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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 09:45:05
January 27 2013 10:54 GMT
#1
Be sure to include some Juicy analysis. Are there any obvious steals this season? Any obvious anti-team picks? Which team do you think is the best for its value? All these questions and more to be answered in this thread. Here are some of the best analyses:

HwangjaeTerran's Throatwobbler Mangrove
Gimmeurladderpoints's Nerd Ballers
Koerage's DuckDiversPros
KeksX's stilldunnos
mrbamboo's bamboos
bittman's bittmans
ViperPL's Sonic Death Monkies
warmus's jeluz
Nezgar's Best Friends Forever
PVJ's PVJ Pompadours
Ammanas' Dragons Reborn
Ctesias' Team Munje
slowbacontron's Chicken Sandwiches
ApBullet's ApBullets
.kv's Flying Pink Unicorns
Fuchsteufelswild's Suzaku Sky Dance
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 03:39:23
January 27 2013 10:56 GMT
#2
You beat me to it this time.
Not This Time

Main Team
8 (T)Fantasy (captain)
He is simply so good to be in any team's ace position, great all around player.
5 (P)herO[jOin]
He deserves 7 point imo, solid PvZ and PvP.
3 (P)JYP
JYP is a great backbone to rely on in PL format.
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
No.2 player for KT for only 5 points? That's insane!
5 (Z)Soulkey
Same as above.
3 (P)Trap
Decent sniper, has a lot of potential to do better and better.
1 SK Telecom T1
They did terrible in R2, but they will be back in R3.

Anti Team
2 (P)Flying
Not playing.
3 (Z)hyvaa
He face JYP on a Protoss favored map.
8 (P)JangBi
PvP vs herO? Oh poor OSL champion.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:36:13
January 27 2013 10:59 GMT
#3
sktworstkt

Main Team
5 (P)Dear
5 (P)herO[jOin]
8 (P)Rain (captain)
5 (Z)Revival
5 (Z)Soulkey
1 (T)Swift
1 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
8 (P)Argo(Jaehoon)
2 (T)Puma
3 (Z)Shine

Work in progress.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2013 11:02 GMT
#4
Parting Rainmaker Inc.

Main Team
5 (Z)Action
2 (T)Bbyong
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
5 (P)Stats (captain)
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
8 (P)Argo(Jaehoon)
2 (T)Puma
3 (P)Trap
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:10:11
January 27 2013 11:06 GMT
#5
Wunder's Wonders

Main Team
2 (T)Bbyong
6 (T)Cure(Speed)
8 (T)Fantasy (captain)
5 (P)herO[jOin]
4 (Z)soO
4 (P)Terminator(Sang)
1 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
5 (P)Dear
3 (Z)Savage(Ryul2)

Pretty hard choices this round with so many 8 pointers. My boy ZerO got bumped up so much that I couldn't take him over the steady Fanta. On the other hand there were a bunch of great 4/5 pointers to pick from, such as soO, herO and Terminator. Made a gamble with 6 pointer Cure in hopes that he will continue to hold T8 together and finished it with 2 pointer Bbyong and SKT T1.

My Anti-team is probably quite weak as there with the advent of good 4/5 pointers, there was also the fact that you had to choose a few to be on your anti. I think the Savage and Action picks are OK, with maybe Dear proving he might bite me in the ass later.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:06:50
January 27 2013 11:06 GMT
#6
Perfect Pandas

Main Team
1 (T)BarrackS
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 (P)Dear
10 (T)Flash (captain)
5 (Z)Revival
4 (Z)soO
2 (Wiki)EG.TL

Anti Team
8 (P)JangBi
3 (T)Last
2 (T)Major

Went with the hope EGTL pick up some form (don't know why, but they should be used to things by now). Also hoping Jangbi doesn't kill my Anti team!
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Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
January 27 2013 11:09 GMT
#7
On January 27 2013 20:06 Pandemona wrote:
Also hoping Jangbi doesn't kill my Anti team!

I went with the assumption that Jangbi can best herO in a PvP this week, which admittedly sounds more and more crazy as I think about it.
Also Bisu.

