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http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:13:09
November 15 2011 14:45 GMT
#1
I just wanted to get a copy of this posted over on TeamLiquid, the article seems very vague on exactly how close this is to passing, but apparently it's very under the radar, and if what i read is true this law could end up getting sites like TeamLiquid blacklisted for copyright infringement even if the post in question was years ago.

Google knows it. Viacom knows it. The Chamber of Commerce knows it. Internet democracy groups know it. BoingBoing knows it. But, the Internet hasn't been told yet -- we're going to get blown away by the end of the year. The worst bill in Internet history is about to become law. Law is very real here in the United States and legal language is often different than stated intentions -- this law would give government and corporations the power to block sites like BoingBoing over infringing links on at least one webpage posted by their users. Believe the EFF, Public Knowledge, Google when they say this bill is about much more than copyright, it's about the Internet and free speech everywhere.


Full article here
Direct link to video

EDITs:
On November 16 2011 01:40 MileyCyrus wrote:
Okay people in the US, here is a VERY EASY way to spend 2-3 minutes and significantly help out, it really takes no time and ill walk you through what you need to do.

1) Find out what state you live in

2) Go to -- https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

3) Select your state and zip code

4) Fill out VERY basic information that will be used to validate that you are who you say your are

5) Make sure to include " PROTECT IP (S. 968)/SOPA (HR. 3261)"

6) Then write your opinion below (hopefully it wouldnt be in favor of the bill, but hey, thats your right)


I have attached my own little write up below, use it if you want, or write your own.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am hugely against this bill. It is a massive move against internet freedom that seems to only be in-motion due to greed. This needless regulation will be virtually impossible to enforce but more importantly, doing so would be a frivolous use of manpower. China has a very similar to what this would be and its internet policies are well... a joke to be quite honest. I truly hope to see this shut down and hope that you will be apart of the reason. Thank you for your time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In all seriousness this takes 2-3 minutes, it is remarkably streamlined and simple.


EDIT: I sent that out to all Washington Representatives of Kentucky in 10-15 minutes. Im sure you can be bother to send out one or two =P



On November 16 2011 07:37 driftme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 07:22 Omnipresent wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a calm, rational, and well sourced article about this? I'm completely willing to believe that it's 100% terrible and only the result of evil corporations trying to control us and our government, but I'd like to hear it from a more thorough source.


here's the actual bill:
http://leahy.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BillText-PROTECTIPAct.pdf

and some good articles/sites:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110712/12371715059/rep-anna-eshoo-silicon-valley-thinks-protect-ip-is-about-immigration.shtml
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/protectip_docs
http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2011/1115_cybersecurity_friedman.aspx
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110510/13285714230/son-coica-protect-ip-act-will-allow-broad-censorship-powers-including-copyright-holders.shtml
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67985.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2011/11/11/the-case-for-the-protect-ip-act-and-dns-filtering/

those have some great explanations and viewpoints from relevant people. if i remember correctly, the last article is written by a proponent. good to have other viewpoints too, even if theyre wrong =]

EDIT: OH! I forgot the three most important things... this is a series about these new legislations (sopa included) everyone who wants to learn more should read these:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/disastrous-ip-legislation-back-–-and-it’s-worse-ever
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/sopa-hollywood-finally-gets-chance-break-internet
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/hollywood-new-war-on-software-freedom-and-internet-innovation

EDIT 2: Here's another link to an interesting read about another legislation/enforcement debacle.. its still going on and will only get worse with PIPA and SOPA
https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca


EDIT 3: Added by Request:
On December 20 2011 06:25 deadmau wrote:

these entertainment industries are funneling the might of their bank accounts into these politicians pockets so that they will vote in their favor, why else would guys that know nothing about computers, internet, let alone keyboards try and regulate the Internet which they can't even use. It makes NO sense. I've been reading so many sources, but one that stood out, "this is like open heart surgery, without nurses and doctors. Where the Internet (patient) is being operated on, by students (politicians), without doctors and nurses (Internet Engineers/Experts)."

Please spread the word about these corrupt industries.

MPAA/RIAA bank accounts run deep:
http://reporting.sunlightfoundation.com/2011/legacy-media-bankrolling-campaigns-of-SOPA-consponsors/

Obviously these dimwits in Congress didn't write the bills themselves, they can't even type with two hands:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/01/1041325/-MPAA-Admits-They-Are-Writing-Internet-Blacklist-Bill?via=sidebar

Those inside the government that helped MPAA write this up, well shiny new jobs for you:
http://boingboing.net/2011/12/11/congressional-staffers-behind.html

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FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
November 15 2011 14:50 GMT
#2
On November 15 2011 23:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I just wanted to get a copy of this posted over on TeamLiquid, the article seems very vague on exactly how close this is to passing, but apparently it's very under the radar, and if what i read is true this law could end up getting sites like TeamLiquid blacklisted for copyright infringement even if the post in question was years ago.

Show nested quote +
Google knows it. Viacom knows it. The Chamber of Commerce knows it. Internet democracy groups know it. BoingBoing knows it. But, the Internet hasn't been told yet -- we're going to get blown away by the end of the year. The worst bill in Internet history is about to become law. Law is very real here in the United States and legal language is often different than stated intentions -- this law would give government and corporations the power to block sites like BoingBoing over infringing links on at least one webpage posted by their users. Believe the EFF, Public Knowledge, Google when they say this bill is about much more than copyright, it's about the Internet and free speech everywhere.


