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To continue on this strategy "discussion" that has started and wheter or not we should discuss this, i think as town we have too as its our only communication platform. Angels and Demons can discuss outside the thread so people hammering on the fact we shouldnt discuss strategy have it wrong in my opinion. As its not relevant at the moment but will be after night one, i agree on the fact that claiming corruption means giving yourself on a platter to the acolyte unless our town sage illumanates you or channeler banishes you. We also have a seer who in my opinion has the most important power of the game, namely the identification of angels! As of such, please don't roleclaim for now as mentioned in the pre-game discussion for with 3 factions in this game, 2 factions will instantly try to kill you. Other thing, is there any way to see the vote count from the Zbot or do we only get a result when the majority happens? | ||
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On January 05 2012 14:27 Bluelightz wrote: Okay, ill just give my thoughts on LA-Lurkers First, I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way. Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example) Also, Here's the list of people I want posting xsksc Cwave risk.nuke Errandor That is all. I doubt anyone cares what you "want" with all the fluff you have been slinging into the thread from the start. Don't mistake different times zones with "lurking" please. I need to sleep or i get puffy eyes. On cases, my vote is reserverd for Dirkzor atm. In his filter he talks alot about Angels and how they are not the only threat to the town and that we should focus on Demons aswell. Good point but still the weight of his text is scewed towards not-town. On January 04 2012 17:46 Dirkzor wrote: Game on! This setup scares the living shit out of me. So many nuances to keep track of. Anyway... I agree that Angels appear to be strongest in the beginning with 1/2 KP. But what haven't been mentioned is that Angels can kill the demon for us aswell. If we lynch Angel of Death and Angelic Acolyte we will have to lynch/Demon hunter the Demons. Since I don't know the Demon hunter or how good that person is, he could just aswell kill 3 town people the first 3 nights which of course would not be very favourable for us. It basicly means we would need to do more correct lynches while having a good demon hunter that don't fuck us over with continously town kills. Demons also have the Twist ability which basicly makes one (1) of their members immune to night actions, rendering the demon hunter to be less useful. What i wanted to point out that even if we get 3 correct Angel lynches (unlikely) the first 3 nights. The demons are equally capable to fuck us over. That is why I think that killing any angel or demon is good. Not one over the other. If we knew which angel or demon, it would be a different matter. Above average focus on the day/night cycle. Can't wait for the night to begin Dirkzor? To use your powers? On January 04 2012 23:29 Dirkzor wrote: Day 1 seems to be longer then it should be? Zbot claims it ends in 3 days and 10h (aprox. as of writing) when the OP states: Palmar is just being useless by choice. New strategy from the vets? No cases, no effort, just kites? On January 05 2012 18:36 Palmar wrote: I claimed kite, that's pretty pro-town? | ||
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On January 05 2012 23:47 Palmar wrote: assuming that no-shooting is not an option. you have to shoot, and you have to hit scum. I think this is a good hypothetical question to answer. One everyone should answer! Dikrzor for me at the moment. For you Palmar & Syllo, who would you pop right now if you had to? | ||
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Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing? | ||
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On January 05 2012 22:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: lol sorry, I actually just got home and forgot this game started. Initially I thought I'd just finish up Responsibility mafia then jump over here but that doesn't seem like its going to happen anytime soon. I just need some time to catch up. On January 06 2012 13:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Sorry, I had to finish up some business in the Responsibility game. Now that that is over this game gets my full attention. Ok that does it. How about you take responsibility in this current game? There is useless and then there is this. Your filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=41447 3 posts of which 2 contain a sorry. You had more then ample time to post and yet you choose to not do so(you choose to do the other mafia game) You don't even have a signup post and why is that, ah yes. You are an invited player by Zona cause you subbed in before. As a invited player and a subber, you should know how useless inactive people are. Even more so when they just post something to prevent modkills....... Your name in my excel had "invited by Zona, most likely some role with power due to that". Now it's "useless inactive". | ||
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On January 06 2012 17:55 Blazinghand wrote: check out previous Zona games if you think that's how Zona works Well, one would assume that people who get invited are gonna be bloody active. Game has run for 3 days now. | ||
