First of all. Why Zerg guide? Because i see terrans win enought already =[. Why not protoss? because your race sucks. You are outplayed by simple things as drops and base counters. If you want to play Protoss: go ahead. Play protoss and lose, and then come to TL and make a whiney thread about it. Or wait for 1.15 and hope blizzard gives you guys something like 40 mana stroms.
If you want to feel better about your race, you can pm FrozenArbiter and ask him his MSN.
Why Luna? becuase everyone plays luna, and learning luna means learning every boring macro map everyone plays nowadays.
It all depends on how you play it. The map doesnt allow many strategies go into place. A easy to take natural. No close gas expansion, becomes hard for most newbie zergs to play this map in mid game (and since early game kinda vanishes cause EVERY DAMN T FAST EXPOS).
First of all. 99.99999999% of the T's you will be playing will eaither fast expo, or bunker rush you (especially on PGTour). Or Both WOW HALP.
Hey im right here dont worry.
So you learned how to split 4 drones into 4 diferent mineral patches, your hatching another drone and you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines.
Some random thoughs about your play before you actually start having some action.
- You already sent your starting overlord to the nearest horizontal base and now you are sending your brave scout drone out. + Show Spoiler +
yeah, that was a screamer
- Your second overlord should be hatching and ready to be rallied to the other horizontal position. If you happen to see a little SCV with a space suit running around and looking for your base, try to guess where it comes from. Once you locate the terrans base, redirect your second overlord so it goes along the path a terran will take to bunker rush you. This will help you see if marines are coming your way (although your scouting drone should be enought to do so). If you are facing a terran you that bunker rushes all his game just 12 POOL GODAMMIT.
- Please, i mean PLEASE... dont try to do stuff like gasing the terran if you dont know why you are doing it. Terrans tend to build just 2/4 marines, cc and then proceed to expo. Your hatching drone will do nothing but DIE, giving no information in the process. Try to keep it alive. And if you are sure it will die... just pull him back to safety so he harvest more minerals.
Your pool is done? good. hatch ling acording to what the terran is doing. If hes bunker rushing of course you need lings. If you are _sure_ hes fast expoing, just hatch some to chase that nasty scv around + scouting movement in front of the soviets' ramp. Then whore drone.
Get one creep colony to move the nickelodeon gloo around your natural, letting you have proper sunken placement. NOT LIKE THIS -> Click You dont really need to make eleventy sunkens now. Just wait for the marines to kill the scouting ling and then yes: Sunk fast.
You can do whatever you please, mutalisk or lurk. Both work. Personally i like opening with muta more, and then proceed to tech to lurks. Going straight to lurks is ok, and might give you the oportunity of getting another gas expo inmediately, by putting your first 2 lurks in the ramp that leads to that expo. If you decide to place your third hatch at your main, please use a "smart" spot. FE Terrans got 2 scans (imba) and can scan your tech fairly easy, and counter accordingly. Choices are he will scan your tech anyways, but at least the bastard will have to use some more scans, and hopefully, more time. OMGFFF
Ok so your base is settled, like it always is. But you may say: BUT OMG INTOTHEWOW TERRON JUST COMES WITH HUGE BALL AND EVERYThING KILLSS!!!111oneone.
Yes, im quite aware of the power of the terran "Ball".
All you need to beat that scary first terran try to defeating you is:
- Proper army placement -> a good flank - Some good speed (OMG APM CONTROVERSY) and timming to send your army, to stop your lings from being roasted and terran pulling back - Huge balls.
So. Luna has not-buildable terrain in middle and its big wide open. What better place to flank a terran?.
Place your army forming a semi circle around the place the terran army is more likely to go trought. Put a lonely brave (not) ling in that place. When his army comes out put all your hard practice you did during all those chat lobby sesions and 1a2a3a4a5a6a AS FAST AS YOU CAN. Watch your lings swarm into his army like chibi would rush into a 4th grade classroom, your lurkers get in range and BAM. FUCKING BLOODBATH ALL OVER THE TWIGHLIGHT TILE SET. Awesome.
Ok, so you say "BUT ITW, I WENT MUTALISKSSS WHAT DOO I DOO WITH THEM?".
