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[WCS EU] Ro16 - Group B Preview/Group A Recap (S1)

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[WCS EU] Ro16 - Group B Preview/Group A Recap (S1)

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May 15th, 2013 04:07 GMT

2013 WCS Europe

WCS Europe Season 1 - Premier League




Ro16: Group A Preview
TLO and ForGG advance.


Ro16: Group B Preview
Happy, VortiX, NaNiwa, BabyKnight


Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Premier League Ro16:
Group A Recap

by kollin

Results from Live Report Thread by SinCitta.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
ForGG vs. TLO
(T)ForGG <ESL Whirlwind> (Z)TLO
(T)ForGG <ESL Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)TLO
(T)ForGG <ESL Neo Planet S> (Z)TLO

(Z)TLO wins 2-1!

MMA vs. Strelok
(T)MMA <ESL Akilon Wastes> (T)Strelok
(T)MMA <ESL Daybreak> (T)Strelok
(T)MMA <ESL Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)Strelok

(T)Strelok wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(Z)TLO <ESL Star Station> (T)Strelok
(Z)TLO <ESL Newkirk Precinct> (T)Strelok
(Z)TLO <ESL Whirlwind> (T)Strelok

(Z)TLO wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(T)ForGG <ESL Akilon Wastes> (T)MMA
(T)ForGG <ESL Whirlwind> (T)MMA
(T)ForGG <ESL Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)MMA

(T)ForGG wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)Strelok <ESL Akilon Wastes> (T)ForGG
(T)Strelok <ESL Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)ForGG
(T)Strelok <ESL Neo Planet S> (T)ForGG

(T)ForGG wins 2-0!



(Z)TLO and (T)ForGG advance to RO8!


(Z)Liquid`TLO and (T)Mill.ForGG sweep aside (T)Acer.MMA and (T)Na`Vi.Strelok to reach Ro8

In a surprise result, the surging German (Z)Liquid`TLO cruised through his Ro16 group with two ex-champion Koreans to easily take first place and reach the Ro8. Having just one race to prepare for seemed to pay off for TLO, as he defeated ForGG 2 - 1, and then Strelok 2 - 0 to become the first player to reach the quarter-finals of WCS Europe. Coming through in second place was the pseudo-foreigner (T)ForGG, who relied on his famed TvT prowess to pull him into the Ro16.

While TLO's initial victory against ForGG was the more impressive one on paper, the more interesting series was his one against Strelok in the winners match. Going up against the hellbat-heavy mech style of Strelok, TLO went from mutalisks into swarm host drops to totally neutralize Strelok in game one. Strelok's production was severely hampered with locusts swarming all over his base, and from there it was only a hop, a skip and a jump to brood lord tech for TLO, who finished off his opponent with ease.

The next game (sadly) did not include anything as interesting as swarm host drops, and instead was just a good old fashioned macro game. Once again, TLO went for a mutalisk into swarm host strategy, and once again brood lords ended up finishing Strelok off, despite the Ukrainian Terran's best attempt to turn it into a base trade. With that, TLO advanced to the Ro8 in the first season of WCS EU, continuing his quest toward the title while earning a seed in the next season as well.

Although the Korean ForGG was thwarted by TLO in TvZ, he lived up to his reputation as a nigh unstoppable TvT player by crushing MMA and Strelok to make it through the group in second place. Showing off a profound sense for his opponent's weak timings, ForGG was able to cut through MMA and Strelok with solid play. Particularly notable was his play in the final match, where he punished Strelok's reliance on hellbats with the far more mobile hellions.

Unfortunately for MMA, the fallen prince of SlayerS, he ended yet another tournament with a disappointing finish. Throughout his games he looked off kilter and indecisive, while the the ferocious multitasking that once let him rise to the top was nowhere to be seen. While his loss to ForGG - a Terran with a tremendous TvT win-rate in HotS - was not surprising, few expected him to lose to the Ukrainian Terran Strelok. However, the foreigner had a few tricks up his sleeve that MMA seemed totally unprepared for, such as carrying the hellbats around in medivacs to drop on top of bio during fights. MMA could not find an answer for Strelok's play by the end of the series, and paid the price by falling to the Challenger League.