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On January 06 2012 18:32 Blazinghand wrote: That's not what you said. This is what you said: Those two don't exclude eachother. Activity is a given for mafia games and if you fail to be active you are useless or scum. Or both. | ||
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On January 06 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote: It's quite possible that wiggles is scum, but considering you don't particularly appear to care about the game, I'm hardly sold based on your "wiggles possibly can't be this bad!" case. Do you think I'm town? Why don't you care about who I think is scum? Why do you care what he thinks about your scumreads? Since you haven't provided any or anything close to it, you make it hard for someone to care for something that isn't there (yet). Just " Im gonna lynch Wiggles if he doesnt post more" and "Im gonna lynch Errandor if he doesnt post more". However, I still do care about who you think is scum. Who do you think is scum? | ||
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Want to point out the useless piggy called RoL again since he is now at a grand total of 4 posts of which none contain anything else then apologies and a bandwagon vote on the base of "lynch is better then no lynch". I agree with the fact that lynching gives us more information then no lynching. But If you really value these TL mafia-standards RoL, you should replace yourself or die as the scum that you are. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=41447 | ||
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Other then your defense that you "got annoyed with meta in the face", any reason i shouldn't vote you? Seems such a waste to hang someone like you for information as suggested by other people in here. While i await your asnwer im parking my vote on Erandorr. Main reason is this post which puts Erandorr along side RoL for me in terms of bad/useless. On January 07 2012 03:03 layabout wrote: Erandorr: + Show Spoiler + missed a lot of time, starts by joking around On January 06 2012 09:16 Erandorr wrote: Ya I probably should post sometime soon but I am really tired and want to sleep soon. If anyone has any question for me just go ahead, I will provide content of my own tomorrow. Promises content on the next day (which would be today) just now posts On January 07 2012 01:39 Erandorr wrote: I actually didn't roll scum. I just missed the start and don't seem to find a way into the game. I already stated with my brilliant 1 liner that I sort of dislike a Wiggles lynch and actually would like to lynch Palmar today. I don't quite know what to do with all the other crap that has been posted, since the only person I have a clear Town read on is you (YES IM TRYING TO BUDDY UP) claims town and makes an excuse doesn't seem to be trying to help, or be serious On January 07 2012 01:55 Erandorr wrote: Out of the two, which is the one you would rather like to lynch and why? asks a person who supported Palmars case and subsequently voted for Wiggles which of the two they want to lynch On January 07 2012 02:11 Erandorr wrote: Why do you think Risk is scummiest and not Tyrran/me? If I am not mistaken then Syllos reasons to rather lynch Palmar have very little to do with the arguments Wiggles brought forward. Ya, mistake on my side, sorry. he is asking lots of questions and saying bugger all about what he thinks I am completely fine with an Erandorr lynch. @Syllogism, why do you no longer think we should lynch Grackaroni? ##VOTE: Erandorr | ||
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On January 08 2012 04:58 syllogism wrote: Cwave: So who would you rather lynch out of erandorr/risk? There is very little reason to believe that you aren't scum as well; are you going to be too busy for the remainder of the game or do you actually intend to start scum hunting and posting content at some point? Your post count and content is barely above RoL's. You mean i dont pingpong between players i know from previous mafia games and discuss plays in TL XXLCCCLXLX vs TL CLXXHX vs Steamship the musical? I can give my thesis on why i hate hydras?  To continue, I still think RoL is useless and Dirkzor smells of something fishy(angel/demon). Its the end of day 1 and like everyone else, i dont have a solid case on anyone. I believe that Erandorr is our best bet for now cause I don't see anything solid or slippy from Risk.nuke that explains all the votes on him. I myself believe in the LAL principle strongly. Even more when lurkers get called out and then... continue on lurking -.- | ||
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On January 08 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote: I don't have all night risk.nuke Cwave, what do you think about risk? Do you think his plan was reasonable? What plan do you mean? On January 06 2012 12:45 risk.nuke wrote: I don't want to lynch palmar because first of all he is Palmar and secondly he seems to be missing. Why should we lynch the (imo) best player in the game in a 2 mafia team setup day 1. Not too bad of a plan since you do tend to create good ripples in the water. And with ripples comes information. Or this one? On January 08 2012 04:15 risk.nuke wrote: @Palmar you wanted to know about my ridiculous idea. Well prepare yourself for ridiculousness. At the time I was having a blast sitting up there anonymous reading every word people were saying. It was a great