Third time's a charm

Main Team
2 (P)Bisu
8 (T)Fantasy
7 (P)HerO (captain)
1 (Z)IdrA
3 (P)JYP
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
5 (P)herO[jOin]
3 (T)Reality
5 (P)Stats
adymus
Profile Joined August 2011
Romania140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:10:59
January 27 2013 11:10 GMT
#8
oGs

Main Team
10 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (T)Major
1 (Z)oDin
8 (P)Rain
2 (T)ThorZain
5 (T)TY(Baby)
2 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
7 (P)free
3 (T)Last
3 (Z)Savage(Ryul2)
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:16:48
January 27 2013 11:16 GMT
#9
Ang-MATHS DA BEST

Main Team
3 (Z)hyvaa
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
8 (P)JangBi (captain)
3 (P)JYP
3 (Z)Shine
5 (Z)Soulkey
2 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
3 (P)Trap
5 (T)TY(Baby)

#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
Tyrrhus
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:21:11
January 27 2013 11:17 GMT
#10
3 Times-a-Charm

Main Team
5 (Z)Action
2 (P)BisAnG
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
8 (P)JangBi (captain)
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
3 (T)Reality
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
2 (P)Bisu
8 (P)Rain
3 (Z)s2

I expect KT to own this round with so many good players.
BisanG and Reality are filler (both are going to play according to the starter thread). Hopefully they'll give some points.
JangBi is my captain because he was good last round, seems to get better and likely is going to be Khan's ace

Anti-team:
Wanted to choose Taeja because he can't play due to wrist injury but I can't pick him so I picked Rain (high points, didn't do so well last round). Bisu doesn't get any play. s2 disappointed me in round 1.
Tuturuu, team only macro, no micro.
SKaysc
Profile Joined May 2010
United States305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:20:47
January 27 2013 11:18 GMT
#11
Mr Sit Math

Main Team
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 (P)herO[jOin]
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
2 (P)Motive
5 (Z)Soulkey
5 (P)Stats (captain)
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
8 (P)Argo(Jaehoon)
2 (T)Major
3 (Z)Shine

Lets all hop on the KT train!!!! CHOO CHOO

On a serious note: I feel that Motive for 2 has potential as he was really shining at the end of R1, Innovation for 6 is very good value for a sure-ace Crazy Hydra for 3?! Whaaaaa!!
MiCa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States147 Posts
January 27 2013 11:21 GMT
#12
RaeL

Main Team
6 (T)Cure(Speed)
10 (T)Flash (captain)
3 (Z)hyvaa
1 (P)Leta
4 (T)Light
2 (T)sKyHigh
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (P)herO[jOin]
3 (P)JYP
5 (T)TY(Baby)

Well its obs that i play terran, thats why i went with this. Ty has been disappointing. Last round
i had jangbi on my main ahhhhh LOL.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull sheet. - W. C. Fields
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:33:09
January 27 2013 11:26 GMT
#13
Throatwobbler Mangrove

Main Team
7 (Z)Effort
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
4 (T)Light
2 (P)Motive (captain)
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
4 (P)Terminator(Sang)
2 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
2 (P)Bisu
7 (P)free
4 (Z)soO

I went for a quite balanced line-up, investing in players who all get to play and preferably in earlier sets than late ones, didn't make the mistake of captaining someone expensive who then starts losing and I can't trade him. Team is Samsung Khan because WJS's price skyrocketed and Khan players started actually looking a bit better, it's not impossible to imagine 4 of them winning, atleast again lamer teams. With Jangbi/RorO, who are starting to look really good Ace choices, they only need 1 win from some dinosaur-clad WoW-nerd to have a good chance at winning. I didn't but either in my team because it's Samsung Khan and they never seem to realize that you can keep winning.
Effort 7 pointer, because he is solid, gets to play Ace-matches and has good chances against non-protoss at least. Light,Innovation for 10 e-bucks is a bargain IMHO, both all-killed last round so their overall skills should be really good to go into the standard format.
Wooki for a 5 makes me feel a bit uncomfortable but he all-killed too and gets to play Best first round, who probably doesn't have too hot PvP.
Terminator started last round well but then kinda fizzled. I believe he'll be back. Seriously, it's just a cool name.
Motive is my captain because he'll probably get to play first or second a lot, he doesn't seem all that bad. He also gets to play soo on the first round, and soo's ZvP doesn't look too hot, Motive even has a kill on him.

e. Anti-team
free really looked like crap most of the time although he got a lot of wins. I think his success made him overperform towards the end of R2. Also, getting a 7 pointer allowed me to field my super-ace Bisu. soO's there too, I think Flash has used his skill-sucking device on him as well.
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Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 13:41:07
January 27 2013 11:26 GMT
#14
Nerd ballers

+ Show Spoiler +
Main Team
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
8 (Z)Hydra (captain)
3 (P)JYP
2 (T)Major
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
5 (P)Stats
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
7 (P)free
3 (Z)hyvaa
3 (T)Last


Or screw that.

