" etc.)
This is just stupid, lol.
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Wow kespa are you really THAT dickish?
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Instead of focusing on issues that actually require attention, KeSPA occupies itself with pointless BS like this? Djzs christ, it's a miracle Korean e-sports actually survived for so long with such a lame governing body.
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Wow these rules are ridicilous. Kespa is so fucking stupid.
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On April 16 2009 20:53 niteReloaded wrote:
Doesn't 'ww' happen when Koreans forget to switch to english signs?
So, it's basically an accidental mistake to type 'ww' (unlike 'zizi yo')?
'ww' switched to Korean keystroke is 'ㅈㅈ', which is, according to the stupid rule, not accepted.
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What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this
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KeSPA is being so retardetly strict in matters that don't require it.
It's pure bullshit if you ask me.
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Supporting the fuck KeSPA motion.
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zizi yo is kinda gay, but ww has been a common way of admitting defeat for years... Wtf is kespa doing.. where was the vote for this rule.. i demand recourse!
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On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this
Search the forums.
In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'.
Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first.
After that, these rules were implemented.
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poor idra...g doesn't work any more :D
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On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this Search the forums. In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'. Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first. After that, these rules were implemented.
Wait, KeSPA plans to adress the issue of people prematurely GGing by reducing the number of ways a GG can be said?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
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CHILD LABOR ABUSE IN KOREA NEWS AT 11
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On April 16 2009 21:28 bubblegumbo wrote:
CHILD LABOR ABUSE IN KOREA NEWS AT 11
I fail to see why this is relevant.
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Man, it sucks that KeSPA is such a terrible organization.
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Well, on the first view, it's kinda stupid. On the other hand you have to fix a limit. and it's very rational to fix it at "gg/GG".
When you don't fix a limit you could also type out with stuff like "bg" or "sex sex pussy hair" or anything else.
Or you need to have a committee which discuss borderline cases. (which is also stupid - which means, it's really the easiest to fix it at "gg")
Also the punishment wasn'r really that bad.
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On April 16 2009 21:41 Keniji wrote:
Well, on the first view, it's kinda stupid. On the other hand you have to fix a limit. and it's very rational to fix it at "gg/GG".
When you don't fix a limit you could also type out with stuff like "bg" or "sex sex pussy hair" or anything else.
Or you need to have a committee which discuss borderline cases. (which is also stupid - which means, it's really the easiest to fix it at "gg")
Also the punishment wasn'r really that bad.
Are progamers really that dumb enough to type 'sex sex pussy hair' when the Internets are no longer hiding their identity, and when they are playing live in front of the nation? They too will be rational and know their own limits, and the furthest they have gone to is leaving without typing anything. Think about it. What's so bad about typing 'ㅈㅈ' and 'gg' when everyone knows it means the same thing, and is nothing rude?
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On April 16 2009 20:43 GTR wrote:
progamers seriously need a union to back them up not stupid corporations.
kespa should realise without players, they have no industry whatsoever. thus the progamers should form a union to put up their demands, in fair nature of course.
Completely agree.
"Also, a second warning will result in a meeting with the disciplinary committee as well as disciplinary action."
Pretty obvious KeSPA is tripping out for power. This seem really.. desperate.. not sure what this incident and the STX coach incident coming so close together might say. Anyone got any inside dirt on what people and/or players think of KeSPA in korea? ^^
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On April 16 2009 21:53 bias- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 20:43 GTR wrote:
progamers seriously need a union to back them up not stupid corporations.
kespa should realise without players, they have no industry whatsoever. thus the progamers should form a union to put up their demands, in fair nature of course. Completely agree. "Also, a second warning will result in a meeting with the disciplinary committee as well as disciplinary action." Pretty obvious KeSPA is tripping out for power. This seem really.. desperate.. not sure what this incident and the STX coach incident coming so close together might say. Anyone got any inside dirt on what people and/or players think of KeSPA in korea? ^^
I remember reading somewhere that players couldn't give a shit during the Winner's League lol
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I'll check if there's another article about him being forced to have a 'forfeit loss'. Maybe this is just the beginning, and the entire Progaming scene is going to mass protest through typing 'zizi yO'
nope o_O
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lol trippin whats wrong wit zizi yo and ww
ok maybe some ppl aruge about zizi yo
but i think ww is ok (in korean )
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I can understand them limiting it to a few options. What I don't get why they don't allow the most common ones, including ww.
Also, wouldn't a warning be enough? Seriously - he typed ww - followed by gg. Just a mistake - no one got hurt. Even from an admins perspective this is just a bit to severe.
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konadora
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God, people. Use the search function.
On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this Search the forums. In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'. Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first. After that, these rules were implemented.
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On April 16 2009 22:51 Hyperionnn wrote:Fixed
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Meh it is not that bad, I get why they would have such a rule but enforcing it so strictly seems unnecessary.