discussion to. Due to my habit of vetoing the first bandwagon on principle with few exeptions I wasn't going to lynch bluelightz, Refallan I was actually slightly suspicious of. Anyway the discussion had pretty much slowed down so I wrote a few thoughts that wouldn't get either of them lynched but rather to just fuel the discussion. I was also having an eye on blazinghand back then (yeah don't worry I've dropped him, butI though he was fishy at the time) I hate day 1 and I just wanted to get as much information as I could hoping I might find a good case against odds. I don't agree with a veto by default..... If the first lynch is a good one and flips a scum, his strategy would prevent that. Excluding things beforehand is never a good idea. Fueling discussion is good thing imo as long as its a bit constructive but he seems to have overstept the informationpokingtreshold and it has landed him some votes in the face. If someone leads people in a discussion in a bully kind of way to force a thought more the force the discussion then that's a red flag. | ||
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You go through DABDA: Denial : On January 06 2012 09:34 Jackal58 wrote: No you can't. Get over your self important self. I have a job. And it's not asking if you'd like fries with that order. When I'm here I'll read the thread and post my opinions and vote accordingly. When I'm not here I'm working or paying bills or fixing shit my wife broke. Mafia is not my career it's how I choose to spend my leisure time. Some days I have more of it than others. I will post every day. When time permits you'll be sick of seeing me. When work permits I'll post from there. Today was not one of those days. So get over it. With that said Palmar is most likely scum. When he's town this far in on day 1 he's either becoming excessively belligerent towards people or screaming at people like me to post more. ##Vote: Palmar. Anger On January 06 2012 12:20 Jackal58 wrote: Fucking null team is gonna kick our fucking asses all over the place. Bargaining On January 07 2012 23:18 Jackal58 wrote: Vote for Palmar guys. He's scum. Depression On January 07 2012 23:26 Jackal58 wrote: And of those who is going to become harder to hang after we start dying? Acceptance On January 08 2012 05:51 Jackal58 wrote: Why not? He your scum buddy too? And I'll ask the same of you. Reading your filter is a lot like reading nothing. Almost!! In short, you have nothing in your filter apart from Palmar pokes and story telling about how you always poke Palmar day1. If that's the case, it's not so usefull. | ||
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On January 09 2012 20:37 Dirkzor wrote: Actually: ##Vote Cwave Either he is scum with palmar or he is a townie with a bad read (on me). Humour me with explaining either statement. It's useless for our progress if you just vote like that. Atleast give me some arguments i can counter or explain instead of saying i have a bad read on you. I still think you have some sort of Angel/Demon power hiding. If im wrong, explain. Voting for me cause i have my questions with your alignment is not town behaviour by you. | ||
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On January 09 2012 21:16 Refallen wrote: Well I decided to take a look at Cwave since Dirk is voting for him. Cwave Ok, weird role to choose the most important power of. Unless you're a demon. Buddying with Palmar, possible scumbuddies? The exchange about risk.nuke and his plan sounds especially contrived. Not wanting to vote risk.nuke? I'm going to say that if we lynch risk.nuke and he flips demon, Cwave is most probably the last one. At that time there was much unclear on who was the best target to lynch in my opinion. Noone had anything like a 100% scumslip or solid case and our best bet was Errandor. Then someone started on Risk and i looked into his filter. I still think that at that time, there wasn't much scummy stuff in his filter so i parked my vote on Errandor. That then the mandatory panic switching insued later on ending in the lynching of Errandor is shamefull but i still stand for the vote cause at the time, he was our best lynchtarget...  Only one to blame is Errandor himself cause he was not really defending himself which made it easy for everyone to panic switch to him. As for a better target, i was loathing RoL cause he was being ultra useless. Seems he now filled the thread with a plan to mass claim. If anything, this is not the game for massclaiming in my opinion, as also explained by other peeps. Certainly not in the early game! As for the palmar thing, Palmar creates information spam, whatever allignment. I don't see how that observation by me makes me his buddy. On January 06 2012 12:45 risk.nuke wrote: I don't want to lynch palmar because first of all he is Palmar and secondly he seems to be missing. Why should we lynch the (imo) best player in the game in a 2 mafia team setup day 1. Not too bad of a plan since you do tend to create good ripples in the water. And with ripples comes information. Or this one?[/quote] Palmar creates information spam, useless stuff and usefull stuff. I don't see how that observation by me makes me his buddy? I've played games with Palmar outside of the TL context and he is known for his textwalling and informationgathering skills, no matter what side he is on. Information and interaction is good for our town. | ||
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