EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXVI
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Will we know WHICH of the roles are in play or could it be any number of any of those roles? | ||
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On September 01 2012 12:58 Blazinghand wrote: Roles look standard and simple to me There are ELEVEN roles. IRL mafia games I played there are only 3 roles. Also 3 of the roles make cops totally unreliable... Cop is basically a useless role. For all the cop knows, all 3 mafias could be godfathers, and all the townies could be millers. He doesn't know what roles are in play or how many, therefore any information he gets is totally unreliable. | ||
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On September 01 2012 16:59 drazak wrote: er, as far as I know there can only be one each of each unique role, so only 2 possible wrong cop checks. In addition, likely the mods won't screw us too bad, and will probably have a decent amount of roles, not all 11. Nope. There can be as many of each role as mods want. I mean I kind of see its purpose because it makes it harder to win with roles and forces the town to root out scum in the thread, like what thrawn said. | ||
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Last game everyone was like we NEED to lynch someone, and we ended up lynching WeeTee, an innocent! I love all my townies and I don't want to kill any. | ||
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On September 02 2012 15:19 KillingTime wrote: Good Morning All, (and Glhf). It has been a bit of a wait but it's nice to be getting started. I don't think no-lynch is a good idea - at the very least a lynch discussion generates some substantive posts that can be analysed later. Without a lynch discussion we will have a tougher time D2, because policy/activity/setup chatter is pretty much a Null read.And ofc, we are aiming to hit scum... okok I get it... about a thousand people explain to me why my idea is bad. Mafia thinks to themselves, "hmm here is something obvious I can post about that wont make me look suspicious." | ||
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On September 02 2012 15:39 JacobStrangelove wrote: Erm one thing I will ask though is how do you quote and keep the name of the person you are quoting? Such as "On September 02 2012 15:19 KillingTime wrote:" Didn't you already do it here? On September 02 2012 12:48 JacobStrangelove wrote: To lynch or not to lynch that is the question! But lynching does give information which is something that is normally lacking in the first day. If we didn't lynch then the second day would be much like the first (confusion etc..) But I was watching last game so I know what you mean. Besides the town with bad arguments or the ones that don't post normally get lynched first (or the ones that panic which is understandable) so it's not like we lose a really valuable analyst if we lynch first day. | ||
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On September 02 2012 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote: Your point? Are you saying that you are suspicious of KillingTime's post? 3 =/= 1,000,000 and how can you not expect at least that many people to respond to your no-lynch idea especially considering there's nothing else to talk about except lurker policy? I'd hoped that you'd taken a lesson from XXV and eased off from making inflammatory and impulsive posts. There is a big difference between lurker policy and my question. My question had an obvious answer everyone agrees on (including me now). Lurker policy is actually something that is relevant because not everyone agrees on it. | ||
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Post is really empty. If no one else comes along in 36ish hours I would be down with lynching him. Really premature vote, I know but I'm going to sleep for like 15 hours so it's going to be a while. On September 02 2012 17:53 Kreb wrote: About D1 lynching, from what I've guessed so far its indeed a good idea to lynch lurkers. Then he uses 3 sentences to explain why lurkers are bad even though they are not necessarily mafia, a completely obvious idea. So his whole lurker policy is "it's a good idea to lynch lurkers." I have news for you kreb, a total lurker will be modkilled since you have to post at least once a day. The most lurkerish person we have to deal with is 1 post a day. Speaking of 1 post a day, Gonna have a look through some peoples posting histories later on when we get closer to the deadline and more people has posted to see if theres any chance to find hte slightest read on who could be a scum. You do realize the deadline is very far? A day is 48 hours not 24. Damn guys town is fine. In 30 hours Kreb is going to check SOME filters for a CHANCE to find the SLIGHTEST read. | ||
