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Empire.Happy pulls out of WCG

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Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 16:37:55
October 24 2012 15:03 GMT
#1
TL;DT
After winning WCG Russia, (T)Happy has declined his slot in WCG grand finals.

speknek's translation:

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1) Like I've said before in several interviews, imo WCG has gone severely downhill the last couple of years (and I've been there 4 times now). First of all the tournament has gone from being a top eSports event for real professionals to a commercial playground where over 95% of attendees are fans/amateurs. The prize purse in in decline and each year the organization of the tournament becomes worse as well.

2) Of course, the fact that I do not wish to attend WCG is solely my own problem. I do not want to travel to a tournament that is run so poorly and likes to have players arrive 2 days in advance. This means that after you arrive, you have to mess around for at least a day. Also, for some reason, the organization always tries to stall the games/tour for as long as possible, with the first games starting early in the morning and ending in the middle of the day.

What players are supposed to do after the games, especially in a country where hardly anyone speaks English, isn't thought of. I personally cannot stand this and prefer not to endure such torture for a week. It's also worth mentioning that there's no opportunity to practice anywhere.

3) Furthermore, I admit that I don't believe that I have a significant chance of a high placement in this tournament. I've recently said how my professional career has been this last year - and those who have seen my interviews with WCG Russia know this - and that I am currently not in the right mood/state to be confident in a high placing at WCG. I'm not denying that this is my own, and only my own problem, but at the moment I cannot change anything about it.

4) So now, a conclusion to the previous paragraphs. I'm a professional eSports player, and if anyone says that it's more important to participate than it is to win, I would like to strongly disagree. The level of earnings in eSports (both wages and prizes) is not comparable to any recognized sport. Secondly, for me the term professional means that this is my job and this occupation is my main source of income. In my potential participation in the WCG Finals I only see a waste of time.

Obviously, these aren't the only reasons for my decision, but the others are personal, and I think that I have shed enough light on this matter with this statement.


TL;DR
Happy's Statement:
1. WCG has shown only regression; turned from top level competition to a big commercial area with decrease in prize pool and quality of the tournament.
2. Does not want to go because they bring people 2 days before the event; you do nothing until your matches and after you're eliminated there is nothing to do because of language barriers. (ex. How many Chinese speak English in the given area.) The schedule itself is really bad. (ex. You start playing very early morning and finish mid day)
3. Does not think he has a chance to place in the money. In the interviews he stated that he is not confident lately.
4. Does not see the benefit in just participating in it without winning it, as prize pool in eSports is not that big at the moment.
He sees that there are more negatives rather than positives in participating in this event.
Of course there are other reasons but they are his personal and he thinks that he got the point across.

Empire's Statement:
Apology to all of Happy's fans, hopefully they will all understand. They wish luck to Turuk, silver winner of WCG Russia who will be representing it.

He will be replaced by (T)Turuk
Happy will be penalized by WCG. As said by Dmitri Smit, they are currently choosing what the appropriate penalty is.
Happy and Team Empire's Statement
Source: GoodGame.ru
EDIT: srry ppls i worded it wrong. don't get mad pl0x. i was in class.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 24 2012 15:05 GMT
#2
Perfectly logical by all accounts. I feel bad that Happy wouldn't make the effort, he is a really fun Terran to watch.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
October 24 2012 15:08 GMT
#3
I wonder what 'Happy will be penalized by WCG' means since i can't see them punishing him in any way. It's not like a player has to go to an event if he doesn't want to. National qualifiers have almost nothing to do with the global finals.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 24 2012 15:09 GMT
#4
Good call by happy

Wcg doesn't seem work the effort for such poor conditions
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 24 2012 15:09 GMT
#5
Good decision. WCG has evolved into a joke.
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#6
you get a paid trip to china and complain that you have nothing to do there? well, your loss...
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#7
they will most likely ban him for future events, not that he would care.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51705 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#8
What the hell is WCG going to do to Happy? Ban him from future WCG's?
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mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#9
On October 25 2012 00:08 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder what 'Happy will be penalized by WCG' means since i can't see them punishing him in any way. It's not like a player has to go to an event if he doesn't want to. National qualifiers have almost nothing to do with the global finals.

I wonder this too. How can WCG punish anyone? And does anyone really care about said punishment?

Either way, sad to not see Happy play but totally understand.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 24 2012 15:11 GMT
#10
Very good call. WCG=shit tournament.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
October 24 2012 15:11 GMT
#11
Statement would be better without (3) and (4).
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
October 24 2012 15:13 GMT
#12
On October 25 2012 00:10 GTR wrote:
What the hell is WCG going to do to Happy? Ban him from future WCG's?


Was there any prize money from WCG Russia they can withhold?
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:23:13
October 24 2012 15:14 GMT
#13
WCG has shown "regression" because of players like Happy making the decisions they do. Take pride in representing your country like gamers used to do in the past. Stop making it about the money and how you'll actually have to interact and participate before and after the event. Many players would like the chance to experience something like this.

And people fail to realize what WCG actually is; it's the marketing arm of Samsung, and as much as it's a competition, that's always been a competing focus to the digital and commercial convention that it also is. Comparable in a way to what Blizzcon tried to do.
Skype: divito7
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
October 24 2012 15:18 GMT
#14
Whether his decision was right or wrong, WCG is being stupid for punishing him, imo. When I played Magic, there were similar tournaments called PTQ's. Winning one got you an invite to the Pro Tour. There was no problem with declining your invitation. Hell, here in Australia, you could choose the invite OR 375 dollars as your prize...though part of that was probably the airfare costs from Australia to any Pro Tour location. But declining the invite wasn't considered unethical, or even unusual.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:21:16
October 24 2012 15:20 GMT
#15
How pessimistic. Publicly calling yourself not good enough to place high and refusing to go because you'll probably be bored for a few days. Professional indeed...
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
October 24 2012 15:21 GMT
#16
We need more players like Happy ............ not
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 24 2012 15:23 GMT
#17
Can't say I disagree with the man, but still wouldn't have liked to see him play so I can root for an unset or two.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Razac
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands101 Posts
October 24 2012 15:24 GMT
#18
WTF = only thing i can say.

A list of excuses to hide the real thing we probably will never know.
www.twitch.tv/razac_
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 24 2012 15:25 GMT
#19
On October 25 2012 00:10 GTR wrote:
What the hell is WCG going to do to Happy? Ban him from future WCG's?


They could tweet that Empire.Happy actually encouraged Crank to leave Slayers and the rest will take care of itself...
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unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
October 24 2012 15:32 GMT
#20
Surely it would have increased his publicity, even if he was unable to place in the money. His name would be out there as one of the few best in the world competing at the event.

I understand his reasons though and can't really fault him on them.
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