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A Follow-Up Message from the IPL

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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:03:09
November 09 2011 23:51 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,

We've had time to review the PPSL situation and the community response to it and I felt like we should clarify some more issues in the interest of being open and honest with the community, as well as talk about our future plans for our regional events.

1) Why did we pick PPSL to run our SEA Qualifier for IPL 4?

When we were planning IPL 3, we heard that the PPSL was going to be doing an event that same weekend, with Tastosis and Korean players coming in. In order to allow players to play in both events, as well as making sure the community could watch both events, we entered in negotiations with the PPSL to shift their date for their event, even though their broadcast times would only slightly conflict with ours. We agreed to pay them to move their event and also we wanted to support the local Filipino eSports scene and thus went further and became a sponsor of their event. This was not a case of us picking them over anyone else.

2) Will we be able to swoop in and make everything right with the PPSL aftermath?

I wish we could just come in on a white horse and right all the wrongs, but we want to share more inside info why that's difficult. Our sponsorship of the event was only $14k, of which we gave Gus 50% before the event. To ensure that the event would be successful, we withheld the remaining $7k. This will not pay for even half of what's been reported he owes. We will work on evaluating where to best allocate the remaining funds.

3) Will we ever do an event in the Philippines again?

I cannot answer that either way right now until we evaluate our plans for 2012. If anything, the vigorous defense of the Filipino eSports scene from the Filipino fan base to this situation has only helped the cause to come back at some point. We've talked to both Dox and Mineski already about potential events in the future.

4) What does this mean for future IPL Regionals?

What kind of passed by the wayside without too much notice is we actually did similar things with the Devastation event in Arizona in October. Devastation had decided to include StarCraft 2 in its lineup this year and was run the same weekend as IPL 3. We talked to them and worked out a deal where we'd take on sponsorship for their event in exchange for letting us borrow Sir Scoots as a consultant and them cancelling their SC2 portion of the event. Devastation went extremely well and as a result, we actually brought in their senior leader, Robb, to our core team. This gives us the belief that we can successfully sponsor and partner with regional events and have them be successful.

Coming up in two weekends is Multiplay's i44 event in the UK, which is another regional qualifier (more info can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=277765). We've been working with them for several weeks now and they proactively reached out to us immediately when they saw what went down on the first day with PPSL. We are working closely together to make sure this is a successful event that is enjoyable for live spectators, online spectators, and the players. Their staff is experienced and while we do not expect our regional partners to be able to create something like IPL 3, we do believe they can create something that is worth your valuable time to watch. We've helped them build an event chock full of top players - Grubby, WhiteRa, Thorzain, Bling, Hasuobs, StarEagle, Cloud, Sase, Stephano, Lau, Adelscott, Demuslim, Darkforce, Minigun, Ryung and Tails thus far - so please do not give up on our regional partners based on one bad experience. The best thing the community can do is watch each regional and give the organizers feedback to make each event even better. We are in this for the long term and we expect to see long term growth and quality increases from each of our regional partners.

Thank you!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 09 2011 23:53 GMT
#2
thank you for clarifying about the money withheld from the PPSL

stoked for IPL4!
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
November 09 2011 23:53 GMT
#3
Glad to see you guys arent giving up on regional tournaments after this, and hopefully the Philippines gets a good event again sometime soon.

IPL fighting!
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
November 09 2011 23:53 GMT
#4
Are you taking legal action against people who steal your money? yes/no?

Micro your Macro
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
November 09 2011 23:54 GMT
#5
wow IPL really taking this seriously, props to them and i hope you wont have this much trouble in the future
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
November 09 2011 23:54 GMT
#6
Anyone who blamed you people for this is stupid, it could of happened to anyone.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 09 2011 23:55 GMT
#7
wow props to IPL
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 09 2011 23:55 GMT
#8
On November 10 2011 08:53 CookieMaker wrote:
Are you taking legal action against people who steal your money? yes/no?



I would also really like to know if this is indeed your plan? (To pursue legal actions)

<3 GL In future events !!
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
November 09 2011 23:56 GMT
#9
Awesome! Absolutely awesome! I love the openness and how you have treated this all. Please keep it up!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
TheGunrun
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 23:57:23
November 09 2011 23:56 GMT
#10
Yes, please come back to the philippines. There is still so much potential. And thank you for the support during all of this.
One vision, One Purpose!
Lite Kirby
Profile Joined November 2005
United States74 Posts
November 09 2011 23:56 GMT
#11
Thanks for the information, good to know IPL is doing what is right.
Get upgrades, get observers, get storm.
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
November 09 2011 23:58 GMT
#12
Dox is a great guy and continually runs good events for the SEA community. I completely agree that in the future you should be talking to him and getting him to help with any future events.
RxDamitol
Profile Joined February 2011
United States83 Posts
November 09 2011 23:59 GMT
#13
Thank you IPL for everything you've done!
Greedy beats Safe, Safe beats Cheesy, and Cheesy beats Greedy.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:00:21
November 09 2011 23:59 GMT
#14
Alex is the biggest man on the block : ), Thanks again for addressing questions alot of people are thinking about.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:06:00
November 10 2011 00:00 GMT
#15
Thanks for the updates, but I do agree with TheGunrun that the Philippines should get another chance in the future. Because it would be a huge shame if one person ruined it for the whole country.
Wawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
November 10 2011 00:01 GMT
#16
Huge props to IPL for all the support they have given.

And yes, Please come back to the Philippines!
There is so much more the sc community, e-sports community in the country to offer.

<3
www.youtube.com/wawastarcraft
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
November 10 2011 00:01 GMT
#17
God IPL is amazing. You guys are an inspiration not just to those of us who hope for a bright e-sports future, but to anyone looking at how to go above and beyond the call of duty in terms of customer satisfaction while running a business.

I salute you IPL, I'll definitely be buying the highest quality of streams and features for the finals.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 10 2011 00:03 GMT
#18
Can someone clarify what hapenned with Gus? I didn't follow the actual event at all, and read over the initial release statement but not the community response.
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
November 10 2011 00:03 GMT
#19
it would be dumb for anyone to be concerned about the i44 event because of the ppsl scenario, theyve been running events for years now! I dont think anyone is blaming IPL for the catastrophe of an event that this seems to have been, and I guess thats in part due to how great their own events have been. It's clear to most onlookers that this isnt the type of messed up scenario that is usually associated with the IPL
Arkanthiel
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines100 Posts
November 10 2011 00:03 GMT
#20
Thank you for not giving up on the Philippines, Alex.
Los! Los Cabadrin!
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