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http://geneticroulettemovie.com/
When the US government ignored repeated warnings by its own scientists and allowed untested genetically modified (GM) crops into our environment and food supply, it was a gamble of unprecedented proportions. The health of all living things and all future generations were put at risk by an infant technology.
After two decades, physicians and scientists have uncovered a grave trend. The same serious health problems found in lab animals, livestock, and pets that have been fed GM foods are now on the rise in the US population. And when people and animals stop eating genetically modified organisms (GMOs), their health improves.
This seminal documentary provides compelling evidence to help explain the deteriorating health of Americans, especially among children, and offers a recipe for protecting ourselves and our future.
If you won't answer my pm and tell my why you closed my thread I will keep posting it. Assuming you made a mistake  .
Don't post without watching. If you aren't interested then don't spread your ignorance it just makes you look dumber than you already are. Like people saying weed is bad for you however they never smoked it before.
Have a open mind and you might learn something.
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Is there an actual study we can read? I prefer my documentaries to feature Matt Damon (Inside Job was a slam dunk bro!) -without him I'd rather read boring, old-fashioned science.
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On September 22 2012 05:11 remedium wrote:
Is there an actual study we can read? I prefer my documentaries to feature Matt Damon (Inside Job was a slam dunk bro!), without him I'd rather read boring, old-fashioned science.
I second this. Documentaries are broken and will almost always be biased towards certain opinions and are hard to disprove because the sources of information are not easily available. In a peer reviewed paper /study you can more easily find flaws and similar.
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On September 22 2012 05:11 remedium wrote:
Is there an actual study we can read? I prefer my documentaries to feature Matt Damon (Inside Job was a slam dunk bro!) -without him I'd rather read boring, old-fashioned science.
exactly my thoughts, Do you think its a coincidence that there are several studies inf favor of gmos but only mainstream books and movies against it? yeah right, sometimes some weird organisation pays someone to make a studie under idiotic circumstances...
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I already feel sorry for my future kids.
*I know this kind of thread was closed before, but I have wasted like 20 minutes writing so it justifies a warning, at least in my eyes. Thank you for your time, I apologize for making your job a bit harder*
I don't know about the rest of you guys but I am old enough to remember how real tomatoes tastes like. To quote a nice guy "I have tasted a lot of tomatoes in my life. I even grew my fair share of tomatoes. You can believe me when I'm saying that whatever you are buying at your local supermarket are not tomatoes. It's just some red fruits with aroma of tomatoes. You can trust me because I'm a peasant."
Now on a serious note, so far I've noted a drastic change in tomatoes, bananas, oranges, and apples. All of them are modified so their texture is more woody, and watery due to needs for extended shelf life and resistance to shock to reduce transport loss. Also their sugar content and aroma is reduced a lot due to artificial fertilizer and fast production pump to get up to 2-3 extra production cycles during season (for vegetables at least).
I live in a temperate climate, so I don't know about oranges and bananas, old tomatoes are already dead, every grower gets the same seeds now from his local seed shop. Apple plantations are already replaces in large farms, and old apples are only available in random countryside backyards.
Trees are actually a lot harder to replace in private yards, because of the way they are grown. You don't stick seeds into ground, wait for trees to bosom and gather fruit because that's a average 4 year gamble with low chances of getting the fruits you want.
What you actually do, you take a sprout from the tree that carries the fruits you want and you stick it in a surrogate trunk and root. Thus the root actually supports the desired fruit. But this technique is slowly dying for private planters along with those that practice it. Pretty soon it will only be practiced by agricultural engineers and guess what 2 years tree saplings will they be selling in agro-shops.
As far as cereal production, that was already fully replaced in early 90`s, I know that 100% because that's when random people kept showing in my grandpa's village offering free (!?!) wheat, barley, corn and such seeds for spring&autumn planting
Even if 90% of the people refused the seeds, dude to co-pollination the original strain of seeds were lost.
Back to fun tone. Enjoy your salad you vegans. Fun tone ended.
The future is already grim. You don't need a scientific community to tell you that plants are genetic modified. Just put yourself in corporate shoes and think. When you are producing thousand of tones of food, and you have hundred of tons of your products lost in transport or shelf, what would you do? Hang on moral high ground and get slowly pushed out of business by more ruthless producers or resort to genetic modified crops to increase your production and lifetime of your crops even if it means getting around a few laws?
TL;DR
Crops are already modified and it is too late to save something, no matter what you do.
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Another GM crop post within a week, last one was closed, whats up all of a sudden?
OP even hints at being a martyr lol.
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On September 22 2012 05:18 Zooper31 wrote:
Another GM crop post within a week, last one was closed.
And this one isn't even published in a scientific journal. I wrote a very detailed criticism about the last one, not even gonna bother about this one.
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The FDA says your opinion is bullshit.
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On September 22 2012 05:11 remedium wrote:
Is there an actual study we can read? I prefer my documentaries to feature Matt Damon (Inside Job was a slam dunk bro!) -without him I'd rather read boring, old-fashioned science.
There is actually some french study which came to the same conclusion as the docu. You could try to google "rats, crop, Monsanto". I am sure you will find it somewhere. It is said, that the study has some methodological flaws, but it's conclusion shouldn't be dismissed completely.
I am by no means an expert, but I am pretty sure that there are some problems with this genetic engineered food. One of the problems I see is that nobody needs to do long term studies before they throw their stuff on the market, thus nobody knows about possible long term effects.
Even if these studies are done, they are done by the same company who wants to get its product on the market. There is a clear conflict of interest and nobody seems interested in solving it. This problematic approach led to the intoxication of toddlers with contergan in Germany some decades ago. The exact same mechanism is a general problem with Monsanto and co.
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On September 22 2012 05:24 AngryMag wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 05:11 remedium wrote:
Is there an actual study we can read? I prefer my documentaries to feature Matt Damon (Inside Job was a slam dunk bro!) -without him I'd rather read boring, old-fashioned science. There is actually some french study which came to the same conclusion as the docu. You could try to google "rats, crop, Monsanto". I am sure you will find it somewhere. It is said, that the study has some methodological flaws, but it's conclusion shouldn't be dismissed completely. I am by no means an expert, but I am pretty sure that there are some problems with this genetic engineered food. One of the problems I see is that nobody needs to do long term studies before they throw their stuff on the market, thus nobody knows about possible long term effects. Even if these studies are done, they are done by the same company who wants to get its product on the market. There is a clear conflict of interest and nobody seems interested in solving it. This problematic approach led to the intoxication of toddlers with contergan in Germany some decades ago. The exact same mechanism is a general problem with Monsanto and co.
Ya, that study was hilariously bad.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370144¤tpage=5#87
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The people who complain the most about gm crops... know the least about gm crops.
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