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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 24 2012 19:31 GMT
#9
/in
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 24 2012 21:58 GMT
#16
On September 25 2012 06:39 grush57 wrote:
It's not even like I troll..
Oh well.

My own STARSENSESSSS tell me otherwise.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 02:48 GMT
#69
On September 30 2012 11:20 Shady Sands wrote:
/in

I am going to play like a troll this game.

You have all been warned.


unwise
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:16 GMT
#80
Well this started off quicker than I expected.
Sup guys!

##Vote Shady Sands
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:32 GMT
#91
Oh god.
Is there anyways I can mega-vote him?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:32 GMT
#92
On September 30 2012 13:31 Keirathi wrote:
Yea, okay I don't want to read that all game.

Why did you let him in again, DrH?


this
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:52 GMT
#100
I think someone has some real issues.
Does liquid city have a psych ward?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:56 GMT
#102
EBWOP: sniped.. got it

Shiaopi I feel for you
LVII was a tragedy that should never happen again.

Hope kush doesn't follow the same path he chose the game he just came out of.

So now I guess this game can have a proper start then.
Sup guys!

##Unvote
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 30 2012 04:59 GMT
#106
EBWOP sniped again rofl
I don't like trolls and want them to die. That's about it.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 03:42 GMT
#231
I don't get why people are thinking his trolliness is scummy. He mentioned he was gonna be a troll before he got his role PM.
His "all is as was planned" reaction afterwards is the most ridiculous thing he's ever posted imo and just makes me want to punch him.

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2012 13:54 Shady Sands wrote:
Yes! Thank goodness the gambit worked.

The whole plan was either to troll hard and have some fun, or enjoy a serious, non-troll game of Mafia by inciting the mod to explicitly threaten a modkill for trolling and scare all the trolls into the straight and narrow.

Shiao, you can thank me after the game is over. With that being said, I find the easy rando-vote at the beginning highly suspicious.

## Unvote
## Vote Z-Boson

Explain your rando-vote without trolling as a factor.



I don't see how that's scum-motivated, I'd like someone to explain this to me. At best, it makes him a snot I want to punch. Coags latest post however:

On October 01 2012 11:17 Coagulation wrote:
Im content with lynching Shady Sands.

Does anyone have a better person to lynch at this point? I havnt seen anyone that screams scum aside from shady... gotta work with what we got.


Strikes me as much scummier. He didn't feel the need to say why SS seems scummy, as if it were crystal clear as to why he is scum.

I also don't like that kingjames fellow. His posts are almost all useless, and don't add basically anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 01 2012 03:17 kingjames01 wrote:
If we want lurkers to post more, then we all have to contribute meaningfully. This will force scum to come out of hiding in order to fit in. They're going to try to post from the perspective that they're Town but it's pretty hard to do so.

At that point we can work on who actually cares about scum hunting and who is just pretending.



On October 01 2012 01:33 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 01:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:17 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:15 Keirathi wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:12 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:06 Keirathi wrote:
@KJ:

Can you tell me what is scummy about that post of mine you quoted? I mean, its one thing to say something is scummy, but you didn't give any reasoning.


At the time, within the context of the game, it just seemed contrived. I read it as a mafia who was trying to sound Town. I'm not saying that you're mafia, just that the post sounded that way.


Contrived? I have a shared history with Shady, and I wanted him to man up and play like I know that he's capable of, rather than like an ass.


There's no need to be defensive. I said that the post seemed contrived, not that it was.

Them why did you say it was contrived what was the point?


What? I didn't say that it was contrived. I said it seemed contrived. The point was that it seemed contrived.




And his "interrogation" of shady sands, which I don't clearly see the purpose of:

On October 01 2012 11:39 kingjames01 wrote:
So what we're shifting towards is whether Shady's 'plan' to preempt trolling was legitimate or a cover-up?

That should not be the focus of our first day. Instead, I'd like Shady to come back to the thread and give us something more concrete.


Shady: what do you think about the assertion that I was being wishy-washy? Also, tell us if you have a spy read on anyone yet, who and why.



One more thing that I don't like is VisceraEyes's case history. Spends a billion posts tunneling annul, based on a "trying to spot clues" (?) read. Then suddenly feels that his emotions got the better of him, and reconsiders. Which is funny, because VE started the attacks. It's not like he was attacked and got emotinal.

-snip- At this point I'm null - I got a false read on him early on, and while I think his anger at me seems a little contrived, I know I've overreacted once or twice to people calling my posts stupid or something. Once that I remember for sure. Maybe twice.