Full article here


You can not be serious. This can never happen, it would completly shutdown every forum based website there is!
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TheBomb
Profile Joined October 2011
237 Posts
November 15 2011 14:56 GMT
#3
This is part of a new world system where if you happen to post a what would otherwise be fair usage video or picture or whatever you will be shut down and what is scary is that most of these laws go all over the world.

This is a new world system of corrupt ways and corporate domination.

User was warned for this post
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
November 15 2011 15:00 GMT
#4
The video from OPs link pretty much covers the article, for those who prefer this medium.

http://vimeo.com/31100268

I think we've all experienced how the internet is not all free anymore, but this is just too much.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#5
On November 15 2011 23:50 FlaminGinjaNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 23:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I just wanted to get a copy of this posted over on TeamLiquid, the article seems very vague on exactly how close this is to passing, but apparently it's very under the radar, and if what i read is true this law could end up getting sites like TeamLiquid blacklisted for copyright infringement even if the post in question was years ago.

Google knows it. Viacom knows it. The Chamber of Commerce knows it. Internet democracy groups know it. BoingBoing knows it. But, the Internet hasn't been told yet -- we're going to get blown away by the end of the year. The worst bill in Internet history is about to become law. Law is very real here in the United States and legal language is often different than stated intentions -- this law would give government and corporations the power to block sites like BoingBoing over infringing links on at least one webpage posted by their users. Believe the EFF, Public Knowledge, Google when they say this bill is about much more than copyright, it's about the Internet and free speech everywhere.


Full article here


You can not be serious. This can never happen, it would completly shutdown every forum based website there is!


You're not fully aware of what the US government is capable of. Remember this is the same entity that made drinking illegal, weed possession criminalized, prevented the rights of minorities and women for over 100 years, allowed the enslavement and trade of people, and currently thinks wiretapping is legal.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
November 15 2011 15:07 GMT
#6
no way this will happen.
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
November 15 2011 15:08 GMT
#7
My question is who would enforce this law, combing the internet for these particular sites would take a lot of time and manpower. Would they create a whole new division or just create a jurisdiction from another area. But either way this is bad
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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
November 15 2011 15:12 GMT
#8
This thing is about to fucking kill internet and this is the only place I've read about it wtf!? How do you stop a law from becoming reality if you don't know about it?
MileyCyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States285 Posts
November 15 2011 15:14 GMT
#9
I have to get to class in... 2 minutes ago if im honest. can someone break this down into a few key points that i cant check on my phone as i walk over. <3
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monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
November 15 2011 15:16 GMT
#10
I guess no more websites hosted in the US then? or they could still enforce this law no matter where the website is located?
@ggmonx
Gogleion
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States534 Posts
November 15 2011 15:17 GMT
#11
If people support this bill, you can take action by sending a letter to your representative through:

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 15 2011 15:17 GMT
#12
On November 16 2011 00:08 DreamChaser wrote:
My question is who would enforce this law


anyone who can profit from it. laws are made so people can profit from them.
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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
November 15 2011 15:20 GMT
#13
Heh, even more copyright and patent laws to pave way for privatized monopolies. It will probably be struck down, but those buying the laws have unlimited resources and will keep pushing towards their goals.

It's ironic, and I'm of course saying this with some tounge-in-cheek, but I see the future of the free society in China. At least they refuse to accept patent laws.

Of course, if privatized monopolizes is on the one extreme, China is on the other. The good alternative would be someplace in the middle.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
November 15 2011 15:22 GMT
#14
I don't understand how this could possibly occur to the fullest hypothetical extent o.O
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Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
November 15 2011 15:25 GMT
#15
On November 16 2011 00:08 DreamChaser wrote:
My question is who would enforce this law, combing the internet for these particular sites would take a lot of time and manpower. Would they create a whole new division or just create a jurisdiction from another area. But either way this is bad


A law like this would have to be enforced sporadically/randomly. Basically, if you angered to the wrong people who have access to the judicial system, then they would use this law to shut down your site.
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nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
November 15 2011 15:27 GMT
#16
didn't obama say this was an instant veto if it came to him, or was that another similar bill?
Sup
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
November 15 2011 15:29 GMT
#17
This is absolutely horrific. Cannot be allowed to be passed.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#18
this would start a fucking internet war, i dont think theyre that stupid
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 15 2011 15:34 GMT
#19
On November 16 2011 00:25 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 00:08 DreamChaser wrote:
My question is who would enforce this law, combing the internet for these particular sites would take a lot of time and manpower. Would they create a whole new division or just create a jurisdiction from another area. But either way this is bad


A law like this would have to be enforced sporadically/randomly. Basically, if you angered to the wrong people who have access to the judicial system, then they would use this law to shut down your site.


Yeah, basically don't piss off people/organizations with a lot of money behind them.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 15:35:50
November 15 2011 15:35 GMT
#20
Impressive. They're trying to pass this, and make more people considered criminals rather than passing other things (*cough* marijuana) and making less criminals/more money?


edit: Anon probably isn't too happy about this law.
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