New Team

Nerd ballers

Main Team
5 (Z)Action
5 (P)herO[jOin]
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
2 (T)Major
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki) (captain)
5 (P)Stats
2 Team 8

Anti Team
3 (Z)hyvaa
2 (P)Mini
8 (P)Rain

New Thoughts:
I went over the numbers again, and came to the conclusion that having a reeaaally high value player like fantasy, Flash or hydra might not payoff in the PL-Format. So i cut hydra and started again

Action --> KT Rolster. 5 Points. Zerg. Do i need to say more? 5 points is not that much, he has good winrate and plays on the team that will win the most. Also he seems to be the number one zerg, ranked higher than CH, so i decided to bench CH for now
HeroJoin --> On a downward spiral right now, but still one of the better players in PL and i think he will do well for a 5 pointer.
Bogus --> I needed an Ace player, since i cut hydra, so i went with the cheapest ace player, Bogus fucked me up big time, when i put him in my main team last round, but i hope he will do well this time. He seemed to be in much better shape last week.
Major --> Same old Same old. Needed a cheap player. Team 8 looks pretty decent. He said he will get playtime in Round 3 if everything goes according to his plan. So I went full foreigner and bought him. Will propably hurt me but oh well
Wooki/Stats --> I think they make for a excellent backbone and i predict that they will score a whole lot of points.
Team 8 --> So i could afford the players I wanted. I think they will do better than EG-TL

Anti:
Rain --> Bad form lately, hope he continues to dissapoint, altough i am aware, that he's a pretty big risk
hyvva --> Didn't do anything to impress me
Mini --> He lookes atrocious most of the time.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 27 2013 11:28 GMT
#15
Here's my team which I threw together in like two minutes:

FLABREZU

Main Team
1 (T)BarrackS
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
10 (T)Flash (captain)
5 (P)herO[jOin]
2 (P)Motive
5 (P)Stats
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (Z)Revival
4 (Z)soO
4 (P)Terminator(Sang)
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
January 27 2013 11:29 GMT
#16
PAHTING

Main Team
5 (P)Dear
7 (Z)Effort
1 (P)Leta
4 (T)Light
1 (T)Snow
8 (Z)ZerO (captain)
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
2 (P)Bisu
3 (P)Bong[S.G]
8 (T)Fantasy

Feel like not going for the biggest names, all-kill format suited me better tho.
ZerO and Effort will deliver, their teams might not. Fantasy feels not all too powerful atm, a lot of points for him so he makes my anti complete.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:35:02
January 27 2013 11:34 GMT
#17
Watchers

Main Team
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
6 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
5 (P)P7GAB(Wooki)
3 (T)Reality
4 (Z)soO
4 (P)Terminator(Sang)
2 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
2 (Z)ABLM(check)
3 (Z)s2
8 (P)sOs(Shy)

Bogus is the STX ace for only 6 points, i trust in him, also JD is only 6 points. I went with all good/decent players this time instead of 1 or 2 big names. I havve been impressed by P7GAB's play so he was a must. Also looking at the first match, i expect most, if not all, to win them.

For anti i wanted at least 1 players who wont play at all (ABLM has a 0-3 record so far, dont expect him to get picked) and a player who wont win as much, so i needed one 8 pointer. Think sOs wont do really well this round. And his first match is vs TY, and i think he will lose that (TY might went out in GSL,but he played good, almost picked him for my team, but it was him or P7GAB).
Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
January 27 2013 11:37 GMT
#18
KARAHara

Main Team
3 (T)Bravo(hon_sin)
5 (P)Dear
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
2 (T)Major
5 (Z)Soulkey (captain)
5 (P)Stats
4 KT Rolster

Anti Team
3 (P)Bong[S.G]
8 (Z)Hydra
2 (Z)SonGDuri

Stats and KT Rolster have shown that they are really good when preparing for 1 specific opponent in Round 1.
Dear and BoguS from STX SouL seem to be in good shape towards the end of Round 2 and hopefully keep up their practice to do well in Round 3.
Soulkey and hOn_sin from Woongjin Stars to get some good regulars from Woongjin Stars for some points as they should continue to be 2nd place team after KT Rolster.
MajOr from Team 8th as filler with potentially getting send out towards the end of Round 3.