I've seen him play scum. He's pretty terrifying and that may have biased my read earlier.


Then in this post:

On October 01 2012 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
@slOosh
Shady is an intelligent guy. Poor play isn't something I'd use to write Shady off. I mean, he's not super awesome like me, but he's good enough to know that what he's doing is newb shit which means it has to be intentional. And while it's possible that he's being straight up with the whole "Oh you know, I wanted to martyr myself to the mod as an example", I tend to think that he's just trying get out of hot water before he's in it, so to speak...which is a scum trait.

In fact,

##Vote: ShadySands

Going MIA after making shitty accusations and troll entrance is like...strike three for me.

@Everyone else

I find nothing scummy about KJ's input on scumhunting in an inactivish environment. If that's all he's got, then we'll talk. As it stands though, that one singular post is better than the several who haven't posted at all.

That being said, the whole "seemed contrived/was contrived" nonsense does need clarification.

@KJ
"...seemed contrived" is the same thing as "was contrived" in the context of analyzing behavior. If you're town, then if something "seems contrived" then that's suspicious because townies have no reason to fake it. Saying something that X said "seems contrived" means the same thing as "It looks to me like X is faking his reaction" - do you not understand how someone would get defensive about that? And then trying to paint it scummy (Y U DEFENSIVE) on top of that makes it seem like you're trying to set him up.

Ultimately, you're after meaningful contribution and you have provided none. There's stuff going on in the game worth commenting on, and presently you're not.

I'm willing to lynch into ShadySands, kingjames01 as it stands. We really need more content from everyone though.


He finally addresses shady sands and proposes to vote on him. Now look at how he addresses kingjames. In this same post, he goes from a "not a scum read", to a "someone I want dead". At first I thought it was understandable because he was referring specifically to KJ's input on scumhunting in an inactivish environment.
However, it's the bolded underlined part that gets to me.
What I understood here is that if KJ only had the one post, he would be better than those who haven't posted at all. But then he goes to say that KJ is not commenting on stuff going on in the game (when, ironically, he himself had only just addressed shady sands, which is the first big issue) plus a bunch of other confusing stuff I don't follow, thus putting KJ as a bigger scum read than the rest.
I'd like him to clarify this.

This concludes the people I don't like so far. Out of those, VE seems the scummiest to me, because his play doesn't make sense for me from a town perspective, his conflict with annul seemed too fake.

##FOS VE

Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 04:41 GMT
#247
On October 01 2012 13:20 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 13:17 Shady Sands wrote:
In response to trolling: I think people are drastically overblowing the following post:

The whole plan was either to troll hard and have some fun, or enjoy a serious, non-troll game of Mafia by inciting the mod to explicitly threaten a modkill for trolling and scare all the trolls into the straight and narrow.


How is that a lie, Marv? I explicitly said I was trolling even though on the very first page DrH told GRush to eff off for presumed trolliness. I knew this was going to get me a high chance of being modkilled. But given that there are people who are possibly smurfing for others here, there's still a risk that trolls are here, so I wanted to play that way to make sure no one dared to troll... or at least I could abuse tolerance for trolls to the same extent as others.

Now reading through filters


OH OK Man thanks for saving us from the trolls. SO BRAVE.

Lynch him. and then lynch the shit out of z-boson when he flips scum.


Oh, ok, so it's so obvious that shady is scum, that whoever doesn't agree, is scum?
Right.
Since it's so obvious, let's hear it.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 04:44 GMT
#249
As a matter of fact, I think that's actually laughable. If I were scum like hell I'd want to put my neck out for a troll snot. I don't think he's scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#253
On October 01 2012 13:44 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 13:41 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 01 2012 13:20 Coagulation wrote:
On October 01 2012 13:17 Shady Sands wrote:
In response to trolling: I think people are drastically overblowing the following post:

The whole plan was either to troll hard and have some fun, or enjoy a serious, non-troll game of Mafia by inciting the mod to explicitly threaten a modkill for trolling and scare all the trolls into the straight and narrow.


How is that a lie, Marv? I explicitly said I was trolling even though on the very first page DrH told GRush to eff off for presumed trolliness. I knew this was going to get me a high chance of being modkilled. But given that there are people who are possibly smurfing for others here, there's still a risk that trolls are here, so I wanted to play that way to make sure no one dared to troll... or at least I could abuse tolerance for trolls to the same extent as others.

Now reading through filters


OH OK Man thanks for saving us from the trolls. SO BRAVE.

Lynch him. and then lynch the shit out of z-boson when he flips scum.