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are the korean fans protesting at all? Surely KESPA will give in if there's enough pressure
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OMG I just watched that zizi yo again, I'm so embarrassed for backho god FACEPALM
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It was just an accident, unlike the zizi yo accident. Kespa should reconsider their actions against Ruby.
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I'm not complaining about whatever punishment they are giving out. I'm complaining over the logic of this rule.
On April 16 2009 21:19 BWdero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this Search the forums. In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'. Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first. After that, these rules were implemented. Wait, KeSPA plans to adress the issue of people prematurely GGing by reducing the number of ways a GG can be said? That makes no sense whatsoever.
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I just cant wait for this to come up in OSL/MSL finals, have it 2-2 going into the final game and...
<Opponent losing badly>
Opponent: gg
Winner: ww
FORFEIT LOSS
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Sweden33719 Posts
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What?
.. So he meant to say GG, thereby giving up, but accidently wrote ww (same fucking thing)? And they are punishing him with a forfeit loss instead of a loss?
I don't get it? Pretty much any interpretation of it is retarded tho, who gives a flying fuck if he says good game, gg or zizi.
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On April 16 2009 23:40 konadora wrote:I'm not complaining about whatever punishment they are giving out. I'm complaining over the logic of this rule. Show nested quote +On April 16 2009 21:19 BWdero wrote:On April 16 2009 21:13 miseiler wrote:On April 16 2009 21:08 Mortician wrote:
What is this zizi yo accident?
ProGamers should do something about this Search the forums. In an infamous game between BackHo and Firefist, BackHo was absolutely obliterating Firefist. And then he typed 'zizi yO'. Refs asked Firefist if he wanted a rematch, but he graciously gave the game to BackHo despite BackHo typing out first. After that, these rules were implemented. Wait, KeSPA plans to adress the issue of people prematurely GGing by reducing the number of ways a GG can be said? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Seriously, if KeSPA wants to discourage premature GGing a freaking 'If you prematurely GG you will suffer a forfeit loss' rule would make way more sense then this bullshit.
I seriously don't understand what the hell KeSPA is doing.
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WTF they all mean the same thing in the end. Pointless rule is pointless.
I can see it now, the OSL Grand Finals, Player x is winning in an epic Game 5 clash. Player Y types out after losing the last epic battle and player x responds with a "ww/zizi/etc." Player x instantly forfeit loses, robbing him of his OSL 1st Place while giving Player Y a win that wasn't deserved. ITS PERFECT YEAH!
EDIT: DAMN I was beaten to the punch by fusionsdf. 
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This is really stupid. Why do they even bother with this? Is it because they're afraid people will write disrespectful stuff? What about the winning player dancing around the losing player to ridicule him? And the winning player drawing a pylon shaped heart in the center of the map? :p
How dumb.
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new strat: lose the game, then when most people would normally tap out, request a pause with "ppp". hope your opponent responds "ww" and thus forfeits the game.
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On April 17 2009 00:49 Apex wrote:WTF they all mean the same thing in the end. Pointless rule is pointless. I can see it now, the OSL Grand Finals, Player x is winning in an epic Game 5 clash. Player Y types out after losing the last epic battle and player x responds with a "ww/zizi/etc." Player x instantly forfeit loses, robbing him of his OSL 1st Place while giving Player Y a win that wasn't deserved. ITS PERFECT YEAH! EDIT: DAMN I was beaten to the punch by fusionsdf.
Well thats why you don't reply back to opponents "gg". Why would you? he typed and most likely already gone that game and camera is not showing game anymore. So for winner I see no point typing "gg" and losing game if typing it wrong.
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On April 17 2009 01:04 Polemarch wrote:
new strat: lose the game, then when most people would normally tap out, request a pause with "ppp". hope your opponent responds "ww" and thus forfeits the game.
this. my god, kespa is fucking retarded.
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On April 17 2009 00:56 Hammy wrote:
This is really stupid. Why do they even bother with this? Is it because they're afraid people will write disrespectful stuff? What about the winning player dancing around the losing player to ridicule him? And the winning player drawing a pylon shaped heart in the center of the map? :p
How dumb.
dancing is not allowed anymore.
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On April 17 2009 01:27 ramen247 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 00:56 Hammy wrote:
This is really stupid. Why do they even bother with this? Is it because they're afraid people will write disrespectful stuff? What about the winning player dancing around the losing player to ridicule him? And the winning player drawing a pylon shaped heart in the center of the map? :p
How dumb. dancing is not allowed anymore.
Yeah, KeSPA is slowly poisoning and constricting the growth of e-sports.