You want your mutalisks to keep the terran in his base as long as you can. You can kill lonely svcs/marines whatever you find. But remember your main purpose is KEEPING THE TERRAN IN BASE. I often find myself crying against my keyboard while watching a rep from the strategy section because a zerg tries to kill stuff _too_ hard and gets all his mutalisks killed. Mutaslisk getting killed = terran going out = expos getting killed = you getting contained. Just simply fly around, move your mutas and tell the terran "stay in, otherwise i kill your stuff and rape your children". And no one wants his children getting raped.
If you are not fast enought to mutalisk harras while 1sz, 2sh, 3sd, 4so. Just fly your muta to a safe place (ie not the terran base). Macro 1 second and fly them back into ripping terran babies.
Okay, you can stop reading here. JUST KIDDING. Late game random thoughs ahead.
So you ripped the first push apart. You have secured 2 or more expansions with gas on luna and feel happy enought to kill the terran and call him a n00b after. What do we do?
Well... luna doesn leave many tech choices. You can make some guardians only to harrass behind his expo minerals (note: dont do this if the terran has a totally awesome number of vessels)
Without cliffs around the map, they become pretty obsolete unles you have godly awesome control. And this a newbie guide. So just dont go guardians.
Going ultralisks is a good choice. Depending on your gas income, you can hydra/ultra or ultra/ling (this being more common). You can add some defilers to that, or go defilers with lurkers first and then add the ultralisks. All depending on how you are doing in the game. Swarms kicks in faster and lets you survive pushes if terran is not vessel heavy. Ultras kick in a little later (the need their upgrades to be effective) but they kick major ass. Remember, expo macro expo macro expo macro. Get gas, get more ultralisks.
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Something important late game is, keeping your army in constant movement around the map. An idle army is a easy to mass-irradiate army. meaning no defilers, lings popping up from irradiate splash, and your army becoming little and phunny.
Countering, and counter-dropping is a good idea. A 4 overlord drop with 4 or 5 ultralisks, 1 defiler and a nice amount of lings can do some good damage to a main terran base without the proper defence. And if its not a win/lose situation for terran (ie, him being just able to kill you and lift his buildings). He will have to go back buying you time. Countering bases by ground with little but effective armies is also a good idea of course. Just remember, scourge vessels (everyone knows mass vessels = autowin), FLANK a lot, move your army. And expo expo expo. thats whats zergs do, turn minimap as green as they can. (heres how your minimap should look like)
Ps: This intends to be just a mini help guide to very newbie zergs, a good zerg can probably write just one website about how to ZvT on Luna.
I was bored and wanted to do something different. If its not for the strategy section, just close it
hmm, imo taking gas ZvT is good when terran does 8 rax 9 depot for bunk rush/pressure into fast acad-> fe I'd take an 8rax'ers gas with my drone if i see hes not adding a 2nd rax after it
you can still get bunker rushed badly if you 12 pool on certain maps. RoV is one, pioneer is another. i suggest doing 11 pool if you want to avoid one better but you need to portend that. of course on luna its fine. but we aren't going to play luna all day now are we
Not very in-depth, but good anyway for starters I guess. I just use 12 hatch every game on luna,play to improve on pgtour, don't just play to win. You aren't going to learn to stop bunker rushes if you are paranoid and 12 pool all the time. Of course on gay maps like azalea, PA, and Forte where it's ridiculously hard to stop bunker rushes, yeah, just 12 pool. If you cannot contain a terran using only your muta harassment, make sure you support with mutas with a group of lings so you can kill any mnm force that heads for your expos before you have lurkers. 7 mutas won't do shit against 12 marines and 4 medics, but 7 mutas and 12 lings will demolish it without losing more than 4 or so lings :D Also, reactions to seeing a bunker rush might change depending on when you scouted. 9 drone scout= just cancel hatch and 12 pool, later drone scout= fight it off with drones. With a 9 drone scout, your pool will be much slower and your hatch will also be a few seconds behind, making it much harder to stop with lings and drones. Rather than trying to send your overlord to another base to see rines, it might be a better idea to rally it to your natural for extra sight range so you can see the bunker being constructed. It's possible to build it out of sight range and in attack range and you'll only notice a glimpse of an scv, which is a little luck based since the scv might not turn toward you for a while. But if you have an overlord there, you can see the bunker as soon as he puts it up and bring out drones.
