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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 23:41 GMT
#78
On October 13 2015 21:16 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 13 2015 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like if you coach mafia you are in my opinion supposed to work on what's happening in the game and more importantly what will most likely happen and discuss that and how your students will stay alive. Town is basically reactionary to what has happened, mafia is not. If you don't plan ahead you will just die most of the times.


lol tbh i think it's a mixture of both. scumteams have failed just as much by being too rigid and not able to adapt to those crazy townies as they have at not planning ahead

-cough- Rels team.

But tbh although rayn bitches about having to read the thread, he will probably do it anyway even if he coaches town as I had a dim suspicion he was doing somewhat with me.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 00:03:22
October 14 2015 00:01 GMT
#79
Okay, these are my thoughts on this really dumb coaching debate.

There are two tiers to newbies.
- The first tier are the brand new newbies who are playing Mafia for the first time. For these people, coaches like rsoultin who teach how to look townie are good. I remember rsoultin was my first coach and she did a decent job at keeping the information thrown at me to a good level and focused on town psychology that would make me look good.
- The second tier are the newbies who are coming back and have the basics of looking townie down. These people mostly require advice on how to formulate reads and to push/pursue them as well as needing review on whether or not their case is good as well as learning how to make people listen to them. rayn was a good coach for me because he helped look over my cases and gave me the right prods on making my reads.

AFTER THIS there's not much other advice that coaches can give other than extreme set up speculation or more difficult stuff and other fine tuning in general. At this point the best coach is just experience and playing more games.

To this, I think there should be different coaches to different strengths. As I said, rsoultin was really good in my first game because it was literally my first ever forum Mafia game and if she talked about making reads and having people sheep me and other stuff I would probably be overwhelmed.
After that, people should be paired up with coaches like rayn who is good at making cases and forcing people to follow him.
These are just examples of coaches so idk but the people wanting to coach probably know what their best at coaching like rsoultin and rayn so they can figure themselves out.

There are of course supreme coaches like geript who is like a blanket god coach for the Mafia alignment and no one is better than him so yeah.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 16 2015 11:48 GMT
#117
I guess...

/in

I swear if I roll VT again tho...
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 16 2015 18:03 GMT
#130
/confirm
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 16 2015 20:48 GMT
#143
I worry that when Eversince rolls Mafia, it'll be a bit too easy to know. I just can't see her replicating her town style. o.O
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 16 2015 21:06 GMT
#145
On October 17 2015 06:04 Eversince wrote:
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On October 17 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I worry that when Eversince rolls Mafia, it'll be a bit too easy to know. I just can't see her replicating her town style. o.O


I've rolled mafia in offsite games twice. I was instantly lynched day 1 in the first game, shot by a town vig the second...
I'll just cross my fingers and really hope to not role it.

oh? So I was right in that you played Mafia elsewhere. :3
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 18:22 GMT
#153
Are we waiting on BlazingHand or someone else to confirm?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:15 GMT
#159
ofc I have to prod BlazingHand to start the game lol
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:15 GMT
#160
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:15 GMT
#161
rsoultin should make another game for me to roll Mafia in tbh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:21 GMT
#166
GB can i bus you again?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:25 GMT
#170
On October 18 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What is a bus?

Where you kill your Mafia teammate to get town credit.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:26 GMT
#172
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:26 GMT
#173
I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:28 GMT
#176
On October 18 2015 05:28 Vonthin wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB.


wow your early game strategy is great, i dont see how it will fail

I'm going to bus you D2 so just wait bb.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#179
On October 18 2015 05:29 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:28 Vonthin wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB.


wow your early game strategy is great, i dont see how it will fail

I'm going to bus you D2 so just wait bb.


I love public transportation, can we subway it instead? They are faster.

I will subway you so hard D2 bb.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#180
On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.

Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.

Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls

I am such a shiny town.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:36 GMT
#183
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:39 GMT
#189
On October 18 2015 05:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices


This makes me want to actually lynch you

ilyt. But I seriously want to decide on a meta. I did the rayn meta when rayn was my coach. I've been trying to do the rsoul meta but I'm not good enough and I always get hit or miss. Or I might just do idgaf like Crossfire which was mildly entertaining to do and I actually guessed some of the 3p/Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 17 2015 20:40 GMT
#191
On October 18 2015 05:38 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices


why not just use both styles at the same time and be a super scum hunter

Very true, very true. Unfortunately, I'm still practicing both styles and I want to decide on one to use. It's also how my tone reads interfere with inconsistencies and vice versa in different situations which drives me crazy.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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