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On September 02 2012 18:29 thrawn2112 wrote: Oh and ##FOS Hank Hill. 3 people were already at Strickland Propane and Hank being late to work, or even being the 4th person to show up is not at all in line with Hank's moral character. Dude are you in love with King of the Hill or what? This is your 4th reference to it and second post with nothing more than a reference. Stop clogging your filter because I'm going to have to read it a lot since I already kind of suspect you. | ||
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On September 02 2012 19:08 thrawn2112 wrote: Do you suspect me because of the references or is there another reason? I'm automatically extra suspicious of you because I think it would be very easy for mafia to hide behind your careful, intellectual playstyle. On another note, we are still awaiting first posts from WeeTee, Kville, and Stutters695. | ||
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We have some serious lurker issues this game. Kville is about as lurker as you can get. @WeeTee and drazak, thanks guys for that killer analysis about why a no lynch d1 is a bad idea. I already heard it like 3 or 4 times but you two saying the same exact thing really brought it home. Then we have Cubu, who may not be the lurkerest lurker, but to me is the most suspicious. I don't think enough attention has been paid to this post, in which Cubu gives us a lecture on probability: On September 03 2012 00:37 Cubu wrote: I was thinking, what if the mafias are staying quiet to avoid attention to themselves. Maybe, those lurkers are infact the mafia and are trying to just let the others kill each other. There are 12 people playing and 4 mafias (or was it 3?). The fact of the matter is that we have no clues in the first day. So no matter how much we think about it, its all random. Lets kill A, no lets kill B, makes no difference in terms of probability. Of course the chance is in favour of the mafia, because they are the minority. 3/12 = 25% in a random choice. That is 25% chance of randomly lynching the mafia on the first day, which means 75% chance of lynching the townie. I'm thinking the mafia is just waiting for people to accuse each other while they stay silent, away from the accusations, away from the townies attention. So overall, there is 25% chance of someone being mafia, but if we are not thinking about all 12 to kill (i.e a discussion involving severall loudmouths accusing and defending each other while the mafia are quietly taking their time) it isn't really 25% but infact 0. 1 I don't buy that he doesn't know how many mafia there are. Especially since he uses 3 in all his subsequent equations. 2 Whenever someone starts talking about the math I get suspicious. It's a way to write a lot without revealing anything but the universal laws of nature. 3 Admittedly his last sentence does seem kind of town. I think his take home point is that we shouldn't all accuse each other and let mafia lurk. But that is not really what's going on so far. There has been slight suspicion of non lurkers, but most of the attention has been directed towards accusing the lurkers and trying to get them to defend themselves. I think a mafia Cubu may be using this reasoning as a way to appear like he is contributing. So far I think he is our best lynch, even though we have bigger lurkers. ##vote Cubu And yeah grandma thrawn I put it in the voting thread too. | ||
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On September 03 2012 08:44 thrawn2112 wrote: Do you have any scum reads on the active players? Right now I'm looking at jacob: Jacob, sonic, and killing are like a triumvirate of nullness. I don't have a good feel for any of them and can't distinguish one from another in my head. They accuse each other, which seems funny to me because they all act alike. But yeah null reads on those three until I get to know them better. And Cubu responded.. On September 03 2012 11:44 Cubu wrote: guys, before you lynch me, how about we go on with the plan of lynching the lurkers? You may have posted a few times but you have contributed nothing, which makes you a lurker. The only person who is a bigger lurker is kville. We are waiting on a post from him later which he promised and we will see what that looks like. lol @WeeTee On September 03 2012 09:05 WeeTee wrote: anddd kush and thrawn are here! If you guys were a scum team I'd facepalm We would make an epic scumteam. inb4 WeeTee is third scum and his statement was a reverse psychology mindfuck. | ||
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I want to lynch cubu as my first choice, which is why he currently has my vote. Other people I would be comfortable with lynching at this point are drazak or kville. | ||
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Even if they aren't mafia they are solid policy lynches. Now the question is which one. Kville is the bigger lurker, but I think there is a higher possibility for cubu to actually be mafia. Honestly cubu probably isn't mafia either, just because I think mafia would put more effort into their posts. Lynching one of these guys is better than lynching someone who is active though. So my vote is still on cubu. | ||
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