EPTTL Mafia 3 [Night 5]
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On October 26 2008 01:32 fusionsdf wrote: while the first ten names on the list are solid players, there are a lot of new players likely to go inactive and be replaced so you still have some hope if chuiu is subbing out inactives alot of us are players from the last round as well though | ||
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On October 26 2008 14:21 fusionsdf wrote: I'd feel bad if so many people didnt go afk the last two games at least with this 40 you know the majority will follow it daily or near daily, and keep up with votes etc. I guarantee a lot of the people who signed up would be inactive pretty much right away So true, and since theres no mayor this game, chances of people participating more outside of voting is higher as it isnt just the mayor and his few elite guard per se running the show. Should be a fun game | ||
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On October 26 2008 14:36 Plexa wrote: hey, i wasn't "elite guard" of the mayor  i was an independent townie out to expose the mafia. Towards the middle of the game me and ace finally joined forces. There was room for independents to do their own thing, just had to be willing to put in the hours. Don't get me wrong i do know there were independents, but at the same time, there were aloot of people who's only job was to vote, or await orders. It set the game up to be easier to win, but took out some of the fun as everyone was just going with the mayors decision. That being said, this game should be very interesting without someone who has auto immunity for a bit to lead the charge | ||
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As for me, when i get off work this afternoon i will start my analysis to help the town | ||
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Issue being, how do you prove who's legit. I have an idea which would kinda work possibly. First day of voting, rather than abstain, we pick two inactives and vote. numbers 1-26 vote for suspect 1 numbers 27-50 vote for suspect 2 now we take the numbers on our main list and number our detectives 1-3 based on who appears first on the list (ie they would know their number, no one else would) D1 and D2 checks how many mafia voted on list one, and D3 and possibly a jack checks the role of someone the town nominates to be safe. If that person is a blue or green, D3 says nothing, then D1 and D2 PM their lists to the safe person. This would give the townie or blue a two identical lists, which would show their innocence as detectives, which gives one person with the knowledge of two roles, and a third person who can then later admit his role as well, giving one person control of three detectives. Note: issue relies on person living through first night, and b) if people speak out against you to prevent this from happening, in the case someone speaks out against you saying your a mafia, we lynch the accuser, and if he turns up green or blue we lynch the person he accused. With all this said and done, it means we as a town, have a support per se, medics know one person they can protect, and then they need just prove they are who they are, same with vig's and jacks. Just means we have to keep that one person alive briefly, as the idea is once you have that one support structure, that group gets pulled together, not needing the one dummy head any longer, and you then change leadership to a veteran. I hope it makes sense, and yes i know there are some sketchy bits in there, but just throwing the idea out | ||
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On November 03 2008 11:27 Ace wrote: Bloody I understand EXACTLY what you are saying but the reason I didn't go with any idea like that: suicide bomber. If he dies, I say we go with that plan. My current plan is one in which the Mafia can't safely use their suicide bomber. Really, that role is the only reason we can't take leaps of trust and the fact that fake DTs will check stuff anyway). Fair enough, i see how that does destroy things, I am glad i didn't think of something overall retarded though. Guess we now have to find a way to lure the suicide bomber out then. | ||
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On November 03 2008 11:37 Ace wrote: I've been thinking about it, but can't find anything else. That's actually how I came about with my plan to give mafia a dilemma while still giving our lynchpin a chance to lure out the suicide bomber. Once he is gone, DTs and Jacks have a lot more freedom to act. Yeah, i do see what your saying, I'm currently trying to draw up some ideas to draw out the bomber, and potentially might have something, just have to flush it out a little bit provided i dont hit my own dead end. | ||
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On November 03 2008 12:28 Folca wrote: Ok, just asked Chuiu if this was possible, and its not against the rules, so here it fucking goes Im a detective, now dont stop reading this shit I just pmed chuiu my ability to see of Ace is the mafia Answer : Yes Now, Im not ganna keep this hiding, because Ace is a huge influence in this game, and im not ganna risk getting lynched by next morning to spit out the information Yes Ace could actually help the townies by targetting mafias, but im not ganna risk my death by next morning, so here it goes Now just like Ace said, I'll prove myself by sacraficing myself to see that im the detective If I am detective like I said, Take out Ace Townies, Special Roles, good luck killing the rest of the mafia Can chuiu verify that a detective can use their ability this quickly for the rest of the town, rather than taking your word on it. If he comes back saying its a legit rule, we can do the following. Another rolecheck Folca, then have one jack, and the last detective check the votes of day one on our two seperate votes to find out how many mafia voted for who. Next, last jack, Your job is to rolecheck someone we nominate. This gives two detectives with a day one lynch report, and a rolecheck on someone we vote for as a nomination. He turns green or blue you tell him who you are, and as before no one complains other detectives follow suit. I say only detectives, gives at least one night of planning and 3 people knowing who they are, and can then as a team work together and expand their group from there if possible. Now, to help with this, i propose this We vote to lynch ace as one of our targets, and an inactive as the other one or at this point, Folca depends on what people want. Also, if Folca dies tonight, ace dies tommorrow, if he lives, we lynch folca, if folca is blue we kill ace for via a vig that night. we may lose a detective, but we may also may get a mafia, and regardless we have an idea of how the mafia vote via the list, I'm kinda ranting, so ill try to flush this out a bit better, gimme a few | ||
