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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 31 2012 22:45 GMT
#85
/in
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#148
To what degree is the no role claiming of Batman/Cat Woman enforced? Are they allowed to hint at their role without directly claiming? Are they allowed to claim their hits? Is town allowed to identify the third party roles by forcing a mass batman claim, where the only person not allowed to claim is revealed?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#305
Scum would love it if we outed the Joker. That means batman would be blue shooting instead of scum shooting night one. Toad said it best. Batman should be shooting scum suspects to find Hugo. It is much more likely the scum team to take care of the joker with a night hit than it is for Hugo to die from a vig hit. In addition, if Batman is cornered into a lynch and is forced to claim his hits, the town is much more likely to spare him if he has a scum shot on his resume, than if he has a list of blues that he has hit. Just look at LoTR mafia with how willing the town was to work with chaoser after he shot radfield. Catwoman should also consider shooting into scum early to ensure she will survive late game.

The only setup speculation worth talking about seems to be the choices certain blue players have. Assuming they are standard roles, I'd prioritize dt over vig obviously. I'd probably select medic over vig as well, but with two scum players holding a kp, vig could be more valuable to normal.

##Vote Visceraeyes
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 17:39 GMT
#319
Happy Birthday Toad!

In regards to my previous post, I just realized scum have a medic, so I would definitely prioritize a medic over vig for anyone who has a choice.

On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote:
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?

+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out.


He is allowed to claim his hits.

Funny how you step in to shoot down the setup discussion, yet don't bring up a topic yourself. I've got a bad scum habit of criticizing bad town discussion without contributing myself

On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?


I didn't like this post, but mostly I'm looking for reactions. Yours is quite disappointing.

On February 06 2012 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim


On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.


Cute. I'm suddenly your lead scum suspect because I voted for you?

BM you weren't serious about the mass claim were you? I hope you're not trying to play the same character as L. Palmar, you're sounding a lot like L as well. I don't think that turned out very well.

Waiting for Radfield's wall of text.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 23:56 GMT
#419
Kurumi are you trying to be helpful??? Red flags!

Quite the absence of veterans at the moment. Are they really content with how the game is going so far or do they just not care? Day one is nearly over and a huge majority of them haven't said a thing of importance. Don't think you can make your first point at the 35 hour mark and expect to lead the lynch.

ico do you find anyone scummy or do you just plan to continue ranting on about dumb play and policy lynches? You seem to have mafia experience, so I'll remember to hold you to high standards.

On February 06 2012 19:19 Tyrran wrote:
Therefore, at least during the beginning of the game, Batman should not want to favor any side .


This sound like a plea to anyone? From a town perspective, I know I'd tell Batman to shoot scum, even if it weren't the ideal move. Can you post more Tyrran? I'd like to hear from you regarding other subjects.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 17:43 GMT
#547
ico's theme so far has been to promote a good thread environment. The only problem is that he is shooting down posts by others, but not making an attempt to improve the thread himself. He suggest that the discussion about random voting is derailing the thread, yet doesn't propose anything else to discuss. He makes an extremely safe comment about how the joker shouldn't claim, but has yet to make a legitimate contribution.

ico has shown no signs of scumhunting thus far. He has suggested a policy lynch on kenpachi and called Adam a threat to town for his random vote. However, in both situations he is not going after players he necessarily finds scummy, he is attacking players that are making "stupid" town plays. Stupid town play should be discussed post-game. The only people we should be lynching are those who are most likely mafia.

##Vote ico

Tobberoth has also flew under the radar. I'm not sure I've seen a single player mention him yet. His contributions have been safe and non-aggressive. He plays the noob card and spends most of his time discussing the setup. He jumps on the suspicion cast on kenpachi and VE, but doesn't add anything to the argument himself.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#552
BM I agree the strength of a mass claim is a potential threat to the scum team, but I'm not sure day one is the best time to pull it off. For it to work, the entire town has to agree to it or you're only outing the blues that decide to claim. Additionally, a large majority of the scum team can hide in the pool of vanilla town claims. Sure, it makes the people to claim blue look good, but confirming the town status of our dts, vigs, and medics does not seem like a beneficial trade in exchange for outing all their identities. I think I'd be more willing to consider it down the road.

lolol chaoser complaining about noobs? How ironic.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 20:21 GMT
#660
Sigh...
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 01:33 GMT
#755
I'm not sure I like a CC lynch. It is pretty rare for a scum to post a plan guiding town's direction and generating discussion on day one. His thoughts about RG/Hugo don't really make much sense, but are they scummy? I haven't had a chance to read Sheth though, but I'll post again in a bit. If I don't like him, I'll try to suggest an alternate candidate (likely ico or kurumi).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#768
Sheth, mind posting when you are around? I have a question for you.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#779
opz knows best.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#790
mind posting your spreadsheet real quick?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#837
I'm still not a huge fan of either of the major lynches. I'll switch to ico for now. My case was posted earlier in the thread. Sixty minutes is a lot of time and the votes counts are relatively low so we aren't stuck with the current two candidates if we agree there is someone better out there.

chaoser/bugs/radfield trio gives me the creeps, but that's for another time.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:10 GMT
#840
kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#843
On February 08 2012 12:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:10 kitaman27 wrote:
kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important.

I am not trying to dodge the lynch, I don't give a fuck. Lynch me, fine. I understand why You're thinking that's a good decision.
No need for claiming anything. Let's say, stars aligned perfectly with something. Somehow I am on a vig spree lately.


You agree that it would be a pro-town move to name claim though correct? You already claimed vig so there is no harm. That way we can stop talking about you and whether or not your claim is real. Thanks.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#862
I'm worried that you won't get a chance to use your guns if you refuse to name claim

If you don't have a name to claim and were trying to draw a hit, just let us know before things spiral out of control. Your cases aren't all that bad as long as you aren't all over the place with them.

I didn't read the first arkham game. Was that the game with the name vig or was it a different one?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:39 GMT
#868
You have a role claim for us CC?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 04:06 GMT
#889
On February 08 2012 13:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Quick!!!! Everybody switch to Bill Murray. He's fishing!!!!!!


It's Tuesday night and your still around? Scum duties trump bowling?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#892
Congrats on 5k BM!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 16:51 GMT
#965
Discussing the claim from Toad or complaining about how bad it may or may not be is pretty pointless. He already claimed and he felt it was advantageous to do so. I don't really have any reason to doubt it at the moment. Is this really the topic people feel is most relevant to us catching scum?

Something I find interesting is the people who started to speculate that Cheese would flip third party, rather than scum. The mafia know that cheese couldn't have flipped scum, so Batman or Catwomen is the only roles they could speculate him being honestly. I know in past games, I've accidentally called players serial killers because I knew they couldn't be scum.

There were so many people on day one that were quiet or irrelevant that they don't have the luxury of staying quiet during the night. With 4-5 blue claims already and a number of vets to shoot through, I'm less worried about night discussion influencing scum hits.

chaoser, when I mentioned that I thought it was unlikely that cheese would suggest a plan while as scum, you immediately tried to shoot it down with a counter-example. I dislike how you were quick to dismiss the point by providing a rare exception with LSB. Your general attitude this game seems different.

bugs, it's interesting you would decide to pick the 1/31 chance that I would be gf. Worried that any dt checks will come clean?

If your name starts with a T, you need to post more. I'm having real trouble differentiating you guys. evantrees has been even more quiet than usual. slardar, opz, jay, ico, qualis, and katina leave much to be desired. People may be giving kurumi a hard time, but at least he is posting. I'll take that any day over an inactive.
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