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[DH] Matchup Stats about 8 players at Dreamhack

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DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
July 19 2013 05:16 GMT
#1
Because Dreamhack releases replays after their events, we actually have a ton of data available for each of these players. I went through the players seeded into Group Stage #2 and checked their performance at Dreamhack Summer. Here's what I found:


1. Lucifron beat Sonder 2-0 using almost the exact same opening in both games. He opened with 2 Reapers into 3 CC and Hellions. The builds only start to diverge around 7:00 (ref)

2. Harstem went 4-4 (50%) in PvZ. He cannon rushed in 3 of his 4 wins, and in none of his losses (ref)

3. TheStC only played TvT in 1 series, going mech in both games against Morrow in by far his longest games (24 and 31 minutes) (ref)

4. Hyun went 7-1 (82.5%) in ZvT (ignore the issues parsing gameheart games). The games lasted between 9 and 19 minutes, with his 1 loss coming against TheStC in the longest game. His 3 fastest wins, unsurprisingly, came off of Roach-Zergling all-ins (ref)

5. StarNaN went 0-6 in PvZ. Granted, it was against Hyun, Life, and Pig, but YugiOh isn't going to be much easier (ref)

6. Stephano went 6-2 (75%) in ZvZ, losing only to Hyun. He doesn't build very many Roaches but does build a lot of Zerglings (ref)

7. Tefel went 8-1 (89%) in ZvP, losing only to Harstem's cannon rush. He went Roach/Hydra in ALL of these games (ref)

8. NightEnD went 3-1 (75%) in PvZ, using a Gateway Expand build in all of them (ref)


Quick plug: you might have noticed that all of the references are from Spawning Tool, a site I'm working on that tags and parses builds out of replays so we can do better meta-analysis. Please play around with it and see what you find out. Note that it's still in beta, so sorry if you run into any bugs. Let me know if you have any feedback, and I'll see what I can do!
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
July 20 2013 07:39 GMT
#2
Spawning Tool website looks cool, cant wait to try it out
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tropical
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany61 Posts
July 20 2013 16:45 GMT
#3
I have to say this is awesome! I have been waiting soooooo long for this! Thank you!
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 20 2013 16:54 GMT
#4
On July 19 2013 14:16 DeathSoror wrote:
6. Stephano went 6-2 (75%) in ZvZ, losing only to Hyun. He doesn't build very many Roaches but does build a lot of Zerglings (ref)


This is wrong, he was knocked out 2-0 by Jaedong.
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Chubz
Profile Joined March 2011
France119 Posts
July 20 2013 16:59 GMT
#5
6. Stephano went 6-2 (75%) in ZvZ, losing only to Hyun. He doesn't build very many Roaches but does build a lot of Zerglings (ref)


He lost to Goswer 1-2 too..
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 20 2013 17:03 GMT
#6
On July 21 2013 01:59 Chubz wrote:
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6. Stephano went 6-2 (75%) in ZvZ, losing only to Hyun. He doesn't build very many Roaches but does build a lot of Zerglings (ref)


He lost to Goswer 1-2 too..

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