Oh, ok, so it's so obvious that shady is scum, that whoever doesn't agree, is scum?
Right.
Since it's so obvious, let's hear it.

You were the first to vote him for his trolling. Why don't you explain why you changed your mind from it being enough that you wanted to "mega-vote" him, into it not being scummy at all?


That's because he stopped trolling. My vote on him was more of a "omfg stfu!" than a "he is scum". FFS, the man said he was gonna troll before he got his role.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 04:47 GMT
#254
On October 01 2012 13:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 13:44 Z-BosoN wrote:
As a matter of fact, I think that's actually laughable. If I were scum like hell I'd want to put my neck out for a troll snot. I don't think he's scum.

Oh, so you're another person that's content with lynching townies over finding actual scum. Gotcha.

Hmm? Not following. Read my case on VE?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 05:30 GMT
#261
##FoS Coagulation
Shitty one-liners and refuses to explain anything. Either very arrogant or wants to pretend he is actually contributing.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 13:27 GMT
#287
I don't know coag, and I don't know VE.
On coag, its a pity that's how he plays then, I hate ppl like that. Hope seeing his brilliant play in day 2.
I still don't like how VE attacked annul though, but given this was the beggining of day one I don't necessarily think that part is scum motivated. I'd like him to be clearer on KJ, though.
Risk, yea you should read my post, I specifically addressed that.
Marv, I just don't feel that way. Shady usually comes off scummy as shit no matter his alignment, so I don't think that is enough to push a lynch.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#294
Dude, you referred to a specific part that I mentioned. Do you want me to quote it for you? My main concern is how he took the tone of putting him above other posters, and then went ahead to give a confusing case on KJ and stating he wants him to be lynched, but doesn't take a stance and just keeps it at a "I'd go with his lynch". I also don't like how he criticized KJ for for not commenting on the main aspects of the game when he himself had just bothered dealing with Ss case, after a long time tunneling annul for a petty reason (imo).
Node seems to disagree with you, on the bolded part.
@marv
Yea his not making a single case yet with no followup for his vote on me is definitely suspicious. In XXIV he was all over the place. I don't like how most of the votes on him are based solely on the trolliness, which is an entirely different saspect.
Kush is another player that is heavily scummy, and he has a very hard time making cases when he's scum, so I'd rather wait a bit before taking a stance on him.
I don't like, however, how sharrant dealt with why ss isn't scummy, especially his explanation on how it could be town/scum motivated. My view is just that he has some issues and thought it would be funny, and in his embarassment he posted a ridiculous "according to plan" follow up that increased his ridiculousness, and tthats iT, nothing more. What happens after is an entirely different matter, but not why ppl are wanting to lynch him for.
God, typing on my cellphone takes forever
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 19:45 GMT
#355
I'm not too sure on kingjames. I can see his play coming from a noob townie. I dislike VE's play more, though. Perhaps I'm not used to his style, but now that talismania also found him scummy I guess I'm not being too unreasonable in thinking this.
##Vote VisceraEyes
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 20:27 GMT
#365
@VE
I hadn't seen your reply to my post, so I thought you basically had taken the same path as coag.
I'm fine with your explanations, I just found it weird how you started the thread off by attacking annul.

After reading the last two pages, I'm definitely more inclined for a KJ vote now, especially in light of his reactions after he's getting close to being lynched.

His case against Mementoss is the laziest one I've seen yet. ("he doesn't care about town win condition"). Ironically, dismisses austin's vote as silly, when his own doesn't have a "real reason".
He posted some lame excuse (aka resistance forum) for not being around.
And finally, instead of commenting on the current cases and actually to scumhunt before he dies he spends his time tallying up a vote count. Classic fluff.

So, after proper reading I've had a change of heart.
##Unvote
##Vote kingjames01
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 01 2012 20:32 GMT
#367
On October 02 2012 01:33 Risen wrote:
Oh, and if Z-Boson was just trying to get a reaction he would have rode the shit out of Shady like I rode prplhz. It's fine to be telling people how they can post more towny, because in the end scum is going to have to contradict themselves somewhere and their scumhunting is going to get called out, but just dropping the pressure you started and saying "oh hey game can start woo!

That's just so scummy to me.

I don't see that as scummy. Like I said before, my vote was more of a STFU rather than a "I want to lynch Shady Sands because I think he's scum because trolling is anti-town"

However, at the moment I'm becoming more suspicious on Shady Sands due to his lack of follow-up. When he feels pressured he posts a lot more, right now he's just gone AWOL. He's promised cases and disappeared with them. Very odd.
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