• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:09
CET 23:09
KST 07:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship4[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win92025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1637 users

Challenger Season 3 not giving direct Premier Seeds?

Forum Index > SC2 General
139 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33475 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:57:48
October 02 2013 19:57 GMT
#1
According to some competitors, the current season of WCS EU Challenger League will not give direct seeds into Premier.

On October 02 2013 20:57 Starbuck- wrote:
This season you can't qualify from Season 3 challenger to Premier league season 1 - 2014.
If you finish top at challenger, you get better seed for the qualifiers for Premier, so it's like that
Qualify for challenger (or drop from premier ) --- > Play and try to finish first (top 8) --------> another qualifiers only for top players from challenger.
So it's gonna be really hard to come back in Premier once your out...
I hate Blizzard, this makes rly no sense to do something like that ...


On October 02 2013 23:09 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 22:50 umade wrote:
Can someone actually provide a source to 2014 WCS having new qualifiers and that you won't go up to PL through this seasons' CL?


they sent an email to every player in which they explain it and also said that they will announce more changes for wcs 2014 in the near future.


@SaintSnorlax Just that season 3 challenger league won't feed directly into premier league 2014. Everything else seems uncertain

— Patrick Brix Bjerg (@WolvesBunny) October 2, 2013



Dayshi: https://www.facebook.com/sc2dayshi/posts/519242961493824

"For those who wonder why I played Random, don't panic

First of all you know that at the moment I can barely play StarCraft between 18:00 and 23:00 because of Free (french ISP) / Battle.net

Then the last Challenger League doesn't offer a direct spot in Premier League Season 4 (very few people know that, alas)

So don't worry, I'm still Terran :D"

On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.


Facebook Twitter Reddit
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:00:08
October 02 2013 19:59 GMT
#2
I think that's kind of dumb. Hopefully it's just EU
#TheOneTrueDong
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
October 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#3
well, i'm not a fan of the current system, so i hope they do something to change things up..but we'll have to see what happens in the future as to whether this really makes sense
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#4
Well honestly there is no reason this would happen unless they plan on doing some restructuring of the league for 2014 right? Could be a good thing.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
October 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#5
Players who get first of Challenger have a better seed... such a good gift.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
October 02 2013 20:02 GMT
#6
Blizzard killing SC2. You heard it here first folks.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
October 02 2013 20:03 GMT
#7
On October 03 2013 05:02 geokilla wrote:
Blizzard killing SC2. You heard it here first folks.


We've been hearing that all year lol
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
October 02 2013 20:03 GMT
#8
Well, if they were to do something like say all the players competing in regions they don't have residency/citizenship are no longer eligible, this type of warning seems appropriate. The question is, will they pull the trigger?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:08:40
October 02 2013 20:04 GMT
#9
Honestly, while I agree that the WCS system is meh, I would rather Blizzard focus on improving the game itself than not focus on the biggest thing hurting the scene's -- effectively the game's -- longevity.
T P Z sagi
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 02 2013 20:05 GMT
#10
It's not just this Challenger Season that is not feeding into next season's Premier, even this Premier Season will not feed into next season's Premier. I think they will restart everything due to some huge upcoming changes. Possiblities would be a region lock of some sort, which will make it impossible for lots of players currently in Premier to attend next season.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
October 02 2013 20:06 GMT
#11
So whats the point of challenger then?
Dafuq?
Freelancer veteran
cladoliver
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil38 Posts
October 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#12
how the koreans on EU and NA premier will be back to korea?? a giant qualify for first gsl of the year?? or they are screwed?
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:09:18
October 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#13
hopefully good news
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:11:37
October 02 2013 20:09 GMT
#14
On October 03 2013 05:08 cladoliver wrote:
how the koreans on EU and NA premier will be back to korea?? a giant qualify for first gsl of the year?? or they are screwed?


They could also move to EU or NA.

edit: In the original announcement of the WCS, it was explicitely written that blizzard aims to make everything offline next year. So something like a soft region lock shouldn't come with a surprise.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
October 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#15
If they aren't transitioning the Challenger league players to Premier league, there must be some restructuring going on for 2014.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
October 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#16
maybe preparing for big changes (region lock?)
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
October 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#17
This has been talked a million years ago in Korean websites. I posted the article. Few people gave a shit back then.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#18
So basically there's zero reason to care about this season of challenger? I guess this helped influence MVP's decision to forfeit.
Glorious SEA doto
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
October 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#19
On October 03 2013 05:05 JustPassingBy wrote:
It's not just this Challenger Season that is not feeding into next season's Premier, even this Premier Season will not feed into next season's Premier. I think they will restart everything due to some huge upcoming changes. Possiblities would be a region lock of some sort, which will make it impossible for lots of players currently in Premier to attend next season.

Source? If that's true, then there's no point of Challenger league or anything to begin with, aside from getting WCS points for this year's Blizzcon and a couple hundred bucks.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 20:13 GMT
#20
Speculation on rumors about a season taking place next year. I think anyone acting like this is final might be jumping the gun.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 2
SteadfastSC483
IndyStarCraft 231
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 558
White-Ra 252
IndyStarCraft 231
UpATreeSC 151
JuggernautJason70
CosmosSc2 2
StarCraft: Brood War
LaStScan 86
Dota 2
syndereN253
Counter-Strike
Foxcn460
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken22
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu585
Other Games
tarik_tv3616
Grubby2614
Mlord490
FrodaN353
Fuzer 233
Pyrionflax233
KnowMe208
ToD143
C9.Mang0108
Maynarde64
ZombieGrub58
Codebar1
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL183
Other Games
BasetradeTV29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 30
• musti20045 29
• Reevou 2
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile19
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2794
• WagamamaTV574
• Ler80
League of Legends
• TFBlade997
Other Games
• imaqtpie1181
• Scarra540
• Shiphtur117
Upcoming Events
OSC
51m
The PondCast
11h 51m
LAN Event
16h 51m
Replay Cast
1d
OSC
1d 13h
LAN Event
1d 16h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
2 days
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
3 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.