Hydra, SonGDuri and Bong from CJ Entus on anti so i only have to hope 1 certain team has to lose instead of keeping track of multiple teams. >.>
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 27 2013 11:40 GMT
#19
Main Team
2 (T)Bbyong
5 (P)herO[jOin]
6 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
4 (T)Light (captain)
4 (Z)soO
5 (P)Stats
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
7 (P)free
3 (Z)s2
3 (Z)TRUE(Alone)

Normally, I pick one or two expensive players and fill up with 3/4 pointers who have potential. This round, however, there are so many juicy picks in the 4/5 price range that I forwent picking any expensive players. Still, I ended up with two solid ace match candidates in Bogus and CJ_herO, and who knows if a coach won't send Light, soO or Stats to play the ace match on a good day. All of them should see plenty of play time. Also, there's Bbyong lol.
Woongjin Stars is a very strong team with perhaps the greatest depth of all. The proleague format should fit them even better than the all-kill format. I expect them to end many matches before the ace match.

I'm not really happy with my anti-team. Free will certainly score points, but I hope he won't live up to his 7 point price on a team with stiff competition for a lineup spot. With Taeja unpickable for the anti-team, I didn't really find any satisfying options. I'm just gonna have to live in fear.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 15:05:52
January 27 2013 11:48 GMT
#20
DuckDiversPro

Main Team
3 (T)Bravo(hon_sin)
7 (P)HerO (captain)
3 (P)JYP
4 (T)Light
5 (Z)Revival
4 (Z)soO
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
2 (P)Bisu
5 (P)herO[jOin]
6 (Z)Jaedong

First of choices for antiteam, that was way harder to do than last rounds (addmitedly i failed last time with stork suddenly winning alot). Bisu isnt playing this week and i doubt he will get played often, so basically 2 free points there. Decided to split the remaining 11 between two players rather than taking a high-risk move (no 8+). JD seemed weak against toss and Dear is on a roll lately (6 kills out of 7 for STX) so im counting on the win there for Dear to prevent the Dong from getting me points. herO is playing JangBi, PvP remains a tossup but i have faith in JangBi to also stop herO from winning. while SKT, EGTL and CJ might give me some small losses, i'd take that over someone who might win acematch.
Main team then:
JYP and Revival swapped value and JYP performed well round 1 and seems a good vP and vZ bet on most maps (and the occasional vT win even :O), Revival is prolly the 2nd zerg for EGTL (since stephano is hopping on and off the team?) and JD is mainy great for winning ZvZ's, so i hope revival keeps send out. For the combined value of 8, great pair of players to have on a team that might get a bigger winratio than .500 this time. Decided on the terran WJS duo of Bravo and Light, they're quite cheap but since they're the best terrans on WJS (imo), at least one of them seems guarenteed to play each week and WJS is my team as well cuz i expect them to win alot, so even if they dont play or lose they should give me some points. Had 11 points left and came to some hard choices; i wanted another toss and zerg (so my team is 2-2-2 and i can always trade first round should i want to). Opted for soO because he seems the strongest zerg on SKT, and should SKT win alot the +1 for that will balance out the ones i might get on Bisu. Im not expecting SKT to win alot again this round, they seem weaker than before, but now that they cant be stomped by 1 player they might end up winning some matches.
Then i had to pick a toss player for 7 points and i'm still not sure about it - Stork, who showed good results last round all the time but was horrible in round 1 - or HerO? Right now i'm going with Stork but if everyone here is going HerO or can convince me to take HerO, i might swap them. Right now i took Stork because he destroyed my antiteam last round and i hope he keeps playing like that, and HerO might have to focus on GSL and foreign event much more than Stork, which could affect him or he might even miss some matches because he isn't in korea...

TL;DR
Overall i tried to get many "midvalued" players, last rounds i always had 1/2 pointers and both times i ended up with only 1 point overall from them, so that sucked bigtime. The only 2value i have is Bisu and he's on anti so i hope it stays like that. Not sure about my captain - Stork or HerO. One of them becomes captain, the other is out. Suggestions/comments?

EDIT:
swapped Stork out and HerO is in... might be the worst decision of all bad ones i have made, but well, HerO seems the most likely ace for EGTL unless the other team is pretty much guarenteed to play a zerg, whereas stork on KHAN also has JangBi
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