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On April 17 2009 01:27 ramen247 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 00:56 Hammy wrote:
This is really stupid. Why do they even bother with this? Is it because they're afraid people will write disrespectful stuff? What about the winning player dancing around the losing player to ridicule him? And the winning player drawing a pylon shaped heart in the center of the map? :p
How dumb. dancing is not allowed anymore.
Savior is too good for rules, he'll dance in two days.
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This all seems like a massive overreaction upon Kespa's part to me. I feel sorry for Chanki having to deal with this when it's such a trivial matter. As for the lack of dancing - yes, sadly the new rules have toned ceremonies down to nothing more than the odd gesture and usually it's only a bow. It's a real shame because it's taken the vibrancy out of photographing moments like that for me.
All other esports I've attended still allow ceremonies/opening ceremonies and other entertainment. Dungeon and Fighter has toned itself down slightly, but the players still do a lot of funny things like dress up in costumes (heck 4th league had a whole team dressed as women!) do dances and use props. It's a million times more interesting to shoot than a player bowing -_-
It's also a million times more entertaining to watch live than a player bowing - yes it's nice to see sportsmanship and create a nice atmosphere in gaming events, but the rivalry, the competition and the tension that ceremonies perfectly illustrated were also a big part of the fun and diversity of the scene here in Korea.
It's only been a year, but at some events I do feel myself thinking - I miss the old days.
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my endgame comment just offically became zizi y0
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in 2010 all progamers have to play in tie and suit
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
to those who say
loser: gg
winner: ww -> forfeit lost
no! the rule only applies to the guy typing out
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100% agree with KeSPA, I hate it and when my opponent writes GG or gg man instead of pure,simple and manner GG.Damm bm
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I am happy that KeSPA does something to force players to follow rules. I was shock how they dealt Firefist vs Backho issue. Mainly KeSPA should do their decisions alone and not talking to players when they make decisions. Why? Players only option is to be mannered usually (aka accept loss even if they would had chance to win). Now blame goes to KeSPA not to players. So when there is tricky situation, you can't blame on players anymore.
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This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen...
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kespa hates StarCraft. Spectator sports require entertainment elements. And Itachii and Too_MuchZerg, wth are you talking about? You agree with kespa? Forfeit loss because you didn't type gg?
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On April 17 2009 03:09 Ancestral wrote:
kespa hates StarCraft. Spectator sports require entertainment elements. And Itachii and Too_MuchZerg, wth are you talking about? You agree with kespa? Forfeit loss because you didn't type gg?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
of course I don't~
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Since this ruling has no effect on the outcome of RuBy-HoeJJa, it really only makes sense as a power play from KeSPA.
What irks me about this rule is that, though it was clearly inspired by the "zizi yo incident", it does nothing to prevent similar incidents in the future - it's just as possible (easier, even) for a winning player to accidentally type "gg" as it is for him to type "zizi yo". Given this, the entire rule seems like complete garbage.
What KeSPA needed was a protocol for handling situations in which one player accidentally types out (they still don't have one), not a rule about how that player should type out. What the fuck.
Screw KeSPA.
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This is idiotic. Good manners is not something to be enforced by an official rule. Manners are nice, but not required in any circumstance. Kespa is really overstepping their boundaries in my opinion.
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On April 17 2009 02:11 freelander wrote:
in 2010 all progamers have to play in tie and suit
They must also wear a monocle and top hat.
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On April 17 2009 03:09 Ancestral wrote:
kespa hates StarCraft. Spectator sports require entertainment elements. And Itachii and Too_MuchZerg, wth are you talking about? You agree with kespa? Forfeit loss because you didn't type gg?
I'd say that players had plenty of time to practice how they type it. KeSPA seems to be fair not giving disqualification right away, only forfeit and warning. It wasn't that bad considering he can still play next matches.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86291
On January 19 2009 15:21 XYoonZ wrote:
There was no translation for the whole document so I went ahead and translated it (the best i could)
- Entry Method
: Within 1 min of a match ending, inform the ref by document/paper.
- Setting Time: Standard (After greeting the audience and entering the booth, 5 mins)
- Always greet the audience before every set.
- Once your entry is announced, you must stay in the designated area (team's table and team's resting room)
- After sitting in the booth, you can still move around but is included in the 5 min setting time.
- After reentering the booth after the match, equipment is rechecked.
- Strategies could be discussed in any area.
- When surrendering in a match, only "gg' and "GG" will be legal/accepted
When not followed, this will result in an automatic disqualification and warning
*But, this will not be used in Round 3.
*These rules will be enforced at the start of Round 4 (04-11-2009)
e: When you are losing and ready to type 'gg', you can take few extra seconds to make sure you typed it correctly. Not like some people do it, type quickly and insta quit game without checking what you are typing.
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e: When you are losing and ready to type 'gg', you can take few extra seconds to make sure you typed it correctly. Not like some people do it, type quickly and insta quit game without checking what you are typing.
