I don't think I've played in more than 3 games here on TL, and if so it was years ago. I have basically no real mafia experience whatsoever, so I hope it isn't an issue.
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I don't think I've played in more than 3 games here on TL, and if so it was years ago. I have basically no real mafia experience whatsoever, so I hope it isn't an issue. | ||
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On September 25 2013 16:27 playerboy345 wrote: Welp guess I fell asleep an hour before the game started T_T Anyways I agree with Blurry, we have to lynch someone day 1 to put some pressure on mafia, otherwise they can just sit this one out doing basically nothing. THIS SO MUCH. Well of course we have to lynch SOMEONE. It's in the rules. I don't think it's actually possible for us to NOT lynch someone. The debate is on lynch policy. Lynching lurkers doesn't really put a ton of pressure on the mafia, but at worst it clears out ineffective townies. Personally, I'm against lynching lurkers except as a last resort. If we seriously cannot think of anything else, then okay. I am very against simply deciding to lynch a lurker day one early in the game. If anything, that takes pressure off the mafia. You didn't really make this clear, what is your position on the anti-lurker policy lynch? | ||
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Playerboy though, I'd like to hear more about this. What makes him seem town to you? I'm not really getting much one way or the other. Also, with you all on Jaytee. Where'd he go? He was clearly here, so why the disappearance? Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads. | ||
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On September 26 2013 16:58 heavenz wrote: onlywounderboy: only oneliners, while I am not against one liners at all, just writing 1 liners lacks much content. He tries to show activness even though he has no content, perhaps he didn't know what to write in the beginning. Now after 24h you should write more than 1 liners. Zaragon: has my strongest town read so far. Blurry is really falling behind expectation, that's weird. You really should post more. lurkers:Jayte, xIvanJ You both have to participate way more. Stormtemplar is to me the most suspicious. He has 3 posts, 2 of which are about the lurker topic, and then the only relevant post While this isn't a scummy post in itself, but it's not useful either. He just joins in on Zaragon's reads, and calls out a lurker. Asks Playerboy on his ideas (probably so he can just join them in again, if they find appeal, and again gives zero reads from himself). Imho scummy. Firstly, I hardly think the "Lurker topic" was irrelevant. It was the discussion starter and what was going on in the thread at the time. I hardly think you can throw that away as, rather undercutting your point about my lack of contribution. Secondly, I've been trying to contribute but I haven't had much in the way of reads previously. At the time I really wasn't feeling anyone as scum, and Zaragon pretty much summed up my views. However, as to your point about me just joining Zaragon on playerboy, no, not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm not really feeling zaragon's read on him. I'm not getting solid town vibes out of him at all. He's contributed rather minimally. (7 of his posts are 1-2 lines with maybe a quote.) Lol you got a good point on Jayte, didn't a scum in the previous newbie mafia game start with a similar line? I have to disagree on your MLuneth "read" though, yes he might not be adding much to the game with that post but there really wasn't much to discuss when he posted it other then your opinion on lynching/not lynching lurkers. Though the question is indeed a bit weird, I mean it wouldn't make any sense if he was NOT scum to ask such a question because that would be an easy blue kill night 1 for mafia, or am I missing something here? Maybe he can clear it up when he gets online, I am quite interested in how he will defend the question. This is his one good post, but it's not really doing much more then throwing around short opinions on jonnylaw's reads. There is that one bit of really weird logic at the end (It's scum because any non-scum asking that question must be a town roleblocker, therefore they wouldn't post it? Kinda shaky and weird.) Also, Jaytee, that post is not making me feel much better about you. We need some content here, not two lines and a big quote. xIvanJ is also afk, which makes me very unhappy, but as I have said many times before, we should only lynch him if we can't get any reads on anyone. | ||
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@heavenz the thing about playerboy was kind of a joke, I said he was inactive and right after he made this big post and I thought it was funny. I wasn't making a serious comment on the quality. I'm posting from a near dead phone in the car so I don't have time for a full rebuttal, but I will write one up if I survive the night. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + I'm very confident he's pro town. He has been actively contributing stuff of value and I've agreed with most of his reads. Starting the bandwagon on Mluneth is a bit suspicious, but Mluneth did give off suspicious vibes and the arguments against him were solid. I'm inclined to write this off as mistaking a poorly played townie for scum. This is especially true because the play of newbie blue players is often easy to mistake for scum, due to their desire to stay under the radar. + Show Spoiler [Bereft] + I'm leaning pro town on bereft, he's posted well and often, my only concern on him is he hasn't really called anyone out. He's been doing a lot of analysis, but he doesn't seem to have found anyone scummy at all. I don't really think that's enough to base any suspicion on though, and it certainly is not enough to taint the fact that he's acted pretty strongly pro-town otherwise + Show Spoiler [Jayte/xIvanJ/Blurry] + Our three afks, nothing much to say about any of them that hasn't been said. + Show Spoiler [playerboy] + His analysis is short and rather cursory, (As I said before, my comment on his first major analysis post was not a serious comment on quality, it was a joking aside about the fact that I had just posted about his total lack of content minutes earlier.) he asks a lot of questions about himself, even when suspicion doesn't really fall on him, which strikes me as odd. He's also trying to cast suspicion onto two of the people I view as most solidly pro town (Berift and Zaragon) while defending me, which is just plain weird. How someone could get a stronger scum read on Zaragon or Berift's well played and active town then on my cruddy posting is beyond me. Overall, I'm leaning scum on him. + Show Spoiler [heavenz] + One of my primary accusers, I feel like he's been overly aggressive toward me, but that itself is not a huge tell. He's been active, but with a LOT of one liners, but he's only really put down analysis on me and maybe onlywonderboy. He hasn't really said much about anyone else. I can see a scum player sensing weakness on my part due to my previously crummy posting and zeroing in on me, making it look like he's actively scumhunting even as he misleads the town. I'd like to hear more of what he thinks about other people. + Show Spoiler [JonnyLaw] + At risk of looking bad again, I agree with Zaragon to some extent. He has been reading rather tense, and he hasn't really put it a lot of work into analyzing people. He's got that one big post, but even there most of his stuff is 1-2 lines. Also, he jumped in late onto the mluneth bandwagon. Still, he has been trying to contribute and he has been reasonably active, so I'd say he's neutral-slight scum + Show Spoiler [Onlywonderboy] + He was inactive for a while, but his recent post was solid and seemed well put together to me. While I obviously disagree with his read on me, and a couple of other reads, it seems like a post that was meant to contribute to the overall health and activity of the town. He did lurk for a while though, so I'll say he's slightly town. + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + I'd say he's slightly pro town. He's been actively contributing and he’s posted some analysis. I get the feel that he’s actively trying to help the town, and his overall posting seems relaxed and reasonably well argued. Still he’s only analyzed some players, so I’d like to hear an overall thoughts style post out of him. + Show Spoiler [Bajablood] + I’m reading him as a townie who hasn’t been playing very well. Obviously the Mluneth thing could have been a towncred move, but I don’t really like the logic that the only person who read the situation properly and defended a guy against a bandwagon is scum. However, he did spend WAY too much time talking about the lurkers, and clogging up the thread is a scumtell. I am however getting more of a misguided townie read then a scum read from him, it’s hard for me to explain but the overall tone of his posts sounds relaxed, and like he’s trying to help, even if he isn’t necessarily pointing himself at the right targets. Let’s see how he does on day 2 before passing any judgement. As for the attacks on me, I do agree that I need to play better and this post is an attempt to do so. Still, I think some of the analysis of my actual posts is off the mark. I especially find it odd that someone criticized my lack of contribution, then when I pointed out my feelings about playerboy he claimed I was trying to distract the discussion. It seems a little contradictory to claim I didn't read enough, then when I do, that I'm just trying to distract the discussion. | ||
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That same argument actually helps you in my book. I think playerboy is scum (That last big post was awful), and I don't think you'd buss a scumbuddy this early. You're also attacking people besides me, which helps support the idea that you're not an opportunistic mafioso. I'm still getting this vibe from heavenz. Also, I don't get the opening bit, of course I claimed berift and Zaragon as pro-town. I was analyzing everyone and pretty much everyone but playerboy thinks they're pro-town, myself included. Would it make you happy if I just started randomly lying about my thoughts to create controversy? Should I just accuse people of being scum to appease you? | ||
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Anyway, I've wasted far too many words talking about this, on to other more useful ventures: Scumhunting! Playerboy has been actively useless. The main two people he's called out have been zaragon and bereft, which is just odd. As I pointed out in my analysis, I'm really weirded out by the fact that he read me as stronger town then zaragon or bereft. As glad as I am to have someone coming to my defense, I just find it doubtful that someone could look at day one from and town perspective and hold that view. I almost wonder if he's trying to make me look guilty by association, or get town cred by defending me. I gotta say, it sounds ideal for him as mafia for him to unsuccessfully defend me, I flip town and he gets cred and Jonnylaw looks like scum for attacking me so much. It's also been six hours and only four people, counting me have posted so I don't have much to say. I wish I had some other reads, but it's late and I need to get to sleep, so no time for obsessive filter reading. Once some of the EU lot post tomorrow I'll try to put something together. As of now, I'm willing to say without a lot of doubt that Playerboy is scum and should be our lynch target tonight. P.S. Jonny, if you frigging tell me that this is more deflection, I want you to know that my next of kin may hold you responsible for causing me to knock my brains out in a fit of helpless frustration. You have been warned. (; | ||
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