Round of 16: Group B Preview

by Kollin

se (P)Alliance.NaNiwa

Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls, Naniwa - the unfiltered, Swedish, totally-not-on-EG, Dreamhack runner-up - is here. He has certainly reestablished his position at the top of the foreign scene, as he came one game within winning the championship at a Korean dominated Dreamhack: Stockholm. While Nani did lose his match against TLO 0 - 2 in the Ro32, that's not really a mark against him given the kind of form TLO has been showing us lately. And anyway, Naniwa beat him by the same scoreline back at DreamHack. It's not as if Naniwa's PvZ is lacking, as his gateway-first play took out multiple top Zergs and was quickly copied by players all over the world.

Furthermore, Naniwa's non-PvZ matchups aren't looking too shabby either. The newly crowned King of the North (we're not sure who is in charge of awarding this title) also has proved to be his usual strong self against Protoss players, as he took out ToD and MC at DreamHack. The one worry is his lack of a PvT record, with just wins over Clarity's Shuttle to go on as of late. However, even a surprise loss to Happy in his first match won't be anything NaNiwa can't overcome.

It's the Ro16, and every player will be a challenger for the others to beat, and NaNiwa is no exception. However, he has distinguished himself above nearly all the other competitors with his extremely impressive run at Dreamhack. While Nani does sometimes slip up, as proved by his loss to TLO, the Swedish toss has one of the best track records of all the players left in the tournament when the stakes become higher and the pressure starts to mount. Upsets can and will happen along the way, but Naniwa is our pick to take first in this group.

[image loading] (T)Empire|Happy

The sole Terran in this group is Happy, a Russian Terran that tends to not get much attention considering he is one of the strongest foreign Terrans right now. He didn't do quite as his first round opponent NaNiwa at DreamHack, but he did place in the top 32 with wins over Thorzain and Nightend before falling out of a tough group with HerO, Zenio and teammate Kas.

Happy has always done well in miscellaneous online tournaments that foreigners (and Hyun) often compete in, recently placing top 6 in the EIZO Cup where he beat Socke, Nerchio and DIMAGA . The problem with Happy is that he hasn't made any headlines in premier tournaments. WCS Europe 2012 was his big chance last year, but he crumbled in important matches and barely missed out on reaching the Global Finals in China. This is no easy group, but if recent online results are anything to by, Happy has a pretty good chance of seeing himself to the Ro8 and becoming one of the new Terran stars of HotS.

dk (P)Na`Vi.BabyKnight

Over the past year or so, Babyknight has risen from being an okay Danish Protoss that was more known for being an ex Dota-player, to a mainstay in the European scene. He currently finds himself back on Na`vi, the team where he started his whole Starcraft 2 career, and has done well for them by coming in the top 4 at the ESET UK Masters tournament. However, he had a very down performance at Dreamhack, where he lost to Fuzer, ForGG and Oz while showing some strangely poor play.

His WCS EU group on the other hand was a whole different story. Babyknight beat two top foreigners, in Grubby and Stephano, to take first place in the group. While beating Stephano in PvZ nowadays might not be as impressive as it would be 6 months ago, it is still impressive and shows that Dreamhack might just have been a very off-tournament for BabyK. Either that, or he has a problem facing foreign Terrans and their high HPM (hellbats per mineral), but even if that's the case there's just one Terran in this group.

es (Z)K3.VortiX

Vortix has to be feeling good about himself. Not too long after Stephano called him a patch zerg, VortiX is doing as well as ever while the French Zerg has announced his impending retirement. This puts Vortix on the fast track to become the new #1 EU Zerg, especially with Nerchio is falling off in terms of results. WCS EU will be Vortix's chance to succeed Stephano once and for all, with this group being another chance to show that he belongs to a different class of player.

VortiX is the only player in this group who did not compete in Dreamhack Stockholm so there's less data to go on in live events, while VortiX's results from online events such as ATC are good but erratic. He did take easy victories against monchi and Dayshi in his Ro32 group, they are not of the same caliber as the opponents in the Ro16. Even though we haven't seen him in a big live event for a bit, we can't forget that this is the same player that came second in WCS EU last year, and then came top 8 in the following grand finals.

