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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 08 2012 01:28 GMT
#7
/in unless ban list stuff prevents me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 09 2012 02:53 GMT
#18
seems like no ban list shit for me after all YAY!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 12 2012 04:58 GMT
#209
On December 12 2012 13:23 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 06:46 drazak wrote:
you mean how I have the same scummy-lurky meta whether I'm town or scum? :D


I hate it when scum turn out to be ignored lurkers.
We should lynch you d1.


I've tried to lynch him day one in every game I have played in with him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 13 2012 15:47 GMT
#212
On December 14 2012 00:40 Djodref wrote:
I couldn't resist the temptation

/in

Here I come !

Is it OK to speculate about the setup in this game ?


read the OP. it is an open setup
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 14 2012 23:48 GMT
#265
sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 14 2012 23:58 GMT
#267
On December 15 2012 08:56 Hapahauli wrote:
'sup DarthAuzzie

What do you make of MrZ's self-vote?


meaningless.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#270
I'm right here. Draz. you scum?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:05 GMT
#288
On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


Wow your an idiot.

##Vote: Djodref.

Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless.

Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous.

Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.

So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:06 GMT
#289
EBWOP:

##Vote: Djodref
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#304
anyway. In terms of the witchcraft voting. This is what I am going to do.

I am going to vote for bad townies. Then scum will have to choose between blue sniping useless townies or killing off good players who will fuck their shit up if left alone for long enough.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#307
On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game


1- you are valuing blues to highly

2- That is a ridiculous proposition

3- So you were voting someone for a plan that was impossible. But you knew that. So you are essentially voting for someone for not reading the OP?

Do you think town or scum are less likely to read the OP?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:47 GMT
#317
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:51 GMT
#320
On December 15 2012 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
DP is scum btw.

##Vote DarthPunk


care to provide some reasoning for that vote hapa?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:55 GMT
#325
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.

Source: my last three town games. and this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:02 GMT
#328
On December 15 2012 11:56 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?


They are both as likely to read the OP. But the witchcraft votes part is more likely to be read in details by the town.
It turns out that Hapa has misread the OP (his behaviors feels genuine), so my point against him was not so relevant.
Weak votes in the early game are a way to get the discussion started.

By the way, did you read the witchcraft votes part in the OP or not ? Did you do the same mistake as Hapa ?


So you were voting for a good player based on a coinflip? Is that it?

If both scum and town are just as likely to not read the op, and you vote for someone based on not reading the OP you are just randomly voting for hapa, a good town player historically, based on a 3/13 chance he is scum?

My reading/ not reading the OP is irrelevant to my alignment so I don;t feel the need to talk about that with you. especially after
mario and learning of your penchant as scu to force these kind of discussions.

How about you talk about something other than the set-up? how about you do some scumhunting. My vote will stay where it is until that happens.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:02 GMT
#329
On December 15 2012 11:59 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:52 Blazinghand wrote:
You can use one of your votes to cast a "no-one" vote. If "no-one" wins, it blocks out a spot in the election. Today there are 10 townies alive, which means you are electing three blues, which means you must cast three witchcraft votes. One of these votes may be a vote for "no-one", and if it is in the top 3 choices town will have one less blue role than usual tonight.


The OP was pretty straightforward imo.
We cannot force a 10 VT - 3 goons setup.


Stop speculating set-up now. Scumhunt or die.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:10 GMT
#333
On December 15 2012 12:02 Hapahauli wrote:
Well the problem is that DP tunneled you (Djo) without having ever even asked or cared about one of the key points he found you scummy for. DP found you initially scummy because he seemingly believed that a 10/3 setup was achievable.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


Wow your an idiot.

##Vote: Djodref.

Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless.

Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous.

Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.

So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one.


But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?


But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining...
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.

Source: my last three town games. and this game.



Lynch this sucker. He's scum.


No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all.

It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads.

I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative.

The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason.

Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario.

Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this.

##unvote

##vote: hapa

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:11 GMT
#334
On December 15 2012 12:07 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

Regarding your tunnel on Djo, do you actually believe he's scummy, or are you forcing yourself to tunnel him, or are you scum?


I thought you said it was because I was scum? stop hedging your bets scummer number one.

I am trying to figure out if djo was just being an idiot or is actually scummer number two.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:24 GMT
#340
On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons

1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics



He was voting for someone, based on nothing whatsoever. That is what I am accusing him for.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 03:30 GMT
#342
On December 15 2012 12:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Oooh this will be fun =)

Let me type up the complete rendition of the case then. In the mean-time, on to your "defense"
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:02 Hapahauli wrote:
Well the problem is that DP tunneled you (Djo) without having ever even asked or cared about one of the key points he found you scummy for. DP found you initially scummy because he seemingly believed that a 10/3 setup was achievable.
On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


Wow your an idiot.

##Vote: Djodref.

Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless.

Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous.

Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.

So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one.


But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite.
On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?


But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining...
On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.

Source: my last three town games. and this game.



Lynch this sucker. He's scum.


No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all.

It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads.

I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative.

The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason.

Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario.

Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this.

##unvote

##vote: hapa



Whining itself isn't allignment indicative. Whining when there's no reason for you to do so (i.e. one vote on you) is.

Secondly, your tunnel reads as incredibly forced. I'm pretty convinced at this point that Djo is townie. All his reactions have been very guenuine, even if his plan was bad. I find it inconceivable that you think Djo is scum at this point given the whole setup mechanic thing is now resolved.


I don;t know if he is scum. I am trying to find out. That is why I was asking him if reading the OP was alignment indicative.

And the reason I was whining with one vote is that I have been tunnelled day one in my last two town games. Your vote is one that is easily sheeped day one. And I didn't want it to happen again. Reason: It fucking sucks.

But the fact is that whining happened after you were already sure I was scum. So the whole case comes down too you didn't like the way I was pushing djo.

Well. La di da.

Your case is still trash. I think you know that as you are alluding to making a good one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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