Taeet, I'm a Terran player myself (Lawl at "The Ball") but I've been trying to play ZvT and PvT for reverse matchup feels. This helps my ZvT tremendously.
I agree with what everyone says about this guide! Although, you lose crediablilty with by using the racist remarks appear to have no effect on everyone reading this topic.
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"If you happen to see a nigger with a space suit running around and looking for your base, try to guess where it comes from."
hydra lurk def is as good if not better than ult ling def especially cost efficiency wise, and you are less likely to blow a blood vessel due to frusteration from irad raids
taking their gas can be good in some situations. allows you to 3 hat after holding an 8 rax without worrying about 1 rax tank or such gay shit.
What's that last strat? With the devourer, mutalisk, and overlord? Do you use ovies to make the marines target something else, use the devourers to destroy science vessels and use mutalisks to wreck havoc?
On August 13 2006 18:00 M7Excellence wrote: I agree with what everyone says about this guide! Although, you lose crediablilty with by using the racist remarks appear to have no effect on everyone reading this topic.
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"If you happen to see a nigger with a space suit running around and looking for your base, try to guess where it comes from."
those remarks made the guide an even more enjoyable and entertaining read, not that im racist or anything :X. i only remember seeing that one reference, its all in good humor
EDIT: in no way am i implying that you're racist, i just found the reference amusing, while it appears that m7 did not~
hydra lurk def is as good if not better than ult ling def especially cost efficiency wise, and you are less likely to blow a blood vessel due to frusteration from irad raids
taking their gas can be good in some situations. allows you to 3 hat after holding an 8 rax without worrying about 1 rax tank or such gay shit.
I agree. Imo Hydra/lurk/defiler is even better than ultra/ling/defiler in some situations. Thing is hydra/lurk/defiler is a lot harder to control without the appropiate babysitting. A terran with a good vessel usage will just mass irradiate you, and if your not quick enought burrowing picking your own hydras, he will just decimate your forces.
Also Hydra/lurk tends to die horribly (even under swarms) to mass tank late game builds, because hydras tend to clump a lot more while firing (while ultra/ling clumps a little but around terran units, turning splash a little into your favor) imo.
well ultra ling is easier because if you have the econ to support it you can just mass attack move. but hydra lurk swarm plague supported by sufficient econ,used very well is nearly unbeatable. plague makes vessel raids very risky and swarm/plague/lurks can take out lots of tanks. it takes a pretty large amount of tanks well positioned to really do anything.
Yeah, thats what i said about army babysitting. And as this is a newbie guide i dont want to make playing a match a living hell xd. Once someone because good, or at least concious about whats he doing he will figure the rest by himself :>
I was not calling you a racist. I was merely saying that even though your style of humor is recognized by me, being black I felt that it took away your worthyness as a writer, by not being concious of others. I do understand that black people don't play bw much. Like someone said in the "Do niggers play bw?" post, I didn't know black people play bw, I thought that they are out stealing. I might not have quoted that correctly becuase it has stuck in my mind without even trying to store it there. I am not saying to anyone who is truely racist here to adjust to me or another one else. I do not have the right to judge you but as a member of this great community I wanted one of my fellow gamers to be aware that his guide was good and for me could have been even better.
Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing... then it will be done, but not until then. Lee, Spike
P.S. The below statement is steriotypical and may also fustrate someone... "you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines."
On August 13 2006 21:46 M7Excellence wrote: Hi Into,
I was not calling you a racist. I was merely saying that even though your style of humor is recognized by me, being black I felt that it took away your worthyness as a writer, by not being concious of others. I do understand that black people don't play bw much. Like someone said in the "Do niggers play bw?" post, I didn't know black people play bw, I thought that they are out stealing. I might not have quoted that correctly becuase it has stuck in my mind without even trying to store it there. I am not saying to anyone who is truely racist here to adjust to me or another one else. I do not have the right to judge you but as a member of this great community I wanted one of my fellow gamers to be aware that his guide was good and for me could have been even better.
Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing... then it will be done, but not until then. Lee, Spike
P.S. The below statement is steriotypical and may also fustrate someone... "you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines."
