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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 14:06:56
May 15 2012 21:23 GMT
#1
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2012 OnGameNet StarLeague Ro16 Day 2
16th May 10:30 GMT (+00:00)



Got questions about the OSL? Read the the Ultimate OSL FAQ


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Set 1: (T)Flash < Neo Electric Circuit > (Z)Action
Flash is 9-0 this season against zergs and 4-1 on Neo Electric Circuit (3-0 against zergs), Action is 6-1 against terrans and 0-2 on the same map (didn't play against terrans). However team kills are always very difficult to predict. Action's form coming out of the playoffs as well as his performance in the ODT was solid and produced very good games. However Flash is still favored going into this match up, hoping for a good long drawn out macro game, but predicting that Action will probably try to break out of his Macro-hive-defiler mentality to surprise flash with a lurker or speedling timing.
Set 2: (T)Fantasy < Gladiator > (P)mini
Fantasy is 4-0 against Protoss' this season and 7-2 on gladiator (2-1 against toss). Mini's only win against terran came from a proxy cheese and has never played on gladiator in televised games. Knowing fantasy's practice mentality and history of being one of the very few terrans capable of winning against any protoss style or timing, he's definitely favored going into this game. The only thing in going in mini's favor is his momentum coming into the game as well as his obscurity, fantasy's vs toss style has always been a combination of vulture and dropship play with heavy management in the late game, where as mini has never demonstrated his vT strategy. Gladiator is a map with an extremely open center which lends itself to many different ways for the protoss to pincer, backstab, or surround the terran mech army while it's moving out, but fantasy has always demonstrated that he is capable of controlling the map and denying the protoss the ability to comfortably clear mines and thus deny any such technical maneuvers. If mini wants to win he needs to hit fantasy at a mid game timing before he sets up his third as the terran needs to be heavily entrenched across two ramps to make that happen. If it goes to late game fantasy is heavily favored.
Set 3: (Z)hyvaa < New Sniper Ridge > (Z)Shine
How Hyvaa and Shine consistently upset S class players is always something that fascinated me, this will most likely be the least anticipated match of the night given that it's a ZvZ as well as having the players that knocked JD / Bisu out of OSL runs. That being said both players have defeated the likes of Jaedong and Soulkey to get into the Ro16, and Shine actually boasts a >60% ZvZ win rate which might be surprising. The changes to new sniper ridge don't affect this match up significantly, given the volatility of the match up this is a hard prediction to make. Hyvaa is 0-2 on sniper ridge with a loss against Effort, and Hyvaa has never played on it. I'm just going to call Shine wins by a speedling timing while Hyvaa tries to do something fancy like his first game vs Roro in the ODT.
Set 4: (Z)SoO < Neo Ground Zero > (P)Stork
Soo is 4-2 against protoss' and 1-1 on Ground Zero (non against protoss), Stork is 5-1 against Zerg and 2-2 on Ground Zero (1-1 against zerg). The changes to the map is a direct nerf to close third zerg play which means that the mid game is going to be riding on the zerg securing another corner gas expansion and the protoss trying to bust it. Stork should be favored going into this match up regardless of the stigma that he dies to Zerg rushes or busts. Predicting a stork win by speedlot timing or some variation of Reaver / Corsair play in the mid game as long as he doesn't fall to another hydra/ling bust.




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(T)Flash < Neo Electric Circuit > (Z)Action
(T)Fantasy < Gladiator > (P)mini
(Z)hyvaa < New Sniper Ridge > (Z)Shine
(Z)SoO < Neo Ground Zero > (P)Stork



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(T)Flash < Neo Electric Circuit > (Z)Action
(T)Fantasy < Gladiator > (P)mini
(Z)hyvaa < New Sniper Ridge > (Z)Shine
(Z)SoO < Neo Ground Zero > (P)Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +

(T)Flash < Neo Electric Circuit > (Z)Action

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +

(T)Fantasy < Gladiator > (P)mini

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +

(Z)hyvaa < New Sniper Ridge > (Z)Shine

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +

(Z)SoO < Neo Ground Zero > (P)Stork



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Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes (26)
 
67%

No (9)
 
23%

If you have time (4)
 
10%

39 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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Poll: Recommend Game 2?

Yes (18)
 
64%

If you have time (8)
 
29%

No (2)
 
7%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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Poll: Recommend Game 3?

Yes (9)
 
50%

No (5)
 
28%

If you have time (4)
 
22%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (13)
 
62%

No (4)
 
19%

If you have time (4)
 
19%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time








Thanks to Ryo/GTR for the schedule / groups, BLinD-RawR / HawaiianPig for the banner, and
many thanks to all our user streams!

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WHyTePoWeR
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)132 Posts
May 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#2
Dam Stork fantasy and Flash all playing in 1 day!
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 15 2012 21:32 GMT
#3
wow.
great day
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10192 Posts
May 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#4
FlaSh>Action
Fantasy>Mini
Hyvaa>Shine (I BELIEVE GO HYVAA!!!)
soO>Stork
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#5
flash vs action is an interesting team kill. I really hope it goes to a long game and action actually plays well with defiler.

Hope to see mini give a good showing too.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#6
STORK!
vs...
Random Zerg!*

FIGHT!

This could get messy.

