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On December 10 2012 09:21 Clarity_nl wrote: See thrawn, I read the OP. Unlike last time. Rookie mistake. Just so we're all on the same page, for experimental purposes I'm going to be breaking day 1 down tonight, without knowing my own alignment. This means that during work (the next 8 hours) and other normal life stuff (the 3 hours after that) I won't be commenting much on the game. I'm reading the game through now. Once I'm done with tonight's reading session I'll play as normal (and check my alignment). | ||
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Anyway, I have now checked my alignment and I need to read the last few pages. | ||
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On December 11 2012 07:59 thrawn2112 wrote: palmer: I haven't watched the video yet, but didn't you realize that if we are to trust that you haven't read your role pm, then we can't make any reads based on your thoughts so far? If you don't know your alignment then how do you expect us to figure it out? Was this purely done for your own benefit/amusement or what? It's an experimental thing, has very little to do with the game and I'm perfectly aware you can't make any conclusions about my alignment from it. But the reads are genuine, so at least there's that. | ||
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@marv: Why do you not want to kill adam? right from hist first post in the thread I noticed something off about his posting, and I don't have a problem with debears's case. I also agree with clarity's case on jay. In addition I don't think Vivax is scum. I'm not sure on bugs, I need to understand how and why he's picking a fight with me. I honestly thought he knew I was going to stream but it looks like he was completely unaware, or his outburst against me would've been kinda pointless | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Perhaps, but I didn't really have any eye opening moments. I think your video benefits scum more since you were taking the perspective of a townie, meaning most of what you said aligned with my thoughts. Why do you think Vivax isn't scum? Very little reason I explained it near the end of the video, he made one comment that seemed more likely to be coming from a townie (he made a mistake regarding counterclaims and how they work). I pointed out it's slightly more likely he's made that error as town simply due to mafia more often second checking their posting. It's a weak reason and I'm not going to militantly defend him, but between adam, jay, perhaps begs, we have better targets. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:18 debears wrote: Palmar I love you right now <3 you better not be scum. | ||
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FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! | ||
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But I think I want to lynch adam. You on board with me buddy? | ||
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##Vote Adam4167 Everything about his game seems slightly off, and I think it's the better lynch between him and Jay. In fact, I think my other lynch options at this point would be WBG or Djodref (who has basically disappeared). | ||
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I think Adam slipped up right on his first post as I mentioned in the video. Let's murder him, shall we? Also I'm not sure how much I like this Tunkeg case. | ||
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I think I explained in the video why I don't like Adam's first post: On December 10 2012 09:56 Adam4167 wrote: Thrawn, I don't know you, can you link me some of your games as scum on here. Basically, it's a legit question, but it's very easy to just click on someone's profile, go to posts and find recent games. Maybe Adam's just being lazy, but this post reeks of him trying to convey to the thread that he's going to be actively looking at people. On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote: Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing. Again, I'm working on the assumption Adam isn't dumb. It's pretty clear what thrawn is doing, and trying to wonder about it is dumb and pointless. Adam is lingering way too much on a silly stunt pulled by a random person, and asking all the wrong questions. On December 10 2012 11:55 Adam4167 wrote: That's OK, you don't need to like me. Your 'case' isn't much of one, I said I don't know if hes scum or not, so why would I vote him? I feel I've been very transparent about why i'm doing what i'm doing, to try and get some semblance of a read on Thrawn for his early actions. Right now i'm putting him in the 'I don't know what the hell hes doing' category. Again, he's coming on with this idea that thrawn's actions require extensive analysis, it's very clear (to me at least) what thrawn is doing, and either it means he's scum and fucked up, or he's town and has a terrible plan-idea-thing. I concluded the latter to be the case, but adam seems really confused by something so elementary. On December 10 2012 12:45 Adam4167 wrote: He announced in thread to be voting for Thrawn, but the vote never made it into the voting thread, then he builds a case on me around not voting on someone that I had said I wasn't sure of the alignment of. Ill be watching him closely today. Not putting shit in the voting thread is not scummy at all, and hardly worth talking about. I don't know why Adam keeps obsessing about irrelevant things this game. Also "I'll be watching him closely today." made me laugh. It's just how he's saying it that gets my lynchfinger all twitchy. --- In addition to this Adam calls debears out for not voting him, which is yet another thing I find fairly irrelevant, the action of voting adds or relieves no pressure at all in this game, it's the mind behind it that does. Everything Adam has done and said this game feels careful, calculated and often irrelevant and inconclusive. He should be the lynch for today. | ||
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On December 11 2012 19:11 wherebugsgo wrote: also wtf on scumread on me Well you did do dumb shit twice now a) trying to kill thrawn for something that probably is just an idiot townie move and you know it. b) trying to kill me for doing something I think I even mentioned doing before the game, even after I told you exactly when and how I would contribute. So don't act all surprised. | ||
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On December 11 2012 19:24 wherebugsgo wrote: Bro I tried to kill you cause you were 80% scum. Bro. As for thrawn I'm just tired of stupid shit. Every game it's something new and stupider. Neither of these things is a reason to call me scum, so don't be surprised when I call you out on your bullshit. I'm not your bro dude. | ||
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On December 11 2012 19:38 thrawn2112 wrote: bleh it wasn't a "plan" or whatever everyone is making it out to be. I wanted the game to start immediately so I did something that was silly enough to comment on and the whole thing got taken way more seriously than I planned. But I didn't really care because I really do not mind being a topic of discussion, if anything it makes you more emotionally involved in the game. it was mostly a joke based on an assumption that everyone assumes everyone else reads the op and especially the role list. I was not trying to convince anyone that I was actually a miller... but people started making it into a much bigger issue than I had planned so I just went along with it for a bit to see what would happen. I have seen people posting in this thread who say i'm town but also appear confused as to what I was trying to do... (mostly nothing other than get the game going) I still dont think it was some awful, terrible play everyone is calling it but I'd rather take that up in the end game. I know this post isn't really related to the game but I'm getting a little annoyed seeing people talk about how I had a dumb townie plan when it wasn't really a 'plan' to begin with. The problem with your idea for starting the game immediately is that there is going to be a little voice in the back of everyone's head for the entire game "maybe thrawn is actually mafia and fucked up". It's happened before, scum have fucked up and claimed miller on day 1. You could have achieved the same result without creating this escape route for the mafia. If you then turn it around and play the most successful game of your life it's going to be fine. But what happens if you screw up a bit, bet on the wrong lynches, vote for the wrong people, then on day 4 in lylo or something, you're still sitting there, not dead, not having helped the town scumhunt... someone will remember your stunt from day 1, and suddenly maybe it's you who gets lynched, and we lose the game. I mean, if you're scum, this would have been a great play to exploit the fact you've not played enough games for everyone here to know you, but I honestly think you're town. The point is while your goal was an admirable one, the way you chose to achieve it created an unnecessary problem, which could have been avoided had you chosen other means to reach your goal. | ||
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