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Wortie
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands212 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 20:11:28
October 18 2012 18:09 GMT
#1
Hello guys,

Today there has been a broadcast of 'De Wereld Draait Door' (The world keeps on turning). A dutch talkshow and this time they featured Starcraft 2 and how it's broadcasted in barcrafts. They talked about how it's similar to people watching football in a bar.

They show LiquidHuk winning from Moon in Dreamhack and they let Ret play a little match vs Harstem, which they cast. (which is terrible, because it's in dutch and all the units names are still in english)

+ Show Spoiler +
Ret wins ofcourse.


Edit: you can watch the broadcast here: http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1297554

Altough I'm not sure if there is a country restriction on that.
SC2ToastieNL
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
October 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#2
*the world keeps on turning

It's interesting to see our passion become more and more mainstream !
But don't forget to mention, the main point of interest of the redaction was the increasing appearence of BarCrafts!
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Castor385
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands20 Posts
October 18 2012 18:15 GMT
#3
When looking at it, I realized that we are very far from going mainstream. Specifically the casted game. How is anyone going to know what is going on when they have no clue what protoss is and what zerg is? When they don't know what GG means.

The Huk moment gave me goosebumps again
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Glowbox
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands330 Posts
October 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#4
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
October 18 2012 18:19 GMT
#5
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 18 2012 18:21 GMT
#6
Lol, out of all the things they can showcase they show harstem with an immortal sentry allin getting slapped down :p

Poor harstem...was really cool nonetheless!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 18:24:15
October 18 2012 18:22 GMT
#7
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?

I thought it was well done for ten minutes of air time.

On October 19 2012 03:19 Roybs wrote:
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D

Barcrafts seem like a good subject because everyone understands drinking in a bar to watch sports.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 18:28:33
October 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#8
well, i think explaining about the game makes it yust to unapealing for their broad audince, since the people who watch it aren't one group of people, its like the family thing to watch.

it would make only sense to show the thing people do with it instead of the game

edit: 8 dutch people in a row lol
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
October 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#9
On October 19 2012 03:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?

I thought it was well done for ten minutes of air time.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:19 Roybs wrote:
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D

Barcrafts seem like a good subject because everyone understands drinking in a bar to watch sports.

Yeah I understand why they did it about barcrafts, but as the lady said; I don't know what's going on now. I agree they did a great job at explaining SC2 to the best of their time limit.
Kikiwoelmuis <3
SC2ToastieNL
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
October 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#10
On October 19 2012 03:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?

I thought it was well done for ten minutes of air time.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:19 Roybs wrote:
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D

Barcrafts seem like a good subject because everyone understands drinking in a bar to watch sports.

The problem in this broadcast however was the 'grand finale', the game itself, was lacking.

The three persons over there (of whom I'd like to know their nicknames) continuously spoke of the ruleset and basics you need to know you can understand what is actually happening in the game. Afterwards, the show proceeds to throw is in the middle of a game, in which the 'unexperienced' audience had NO IDEA what the HELL is going on, just to hear some sounds, see purply things gobble up golden dudes and that's it. No explanation, because they took like 10 seconds to let the caster explain the entire game/scenario/matchup/situation.

Poor planning/execution on DWDD's part, probably killing one of the chances of SC2 growing bigger by giving a terrible representation of what it is actually all about - the game itself.

Also, broodlord infestor vs Stalker/Collosus would be way more interesting to watch from a viewers POV than some forcefields and a 1a with roaches.

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McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
October 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#11
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.


I only saw like 4 negative tweets, no possitive tweets tho. But thats expected. Hopefully it opened some eyes in Holland, to all the narrow minded people =)

Finally some possitive attention for Gaming. Normally it's only negative bullshit, and people talking about the subject who got no idea what they're talking about.

Glad i could show this to my friends and parents. No they know whats it's all about
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SpadeAce
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands100 Posts
October 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#12
On October 19 2012 03:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?

I thought it was well done for ten minutes of air time.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:19 Roybs wrote:
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D

Barcrafts seem like a good subject because everyone understands drinking in a bar to watch sports.


There were a few, but not alot, negative tweets about stereotype gamers, which is to be expected when you show e-sports in a mainstream tv show. Nothing to shocking imo.
SC2ToastieNL
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
October 18 2012 18:32 GMT
#13
On October 19 2012 03:28 sabas123 wrote:edit: 8 dutch people in a row lol

Because probably nobody else cares about Dutch tellie

On October 19 2012 03:30 Roybs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?

I thought it was well done for ten minutes of air time.

On October 19 2012 03:19 Roybs wrote:
Well, they should've let them explain a bit about the game itself instead of the barcraft items and stuff. But still, I agree that this isn't a subject for like roughly 10 minutes, but for 30 minutes or something.

Was nice though, watched it with my parents, they now have a better view on why I try to explain to them why I want to stay up to watch a bit of MLG :D

Barcrafts seem like a good subject because everyone understands drinking in a bar to watch sports.

I agree they did a great job at explaining SC2 to the best of their time limit.

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SC2ToastieNL
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 18:37:12
October 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#14
I found 3 negative tweets about SC2 on Twitter. Translated:

- Nerd thinking normal people actually care for their nerdy stuff

- It's just like a soccermatch, just with a lot of inhalers and acne

- Of last 15 minutes of DWDD I understood exactly one sentence: 'What is actually happening now'? (coming back to my complaints of the game not actually being shown)

So. Well. 2 stereotype morons and a true complaint.

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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 18 2012 18:42 GMT
#15
I don't think the negative tweets are a surprise. Have you seen the comments on a gamespot esports story? It's just as bad and that's gamers hating on other gamers, so hate for gamers from general public isn't shocking.
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SC2ToastieNL
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
October 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#16
I dislike how closeminded mankind tends to be ;-)
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Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 18:49:12
October 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#17
This one is pretty epic:


Translated: 'Tomorrow we will watch how a plant grows... as it will be more exciting than this starcraft 2 stuff at DWDD'

All in all it was a nice item, it's a shame Ret and Harstem didn't get to say anything though. And I think they focused a bit too much on how it is big in Korea, even though SC2 is quite big in other countries like US and Sweden.

It was also pretty funny that they told people to follow @liquidret in dutch.
Drorctopus
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands135 Posts
October 18 2012 18:44 GMT
#18
On October 19 2012 03:36 SC2ToastieNL wrote:
I found 3 negative tweets about SC2 on Twitter. Translated:

- Nerd thinking normal people actually care for their nerdy stuff

- It's just like a soccermatch, just with a lot of inhalers and acne

- Of last 15 minutes of DWDD I understood exactly one sentence: 'What is actually happening now'? (coming back to my complaints of the game not actually being shown)

So. Well. 2 stereotype morons and a true complaint.



Those first 2 tweets kind of pissed me off. The moment we say something bad about their interest, then they will probably rage hard.
Glowbox
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 18:52:55
October 18 2012 18:49 GMT
#19
On October 19 2012 03:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 03:17 Glowbox wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen such negative twitter reactions to an item in DWDD. The huk moment was nice though.

Do you have some examples?


I just checked the tweets for #dwdd (not just top tweets, click 'All') during the actual broadcast. Most can be summarized as 'nerds #dwdd'. See https://twitter.com/search?q=#dwdd nerds&src=typd for a few of those reactions.

I guess there's always gonna be people complaining or being close minded. Some people were surprisingly positive. As a Starcraft fan I might've taken the negative comments a little too personal.
Poehalcho
Profile Joined October 2011
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 19:05:43
October 18 2012 18:51 GMT
#20
Here's the episode:
http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1297554

skip to 19:20
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