+ Show Spoiler [*] +
Yes, yes, I know who you are, (Z)SoO, but I had to do it for the joke! See, it's funny because Stork often loses to hydra busts from random Zergs, and...yes, yes, I know how famous you are. Yes, yes, I love you, too. I'm gonna be rooting for Stork, though. Sorry.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:05:49
May 15 2012 22:03 GMT
#7
Predictions:
Set 1: (T)Flash < Neo Electric Circuit > (Z)Action
Flash is 9-0 this season against zergs and 4-1 on Neo Electric Circuit (3-0 against zergs), Action is 6-1 against terrans and 0-2 on the same map (didn't play against terrans). However team kills are always very difficult to predict. Action's form coming out of the playoffs as well as his performance in the ODT was solid and produced very good games. However Flash is still favored going into this match up, hoping for a good long drawn out macro game, but predicting that Action will probably try to break out of his Macro-hive-defiler mentality to surprise flash with a lurker or speedling timing.
Set 2: (T)Fantasy < Gladiator > (P)mini
Fantasy is 4-0 against Protoss' this season and 7-2 on gladiator (2-1 against toss). Mini's only win against terran came from a proxy cheese and has never played on gladiator in televised games. Knowing fantasy's practice mentality and history of being one of the very few terrans capable of winning against any protoss style or timing, he's definitely favored going into this game. The only thing in going in mini's favor is his momentum coming into the game as well as his obscurity, fantasy's vs toss style has always been a combination of vulture and dropship play with heavy management in the late game, where as mini has never demonstrated his vT strategy. Gladiator is a map with an extremely open center which lends itself to many different ways for the protoss to pincer, backstab, or surround the terran mech army while it's moving out, but fantasy has always demonstrated that he is capable of controlling the map and denying the protoss the ability to comfortably clear mines and thus deny any such technical maneuvers. If mini wants to win he needs to hit fantasy at a mid game timing before he sets up his third as the terran needs to be heavily entrenched across two ramps to make that happen. If it goes to late game fantasy is heavily favored.
Set 3: (Z)hyvaa < New Sniper Ridge > (Z)Shine
How Hyvaa and Shine consistently upset S class players is always something that fascinated me, this will most likely be the least anticipated match of the night given that it's a ZvZ as well as having the players that knocked JD / Bisu out of OSL runs. That being said both players have defeated the likes of Jaedong and Soulkey to get into the Ro16, and Shine actually boasts a >60% ZvZ win rate which might be surprising. The changes to new sniper ridge don't affect this match up significantly, given the volatility of the match up this is a hard prediction to make. Hyvaa is 0-2 on sniper ridge with a loss against Effort, and Hyvaa has never played on it. I'm just going to call Shine wins by a speedling timing while Hyvaa tries to do something fancy like his first game vs Roro in the ODT.
Set 4: (Z)SoO < Neo Ground Zero > (P)Stork
Soo is 4-2 against protoss' and 1-1 on Ground Zero (non against protoss), Stork is 5-1 against Zerg and 2-2 on Ground Zero (1-1 against zerg). The changes to the map is a direct nerf to close third zerg play which means that the mid game is going to be riding on the zerg securing another corner gas expansion and the protoss trying to bust it. Stork should be favored going into this match up regardless of the stigma that he dies to Zerg rushes or busts. Predicting a stork win by speedlot timing or some variation of Reaver / Corsair play in the mid game as long as he doesn't fall to another hydra/ling bust.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 15 2012 22:03 GMT
#8
On May 16 2012 06:42 Captain Peabody wrote:
STORK!
vs...
Random Zerg!*

FIGHT!

This could get messy.

+ Show Spoiler [*] +
Yes, yes, I know who you are, (Z)SoO, but I had to do it for the joke! See, it's funny because Stork often loses to hydra busts from random Zergs, and...yes, yes, I know how famous you are. Yes, yes, I love you, too. I'm gonna be rooting for Stork, though. Sorry.


Stork vowed to take Soo down in the ceremony. And when Stork is determined, he can do anything.

2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:10:14
May 15 2012 22:08 GMT
#9
action, fantasy, hyvaa, soo

i actually think that out of all Zergs, action has best chances against flash. he isn't better than them, but some "I'm his teammate" features can kick in. Can't wait to see this. Well, maybe it actually happens.

For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#10
hype hype hype 3 OSL Winners
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 15 2012 22:17 GMT
#11
Flash maybe favored to win the KT teamkill match but Action has inside knowledge on how he plays, so this will be interesting. Besides Flash, I heard that Action has the best in-house record
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
May 15 2012 22:39 GMT
#12
Flash
Fantasy
Shine
Stork
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
May 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#13
Either a day of upsets or a day of mismatches. I want to watch these... but 3:30am here on the coast? T_T I get up at 5 for work
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#14
This ought to be good.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 15 2012 23:10 GMT
#15
Action doesn't make it past the 10minute mark
Stork dies to a Hydra bust
Hyvaa and Shine could go either way

Fantasy rides on to victory.
WriterXiao8~~
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
May 15 2012 23:27 GMT
#16
On May 16 2012 08:10 Kipsate wrote:
Action doesn't make it past the 10minute mark
Stork dies to a Hydra bust
Hyvaa and Shine could go either way

Fantasy rides on to victory.

you disgust me
Writer:o
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 15 2012 23:34 GMT
#17
Flash vs Action should be really interesting.
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
May 15 2012 23:35 GMT
#18
Go Shine! Go Mini! Proxy shield batteries, I believe!

(side note: please lose, soo)
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
May 15 2012 23:45 GMT
#19
I want Flash to beat Action so that he can get beat down by Stork/Fantasy/Jangbi

Especially after the SC2 balance whine when he plays Terran in BW...tsk tsk
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 23:46:16
May 15 2012 23:46 GMT
#20
On May 16 2012 06:42 Captain Peabody wrote:
STORK!
vs...
Random Zerg!*

FIGHT!

This could get messy.

+ Show Spoiler [*] +
Yes, yes, I know who you are, (Z)SoO, but I had to do it for the joke! See, it's funny because Stork often loses to hydra busts from random Zergs, and...yes, yes, I know how famous you are. Yes, yes, I love you, too. I'm gonna be rooting for Stork, though. Sorry.


We're talking about Stork here, not Bisu.
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