Umm... is it really that important that you write exactly "gg"? I don't think so :s And I'm pretty sure that's the whole issue here.
Someone above said they "had to draw the line somewhere". Well why not just do that the logical way: sanction behavior that is deemed offensive or humiliating. And going from there, they could just use some common sense.
Is typing "ww" before leaving offensive? No
Is typing insults offensive? Yes
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Shit is so fucking dumb. It's like the refs in the NBA that call technical fouls on players that haven't done shit just because the refs want some air time.
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Kespa clearly has too much time on their hands.
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On April 17 2009 03:44 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 02:11 freelander wrote:
in 2010 all progamers have to play in tie and suit They must also wear a monocle and top hat.
This would actually make pro StarCraft more awesome.
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All progamers should protest by typing out " FUCKING CHEESY NOOB" instead.
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On April 17 2009 03:44 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 02:11 freelander wrote:
in 2010 all progamers have to play in tie and suit They must also wear a monocle and top hat.
Quite rly.
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Kespa msut be made up of a bunch of retards. this is ridiculous
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Hi we're kespa, and we have to make up new rules to seem like we are actually important.
but really we're fucking useless.
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On April 17 2009 04:19 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 03:09 Ancestral wrote:
kespa hates StarCraft. Spectator sports require entertainment elements. And Itachii and Too_MuchZerg, wth are you talking about? You agree with kespa? Forfeit loss because you didn't type gg? I'd say that players had plenty of time to practice how they type it. KeSPA seems to be fair not giving disqualification right away, only forfeit and warning. It wasn't that bad considering he can still play next matches. It's not necessarily that Ruby got unjustly punished: it really wasn't a punishment. The problem is that it shouldn't even be an issue.
Sure, the guy who broke into my house was kind not to take anything, but it would be better if he didn't break into my house in the first place.
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how does a forfeit loss differ from a loss? he still lost...... its not like it matters if statistically its not forfeit loss rather than loss @_@
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This is a lame rule, I'm not sure about other peoples keyboards but I have to convert mine to english to when I play sc the game can respond to the hotkeys then convert back to type in korean. If thats the case with the progamers, it would be difficult to switch back and forth and having to realize which language you're typing in.
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Its not that big of a deal to me. Its a dumb rule, but many rules are. The best way I think for them to do this is to be lenient on obviously mannered stuff- ww-, but have the rule in place in case somebody ends with "FUCKING CHEESING NOOB" or such.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 17 2009 07:54 keit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 03:44 jello_biafra wrote:On April 17 2009 02:11 freelander wrote:
in 2010 all progamers have to play in tie and suit They must also wear a monocle and top hat. Quite rly.
That's possibly one of the funniest things I've ever seen someone do with one of my photos. Especially because I'm British - ILU <3 Funny thing is - I don't even remember taking that photo. I have (snow)Bisu-blindness.
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i hope the korean fans are against this decision too and put enough pressure on kespa to lighten up a bit
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i actually dont mind zizi yO. its funny.
its like telling  firebathero to stop doing his thing after winning games against savior.
its not right.
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Wow, this is a lame rule. KeSPA should use feedback from coaches and players more often.
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BackHo wasn't BMing he thought FireFist gg'd so BackHo replied "zizi yO" which really isn't BM at all, but firefist didn't gg a goon dying sound made backho think firefist gg'd
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I would still like players to type "hi" when their scouting probes meet up
Damn you Kespa.
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Idra would NEVER win a game according to these rules then hahah.
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Soon they will disqualify players for saying ww AFTER their opponents say gg. It's only a matter of time before that happens
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On May 06 2009 04:57 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote:
BackHo wasn't BMing he thought FireFist gg'd so BackHo replied "zizi yO" which really isn't BM at all, but firefist didn't gg a goon dying sound made backho think firefist gg'd
Backho zizi yO'd by accident. Poor guy keeps failing miserably 
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sometime this year I expect to see one or more of these topics:
[Spoilers] Coaches and KeSPA
[Spoilers] Players and KeSPA
[Spoilers] Teamliquid.net and KeSPA
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On May 06 2009 08:11 Perguvious wrote:
sometime this year I expect to see one or more of these topics:
[Spoilers] Coaches and KeSPA
[Spoilers] Players and KeSPA
[Spoilers] Teamliquid.net and KeSPA
[Spoilers] Coaches and KeSPA [x] Done
[Spoilers] Players and KeSPA [x] Done
[Spoilers] Teamliquid.net and KeSPA [ ] Next
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TEamliquid.net and KeSPA? LOL no chance for them we would rape them so bad
On topic this is stupid.. what a way to become a "dictator" instead of an organization that works with armony with teams, coaches and players. its impressive how KeSPA stupidity can increase and increase AND INCREASE.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://fomos.kr/board/issue/1239875071_1.jpg)
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