Racist comments have nothing to do with the quality of the guide... It might affect how you feel about it, but not the strategies given. White America is not racist, for the most part, they are instead, prejudiced, whether consciously or unconsciously. You're basically saying, by quoting Spike Lee, that the system is so deeply entrenched that merit cannot break through, which is something I have a hard time believing. You are basically saying you have no responsibility for your success or failure, that regardless of what you do, the system will block your way. Sure, you would be able to point out a lot of instances where there is some level of racism involved, but I don't think that you could say that it is completely responsible for the lack of success of black people. Somehow other races of people are able to come to America and, in a few generations start to do well, so what's the reason for that disparity? Is it that white people just hate black people the most? I don't know the answer, but it seems pretty unlikely.
On August 13 2006 18:00 M7Excellence wrote: I agree with what everyone says about this guide! Although, you lose crediablilty with by using the racist remarks appear to have no effect on everyone reading this topic.
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"If you happen to see a nigger with a space suit running around and looking for your base, try to guess where it comes from."
Although i have familly in africa and me myself am metis and my mum is black. That sentence makes sense to me since SCV's are black.
My mom overheard a white lady tell a black lady, "I'm going get your black ass fired." at her workplace. This was 4 months ago. Did the white lady get fired for racism?
True story.
muntol United States. April 13 2006 18:47.
as a proud man of color, i can safely say that a lot of you, because you never were black, don't realize how fucked up this could be. first of all, try to remember what it was like to be 18. or, some of you, try to imagine what it would be like to be 18. got it?
now imagine you're at a university. odds are you feel surrounded by white people. most of them are scared to offend you because you're black. some of them actually don't like you because your black. the smallest group want to become friends with you to prove they aren't racist because you're black.
now imagine, in all that fucked up paranoia, from the top, from the people in charge, who make tests and whatnot, from authority figures, you get this racist fucking reference to blacks and watermelons. okay so maybe you don't like condi, i don't like condi, whatever. she's a high profile black person, and this is like seeing a racist joke about her. it really makes me feel like i'm surrounded by racism even more.
and if you don't understand the watermelon thing, instead of saying that, why don't you open up a book?
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D.KaLiN April 13 2006 16:30. Posts 30 PM
A 10 year old black girl is FAR more dangerous then a 40 year old white convicted murderer. There is PLENTY of evidence that backs this statement. We need to start getting rid of black babies before they have a chance to hurt someone (they inevitably will its indisputable).
lil.sis United States. April 13 2006 16:36.
Sambo can pick 3 bushels of cotton per hour. He steals 15% of the cotton he picks for his own personal gain and then denies it. A bushel of cotton sells for $10, and a meal for Sambo costs $2.75. Assuming Sambo eats 1 meal a day and works 18 hours a day, is it profitable to allow Sambo to continue living on your plantation? Explain and show all work. ====================================================
I can't find what tl ppl said about scv being black or not. Many people here think it is because they have ash on their face of dust. Now if you anyone thinks that scv are black then you would have basicaly proved what Spike Lee said above if bw was real life
I didn't intend for my post to start something becuase I was not calling him racist. Secondly the author of the guide said very maturely, that he will edit his guide if he feels he needs to because of this issue that has arose. So I would like to stop this here for his sake. He has offered his efforts to us and I would like to focus on the the topic of a guide. If you would like to speak about anything with me about what I typed then please PM me.
i give it a "meh"...or 6/10. as a zerg player i think you left everything kind of cut and dry. zerg players have to be creative to survive in a TvZ, especially if the terran is good. but it was alright, nice work.
LOL...not the greatest guide ever, but probably the most entertaining. =D
Taking gas ZvT is a bit of an artform. Most people do it just becuase they think they are clever but really aren't. Taking gas is good if you have some sort of strategy in mind to combat fast expo (note that in general terms I don't recommend making the Terran fast expo...fast expo gives the Terran really good midgame power), or if you sense him shooting for a 3 rax rush or fast push (watch his rine count, watch how he's spending and if you're clever you can guess whether he's saving up for a CC). I did that to some newb ZvT on Azalea who was clearly aiming to rush me. It was LOL watching him mass up marines as I took the tech + expo advantage while he climbed over 30 supply devoid of gas.