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If Folca is a detective, we give another target or two to be the "heads" of the townie movement, the medics protect who them deem appropriate, and to get us all, would most likely require a lucky bomber placement, and wouldnt get all the medics | ||
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On November 03 2008 12:48 Ace wrote: That makes no sense. If you have a DT, and 2 "heads" of the town who do you honestly think is going to be killed? The DT. The "heads" can talk all day, but since they are not DTs they don't have 100% credibility on facts even if they are proven innocent. Their job is a head is only to get a large group of blues in contact with eachother, the head should only live 1-2 nights, at most to get people together, preferably a green gets the role as their death is meaningless. Their proved innocence gives them that, Innocence, and someone for people to rally behind. Gives a slight leadership advantage and starts to get a organized movement to fight the mob, Yes, a detective might die for that cause, but it gives a huge advantage still to town if we can get even 2-3 blues in contact with eachother and go from there with the prospect of more | ||
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On November 03 2008 13:24 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: listen to bloodyclover, i have a proposition to split the lists: splitting the lists is the smartest thing to do to help DT's. + Show Spoiler [people who should vote for folca] + 1. imDerek 2. fusionsdf 3. Jimtudor 4. decafchicken 5. Camlito 6. XCetron 7. BloodyC0bbler 8. mikeymoo 9. MTF 10. clazziquai 11. wurm 12. Caller 13. Chezinu 14. nemY 15. xDark.Carnivalx 16. Empyrean 17. fanatacist 18. RtS)Night[Mare 19. araav 20. JeeJee 21. SoleSteeler 22. aZnvaLiaNce 23. ~OpZ~ 24. bumatlarge 25. Mynock 26. iNfuNdiBuLuM + Show Spoiler [people who should vote for ace] + 27. Ace 28. MidnightGladius 29. Bockit 30. Folca 31. Alventenie 32. goldenkrnboi 33. Yogurt 34. Scorch 35. ShadowDrgn 36. ulszz 37. KH1031 38. Amber[LighT] 39. Fishball 40. Falcynn 41. Artanis[Xp] 42. ZBiR 43. Plexa 44. KF91 45. FakeSteve[TPR] 46. Lenwe 47. HeRoS)Pink 48. Mandalor 49. [GiTM]-Ace 50. G.s)NarutO As in terms of this i will vote for folca Everyone please follow this | ||
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On November 03 2008 13:57 Empyrean wrote: If we don't lynch Folca, will he have a chance to use his powers again and report them before he dies? If so, then I wouldn't advise lynching Folca. He'll die anyway, so in death he'll be vindicated. If no mafia target him to make him look suspicious, we'll all lynch him anyway. That's why I don't want to vote Folca. As for who to lynch, I still don't know if we can yet trust Folca (or he could be a mafia roleclaiming DT but Ace is also mafia...this way, Folca gains our trust while the mafia don't lose any killing power, and Folca can direct us to kill someone important later) since he's not dead, so because of this, I wouldn't vote for Ace either. I'll still stay with what few clues we have and vote to lynch decafchicken. I vote to lynch decafchicken. Also, has the town abandoned the Mandalor style plan I suggested earlier? If not, then we should probably coordinate first and second suspects. Also, when will Chuiu compile the vote list? We are all in agreement im pretty sure about having two lists to votecheck on, its more, who should be on those lists, and Ace and Folca seem to be those targets at the moment. if someone comes up with better targets im pretty sure the town is all ears for it. As a note, Folca was right, detectives can use their abilities anytime they want, just once a day. | ||
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In a traditional meal setting, as in a banquet or the like, you would have coffee after finishing the entire meal, as a finisher. Rather than just pin decaf as he fits the chicken = meal, and decaf = coffee Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake More than just one food connection, and as a final meal coffee makes sense, so not really a good lynch guys, lets think on it more You can thank me later decaf :p | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote: Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not. Unless clues start to point towards ace after tonight, but that isnt likely to be easy to spot | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:07 goldenkrnboi wrote: ## I vote for decafchicken based on the clues and the arguments that several people have mentioned. Based on the clues? I destroyed them with facts that relate directly to FOOD INDUSTRY, coffee is a normal thing at the end of a meal, i also listed other names that are linked to a "meal" setting to begin with, ffs, they have been defeated, now new evidence is needed to continue the bandwagon | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:46 goldenkrnboi wrote: well i'm sorry if my internet sucks, i have homework left to do, and you guys are posting as if chuiu was going to move into night in 30 seconds. Sorry I just felt ignored. | ||
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