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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
October 25 2012 23:27 GMT
#121
Lets be totally honest, does anyone actually care about who wins WCG? Maybe it's just me but WCS just seems like that tournament WCG wishes it was. The reasons Happy gave seem totally legitimate to me, it does however seem pretty untactful. You don't want to go, that's okay, but to essentially say "I don't want to go because your tournament is garbage" when a simple "personal reasons/prior commitments" would've done the job. WCG may be a poor-mans tournament now (considering it's supposed to reflect the grandeur of an international tournament), but for the last decade it was pretty much the best annual tournament for Broodwar and many other games and one of the very few (only?) esports supporters in the foreign scene. So yeah, it's a shame, at least let it die with some dignity.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 25 2012 23:29 GMT
#122
Speaking of which when is WCG?
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 23:45:00
October 25 2012 23:44 GMT
#123
On October 26 2012 08:29 Dontkillme wrote:
Speaking of which when is WCG?


And who's in it? Seriously, I read the thread 20 minutes ago and I've already forgotten Happy's replacement :S
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 25 2012 23:49 GMT
#124
Been unhappy with WCGs ways since last year as well :/
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 25 2012 23:55 GMT
#125
WCG could just say, yes we understand that the tournament is declining, we will take steps against that. Instead they just want to slap Happy on the wrist for true statements that are his right to say. WP, WCG, WP.
User was warned for too many mimes.
iRemedy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States96 Posts
October 25 2012 23:59 GMT
#126
Makes sense. As far as I can tell WCG has failed to evolve properly while all these other premier organizations have pulled ahead. With all these other tournaments going on around the same time, never thought I'd say this, but WCG has become obsolete.
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pOnarreT
Profile Joined March 2012
155 Posts
October 26 2012 00:07 GMT
#127
That's what you call a professional
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
October 26 2012 00:28 GMT
#128
Good for him. Either WCG finds a way for it to make sense to play in the tournament for the gamers that qualify or they should cease being. WCG has been devolving rather than evolving. I think it's amazing they are still around.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
October 26 2012 00:42 GMT
#129
good. WCG was good and interesting.
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
October 26 2012 01:30 GMT
#130
why would you play the wcg qualifier and then choose not to go to wcg? why didn't he just not play the qualifier?

maybe im missing something.
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 01:37:23
October 26 2012 01:37 GMT
#131
On October 26 2012 10:30 Diglett wrote:
why would you play the wcg qualifier and then choose not to go to wcg? why didn't he just not play the qualifier?

maybe im missing something.

because he got spot in ro4 final qualifier long time ago and he got money for the first place of the qualifier
are you evolving?
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
October 26 2012 01:42 GMT
#132
Good move by Happy (:
@taefoxy
lem0ncake
Profile Joined June 2012
England85 Posts
October 26 2012 01:43 GMT
#133
meh wcg is shit anyway
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
October 26 2012 09:37 GMT
#134
On October 26 2012 08:15 iNcontroL wrote:
It sucks to pull out and I do wish he would have looked into these things before competing but with how WCG doesn't give paid trips and the conditions are quite poor I do not fault him for his sentiments either.


Depends on the people hosting the qualifiers doesn't it? As I understood it, it's up to them to pay for travel.
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
October 26 2012 09:43 GMT
#135
I agree with most of what Happy says, but may as well not have participated in the prelims to begin with >.<
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 26 2012 10:09 GMT
#136
WCG was cool many years ago when it was a rare chance to see foreigners getting their asses kicked by Koreans, rooting for someone to miraculously taking a game off a pro somehow, with Tasteless rising to fame with pure energy and enthusiasm. It's been going downhill ever since with strong countries not getting enough spots, shitty cellphone games and it generally being purely a marketing event with a hint of esports.

I understand why Happy wouldn't want to attend such a tournament, but then he shouldn't have tried to qualify in the first place. Personally, I would've gladly taken a free trip to China for a little exotic holiday.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 26 2012 10:16 GMT
#137
On October 26 2012 08:27 Greendotz wrote:
Lets be totally honest, does anyone actually care about who wins WCG? Maybe it's just me but WCS just seems like that tournament WCG wishes it was. The reasons Happy gave seem totally legitimate to me, it does however seem pretty untactful. You don't want to go, that's okay, but to essentially say "I don't want to go because your tournament is garbage" when a simple "personal reasons/prior commitments" would've done the job. WCG may be a poor-mans tournament now (considering it's supposed to reflect the grandeur of an international tournament), but for the last decade it was pretty much the best annual tournament for Broodwar and many other games and one of the very few (only?) esports supporters in the foreign scene. So yeah, it's a shame, at least let it die with some dignity.

WCG is still a big deal for Koreans, representing your country is a big honor.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 26 2012 10:26 GMT
#138
Pulling out of second tier tournaments is no big deal, it happens all the time (often with much shorter notice). WCG couldn't offer a good enough package, so Happy is no longer interested in participating. He didn't have to be so brutally honest, but not everyone is born a politician.

Kinda funny that WCG is trying to act all tough about it. Good luck trying to attract the best players to the qualifiers next year if turning down a spot is "penalized".
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
December 08 2012 18:21 GMT
#139
Is happy inactive or what? dont see him on ladder anymore.
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
dog8
Profile Joined August 2012
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 22:38:55
December 10 2012 22:37 GMT
#140
i know of a uk player who has been penalized by WCG and MULTIPLAY for pulling out of playing in the wcg tournie,he qualified for it through playing in another tounie so had no choice,couldnt of said i dont want wcg or he wouldnt of got to play in the other tournie at the time
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