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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-19 17:21:09
August 12 2006 16:03 GMT
#1
First of all. Why Zerg guide? Because i see terrans win enought already =[. Why not protoss? because your race sucks. You are outplayed by simple things as drops and base counters. If you want to play Protoss: go ahead. Play protoss and lose, and then come to TL and make a whiney thread about it. Or wait for 1.15 and hope blizzard gives you guys something like 40 mana stroms.

If you want to feel better about your race, you can pm FrozenArbiter and ask him his MSN.

Why Luna? becuase everyone plays luna, and learning luna means learning every boring macro map everyone plays nowadays.


ONTO THE GUIDEEEEEEEEEE:

Yeah, so map is Luna.

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Ugly? Yes. Boring? Maybe. (shh yes)

It all depends on how you play it. The map doesnt allow many strategies go into place. A easy to take natural. No close gas expansion, becomes hard for most newbie zergs to play this map in mid game (and since early game kinda vanishes cause EVERY DAMN T FAST EXPOS).

First of all. 99.99999999% of the T's you will be playing will eaither fast expo, or bunker rush you (especially on PGTour). Or Both WOW HALP.

Hey im right here dont worry.

So you learned how to split 4 drones into 4 diferent mineral patches, your hatching another drone and you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines.

Some random thoughs about your play before you actually start having some action.

- You already sent your starting overlord to the nearest horizontal base and now you are sending your brave scout drone out.
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yeah, that was a screamer


- Your second overlord should be hatching and ready to be rallied to the other horizontal position. If you happen to see a little SCV with a space suit running around and looking for your base, try to guess where it comes from.
Once you locate the terrans base, redirect your second overlord so it goes along the path a terran will take to bunker rush you. This will help you see if marines are coming your way (although your scouting drone should be enought to do so). If you are facing a terran you that bunker rushes all his game just 12 POOL GODAMMIT.

- Please, i mean PLEASE... dont try to do stuff like gasing the terran if you dont know why you are doing it. Terrans tend to build just 2/4 marines, cc and then proceed to expo. Your hatching drone will do nothing but DIE, giving no information in the process. Try to keep it alive. And if you are sure it will die... just pull him back to safety so he harvest more minerals.

Your pool is done? good. hatch ling acording to what the terran is doing. If hes bunker rushing of course you need lings. If you are _sure_ hes fast expoing, just hatch some to chase that nasty scv around + scouting movement in front of the soviets' ramp. Then whore drone.

Get one creep colony to move the nickelodeon gloo around your natural, letting you have proper sunken placement. NOT LIKE THIS -> Click
You dont really need to make eleventy sunkens now. Just wait for the marines to kill the scouting ling and then yes: Sunk fast.


You can do whatever you please, mutalisk or lurk. Both work. Personally i like opening with muta more, and then proceed to tech to lurks. Going straight to lurks is ok, and might give you the oportunity of getting another gas expo inmediately, by putting your first 2 lurks in the ramp that leads to that expo. If you decide to place your third hatch at your main, please use a "smart" spot. FE Terrans got 2 scans (imba) and can scan your tech fairly easy, and counter accordingly. Choices are he will scan your tech anyways, but at least the bastard will have to use some more scans, and hopefully, more time. OMGFFF

Ok so your base is settled, like it always is. But you may say: BUT OMG INTOTHEWOW TERRON JUST COMES WITH HUGE BALL AND EVERYThING KILLSS!!!111oneone.

Yes, im quite aware of the power of the terran "Ball".

All you need to beat that scary first terran try to defeating you is:

- Proper army placement -> a good flank
- Some good speed (OMG APM CONTROVERSY) and timming to send your army, to stop your lings from being roasted and terran pulling back
- Huge balls.

So. Luna has not-buildable terrain in middle and its big wide open. What better place to flank a terran?.

Place your army forming a semi circle around the place the terran army is more likely to go trought. Put a lonely brave (not) ling in that place. When his army comes out put all your hard practice you did during all those chat lobby sesions and 1a2a3a4a5a6a AS FAST AS YOU CAN. Watch your lings swarm into his army like chibi would rush into a 4th grade classroom, your lurkers get in range and BAM. FUCKING BLOODBATH ALL OVER THE TWIGHLIGHT TILE SET. Awesome.

Ok, so you say "BUT ITW, I WENT MUTALISKSSS WHAT DOO I DOO WITH THEM?".

You want your mutalisks to keep the terran in his base as long as you can. You can kill lonely svcs/marines whatever you find. But remember your main purpose is KEEPING THE TERRAN IN BASE. I often find myself crying against my keyboard while watching a rep from the strategy section because a zerg tries to kill stuff _too_ hard and gets all his mutalisks killed. Mutaslisk getting killed = terran going out = expos getting killed = you getting contained. Just simply fly around, move your mutas and tell the terran "stay in, otherwise i kill your stuff and rape your children". And no one wants his children getting raped.