Overall Predictions

Despite his little stumble against TLO last round, Naniwa is still far and away the favorite to take this group. His PvZ was looking extraordinarily strong at Dreamhack, and there's no reason to doubt his other match-ups. Happy is a gem hidden beneath the mountains of Russia and is one of the best foreign Terrans in the world right now, he just has yet to show it. While both Vortix and Babyknight are strong players in their own right, neither of them look strong enough to take down the Nani-Happy wombo combo.

Happy > Vortix
Naniwa > Babyknight
Naniwa > Happy
Vortix > Babyknight
Happy > Vortix

NaNiwa and Happy advance.
Writers: Kollin.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Lokken_8
Profile Joined May 2011
Czech Republic69 Posts
May 15 2013 04:25 GMT
#2
Sensible prediction, but picking Happy over Vortix just seems wrong to me, he has Lucifron to practice TvZ with after all!
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
May 15 2013 04:38 GMT
#3
One f the toughest groups to predict. If every player has a Good day i Think naniwa and vortix Will advance!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 15 2013 04:41 GMT
#4
Vortix will win the group and we'll get a DuranDuran finals
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 15 2013 04:43 GMT
#5
Naniwa win, Vortex lose, then I'm happy
Refer to my post.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 15 2013 05:11 GMT
#6
i really want nani to go far so people don't just call his run at dreamhack a fluke
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 15 2013 05:26 GMT
#7
this should be a good group! i'd like naniwa and vortix to make it
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 05:59:10
May 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#8
Head:
Happy < VortiX
NaNiwa > BabyKnight
VortiX < NaNiwa
Happy > BabyKnight
VortiX > Happy
NaNiwa and VortiX advance.

Heart:
Happy < VortiX
NaNiwa > BabyKnight
VortiX > NaNiwa
Happy < BabyKnight
NaNiwa < BabyKnight
VortiX and BabyKnight advance.
A mind sharper than any blade.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
May 15 2013 06:39 GMT
#9
Happy advancing? Na, I don't see it. Naniwa and Babyknight IMO
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 15 2013 06:40 GMT
#10
I think Happy is pretty overrated here, IMO Naniwa is a lock, and I give the next spot to Vortix because his last name is half of DuranDuran
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
May 15 2013 06:52 GMT
#11
I'm rooting for Nani and Vortix
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 15 2013 07:01 GMT
#12
how can anyone bet on happy ? he will go out 0-2 0-2 you hear it here
the queston is vortix or babyknight 2nd but for SURE not happy
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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
May 15 2013 07:10 GMT
#13
It's going to be Naniwa and Vortix.....
Hantypen
Profile Joined January 2013
Norway17 Posts
May 15 2013 07:13 GMT
#14
I'm going for:
Happy < Vortix
Naniwa < Babyknight
Vortix < Babyknight
Naniwa > Happy
Naniwa > Vortix

Babyknight and Naniwa advance
QuellaX
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands29 Posts
May 15 2013 07:15 GMT
#15
Naniwa and Vortix
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 15 2013 07:16 GMT
#16
I dont think Happy will make it either.
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
May 15 2013 07:26 GMT
#17
expecting and hoping for nani + vortix
ps: sick stuff, tlo
Eboceixa
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium60 Posts
May 15 2013 07:26 GMT
#18
Happy may surprise many of us.

I still think Vortix will do it (head and heart)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 15 2013 07:42 GMT
#19
Rooting for Happy & VortiX. I always have a soft spot for good players who aren't full time pros.
KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 07:47:19
May 15 2013 07:44 GMT
#20
Very questionnable predictions from the writter of the article here, I don't think Happy stands a chance against VortiX.
NaNiwa vs VortiX will be closer though, but I still see VortiX taking the series and the first place with a 2 - 1 score.

With VortiX recently beating Alicia, CranK, Monster, finale and Killer in Acer Teamstory Cup, I doubt other players in this group will be able to put him in difficulty.
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