On August 13 2006 21:46 M7Excellence wrote: Hi Into,
I was not calling you a racist. I was merely saying that even though your style of humor is recognized by me, being black I felt that it took away your worthyness as a writer, by not being concious of others. I do understand that black people don\'t play bw much. Like someone said in the \"Do niggers play bw?\" post, I didn\'t know black people play bw, I thought that they are out stealing. I might not have quoted that correctly becuase it has stuck in my mind without even trying to store it there. I am not saying to anyone who is truely racist here to adjust to me or another one else. I do not have the right to judge you but as a member of this great community I wanted one of my fellow gamers to be aware that his guide was good and for me could have been even better.
Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing... then it will be done, but not until then. Lee, Spike
P.S. The below statement is steriotypical and may also fustrate someone... \"you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines.\"
A few things:
1.) IMO you\'re being overly sensitive. One of the things I really like about comedians like Chappelle and Mencia is that their ethnic humor helps devalue racial slurs and stereotypes. It\'s the fact that they do make jokes out of it that does this. I can see where some people may be sensitive to this (particularly speaking, people who lived through the civil rights movement will find no humor whatsoever in these sorts of jokes). It may seem counter-intuitive at first glance, but I assure you that it is true that so long as we continue to attack what is considered politically incorrect, we will do nothing other than preserve racism.
2.) I find your definition of racism lacking, and I find it somewhat ironic that you feel that only the white world is racist. Your definition indicates that racism can only be created by law. Well, historically we have seen that this is most certainly not true. During the early 90\'s in a small country called Rwanda (situated in Southern Africa), there were two tribes somewhat at odds with each other, the Hutus and the Tutsis. I don\'t remember which one was the aggressor, but that side put out propaganda (but no laws) against the other and then was able to gather enough support to commit arguably the most gruesome genocide this world has ever seen. Over a period years, Hitler killed an estimated 6 million Jews. Over a period of 2 days, an estimated 800,000 to 1.5 million people were killed in Rwanda. This was not something done by way of law, but it was undeniably a case of racism on the highest level.
So racism clearly isn\'t summed up by laws, but merely in the existence of prejudice. This is where, in my opinion, the irony comes in. Merely by thinking that white America but only white America is racist, you are being a racist. Deny it though you may try, the logic is infallible. Further, there most certainly are black people who are racist, just as there are white people who are racist. I have met some of them. Racism is not specific to one ethnicity, never has been and never will be. And the only way to attack it is to deface racial slurs and stereotypes just as the aforementioned comedians do (thereby developing a tolerance to it by turning the insults into jokes), and shun extremist movements. Taking the word \"discrimination\" into it\'s broadest context, we see that the word merely means to distinguish between different things, and this is in fact the root of the meaning of the word when taken into a racial context. Distinguishing between things in general is an important part of human survival -- say for instance, distinguishing between a loaded and an unloaded gun, or a bottle of cyanide or a bottle of whine -- so in a sense, we will never end discrimination of any sort, not even racial. This should not be our goal; instead we should focus on preventing people from acting out in a discriminatory fashion.
3.) In part, you have to blame the song writers of the black community. Studies have shown that people act out on the music they listen to, particularly if they are young. A lot of black song writers say \"nigger\" a lot. Young kids listen and repeat. Similarly, a lot of song writers in general talk about drugs, sex and violence, and again kids listen and repeat.
4.) You just hijacked the thread and now I did too. You should have sent a PM to him about it, and really I ought to have sent you a PM, but I thought that there was enough here worthy of hijacking the thread momentarily, and I suspect you felt the same way about what you posted. Hopefully, no one will continue this thread hijacking, including both me and you.
Oh, and M7 you're just wrong. Compare TL.net to this place. Notice how the people at that place are dead serious, to the point of delusion. Notice how people here just try to introduce some humour. This is no different from some of the comments that were dropped in the "girlfiend got raped" thread. Insensitive? Perhaps, but funny as hell.
I thank you for all of your comments and corrections concerning what I said. Most of everything said to me was right. The best advice that I got from this is that I should have PMed him. I will do so in the futrue.
Good Guide!
Since I haven't been playing for long I can still remember how much I didn't know when I started. I would have loved this guide back then. I think it is very relatable for the beginner.