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If you are not fast enought to mutalisk harras while 1sz, 2sh, 3sd, 4so. Just fly your muta to a safe place (ie not the terran base). Macro 1 second and fly them back into ripping terran babies.

Okay, you can stop reading here. JUST KIDDING. Late game random thoughs ahead.


So you ripped the first push apart. You have secured 2 or more expansions with gas on luna and feel happy enought to kill the terran and call him a n00b after. What do we do?

Well... luna doesn leave many tech choices. You can make some guardians only to harrass behind his expo minerals (note: dont do this if the terran has a totally awesome number of vessels)

Without cliffs around the map, they become pretty obsolete unles you have godly awesome control. And this a newbie guide. So just dont go guardians.

Going ultralisks is a good choice. Depending on your gas income, you can hydra/ultra or ultra/ling (this being more common). You can add some defilers to that, or go defilers with lurkers first and then add the ultralisks. All depending on how you are doing in the game. Swarms kicks in faster and lets you survive pushes if terran is not vessel heavy. Ultras kick in a little later (the need their upgrades to be effective) but they kick major ass. Remember, expo macro expo macro expo macro. Get gas, get more ultralisks.


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Something important late game is, keeping your army in constant movement around the map. An idle army is a easy to mass-irradiate army. meaning no defilers, lings popping up from irradiate splash, and your army becoming little and phunny.

Countering, and counter-dropping is a good idea. A 4 overlord drop with 4 or 5 ultralisks, 1 defiler and a nice amount of lings can do some good damage to a main terran base without the proper defence. And if its not a win/lose situation for terran (ie, him being just able to kill you and lift his buildings). He will have to go back buying you time.
Countering bases by ground with little but effective armies is also a good idea of course.
Just remember, scourge vessels (everyone knows mass vessels = autowin), FLANK a lot, move your army. And expo expo expo. thats whats zergs do, turn minimap as green as they can. (heres how your minimap should look like)


Ps: This intends to be just a mini help guide to very newbie zergs, a good zerg can probably write just one website about how to ZvT on Luna.

I was bored and wanted to do something different. If its not for the strategy section, just close it


THE END.

edit: i might add more tomorrow. i added pics :3
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 12 2006 16:20 GMT
#2
nice little guide

i just wanted to make one correction though:
the only totally awesome number of vessels is zero
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
August 12 2006 16:23 GMT
#3
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MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-12 16:49:44
August 12 2006 16:34 GMT
#4
You rock. Great and easy-going, easy to understand writing style and illustrative pictures.

But somebody should make that website.
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
August 12 2006 16:38 GMT
#5
Nice guide, I loved the pictures rofl.
JimBobRay
Profile Joined May 2005
128 Posts
August 12 2006 16:39 GMT
#6
A great starter. Loved the images too.
Has anyone ever tried diplomacy in starcraft?
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
August 12 2006 16:45 GMT
#7
Yeah, I always wonder why people take gas ZvT...
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
August 12 2006 16:49 GMT
#8
that was funny haha
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
August 12 2006 17:28 GMT
#9
that's the sexiest scouting drone i have ever seen.
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
August 12 2006 17:30 GMT
#10
If a T gets a massive amount of vessels you need plague and hydras. Just thought I would add that.
Broom
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 12 2006 18:15 GMT
#11
On August 13 2006 02:28 OverTheUnder wrote:
that's the sexiest scouting drone i have ever seen.


seriously.

I think he could infest the terran CC if he felt like it.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
August 12 2006 19:59 GMT
#12
Funny guide
I'll call Nada.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 12 2006 20:38 GMT
#13
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

<--- my reaction to guide. (Good for newbies too)

*Screams and runs horrified/shellshocked into a dark corner* <-- my reaction to the "scouting drone"
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 12 2006 20:57 GMT
#14
harrr, but why diss toss in the beginning?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
August 12 2006 21:33 GMT
#15
On August 13 2006 01:45 TheosEx wrote:
Yeah, I always wonder why people take gas ZvT...

To make the terran fast expo.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
August 12 2006 22:37 GMT
#16
hmm, imo taking gas ZvT is good when terran does 8 rax 9 depot for bunk rush/pressure into fast acad-> fe
I'd take an 8rax'ers gas with my drone if i see hes not adding a 2nd rax after it
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 12 2006 23:37 GMT
#17
I thought I was reading a post by rekrul :O
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
August 12 2006 23:43 GMT
#18
Isnt faster to throw the overlord to the nearest vertical base? (From 11 to 6)

PS:cool guide
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 13 2006 00:02 GMT
#19
The Terran Ball lol
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
August 13 2006 00:10 GMT
#20
O thx funny, entertaining, and a great guide for zerg players
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