On August 13 2006 21:46 M7Excellence wrote: Hi Into,
I was not calling you a racist. I was merely saying that even though your style of humor is recognized by me, being black I felt that it took away your worthyness as a writer, by not being concious of others. I do understand that black people don't play bw much. Like someone said in the "Do niggers play bw?" post, I didn't know black people play bw, I thought that they are out stealing. I might not have quoted that correctly becuase it has stuck in my mind without even trying to store it there. I am not saying to anyone who is truely racist here to adjust to me or another one else. I do not have the right to judge you but as a member of this great community I wanted one of my fellow gamers to be aware that his guide was good and for me could have been even better.
Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing... then it will be done, but not until then. Lee, Spike
P.S. The below statement is steriotypical and may also fustrate someone... "you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines."
On August 14 2006 13:45 ManaBlue wrote: Hehe, I enjoyed the humour. Excellent post IntoTheWow, though I take great offence to what you said about my race.
if you (all toss collectively) stop whining every time a toss loses people will be nicer to you.
On August 14 2006 16:51 thedeadhaji wrote: When the mods see true racism in a condemnatory manner, most of the time action will be taken. Look at some of 8882's posts, and where it got him +__+
what happened to him, he finally got banned( PLS PLS PLS )
12 pool to 4 hat is a great strategy for safely taking your nat and an expand on luna - or any 4 player map that isn't requiem, for that matter. And sometimes vs SK, 2 evo chamber hydra/scourge is a good counter. Overall a very good guide, but marks off for the nigger comment.
On August 13 2006 21:46 M7Excellence wrote: Hi Into,
I was not calling you a racist. I was merely saying that even though your style of humor is recognized by me, being black I felt that it took away your worthyness as a writer, by not being concious of others. I do understand that black people don't play bw much. Like someone said in the "Do niggers play bw?" post, I didn't know black people play bw, I thought that they are out stealing. I might not have quoted that correctly becuase it has stuck in my mind without even trying to store it there. I am not saying to anyone who is truely racist here to adjust to me or another one else. I do not have the right to judge you but as a member of this great community I wanted one of my fellow gamers to be aware that his guide was good and for me could have been even better.
Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing... then it will be done, but not until then. Lee, Spike
P.S. The below statement is steriotypical and may also fustrate someone... "you are aleady scared because you are facing those ugly soviets with their pothead marines."
So when you make jokes and stuff, you off-limit all material that may offend any particular groups? Wow, boring. =D
2. I am 27 and have been in business since I was 18. So after learning how to give speaches and consult adults in business, you pick up the mindfulness of all people and there differences. Given this, you will notice that in my first reply in this post, I said that using racist TERMS/REMARKS takes away from a lesson and the writer. That is all that I inteded to convey, everything else was assumed by other.
3. Please, andyone else who wants to comment about what I have siad in this post, PM me.
this is brood war forum filled mostly with young adults from all over the world, no one cares about how good of a writer someone is as long as the stuff he writes is funny. Racial stuff gets thrown around all the time, we all know what is too much and what is just poking fun. I understand your bringing to attention racial stereotypes in intothewow's writing. But I don't think it's needed because it's not anything serious, it was just a zerg beginner's guide, I'm sure intothewow knows how to write properly when he needs to. Please don't be so sensitive and uptight about these issues. The fact that race isn't brought up all the time here is a testament to how smart and multicultural we are (although we are all asian)... but otherwise I think you're just bringing up something that doesn't need to be brought up and youre oversensitive about it and on top of that stole a very good thread.
In general, oversensitivity + the internet = half the people in the thread acting like self-ritious assholes and the other half being overly insulting/racist just to piss off the people on their high horses.
On August 15 2006 12:04 ManaBlue wrote: In general, oversensitivity + the internet = half the people in the thread acting like self-ritious assholes and the other half being overly insulting/racist just to piss off the people on their high horses.
You're overreacting to people overreacting. Come on everybody, JLIG~
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![[image loading]](http://battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/units/Lurker1.gif)
![[image loading]](http://battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/units/Devourer1.gif)
![[image loading]](http://battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/units/Mutalisk1.gif)
![[image loading]](http://battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/units/Overlord1.gif)
i hate having to drone/ling. sunks ftw. 
![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Lucifer_6_6_6/4919501242.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7131/fancyce5.jpg)
