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[G] Gas Steal Denial (simple)

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NaturalHacks
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 14:42:27
October 31 2011 08:37 GMT
#1
By no mean am I claiming to have been the original discoverer of this I am simply revealing it to the community as I have seen many players become frustrated at losing their gas and even pro-players who would appear to not know about this

The technique is simple and I use it in all of my TvZ matchs in which zerg gets a drone in my main before the wall is complete. It allows me to kill the drone early and forget about trying to take it out while it repeatedly builds the geyser which frees up my early marines. This leaves zerg woundering if you took the gas or not and denies scouting with the drone potentially, and relieves alot of frustration.

The Technique
Once you think the player is going to attempt to steal your gas (in my case usually as first marine is popping)

-grab worker near unused geyser
-right click on geyser and your worker will go right next to it
-press hold position
-done


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the enemy can now not take your gas

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simple and effective.

UPDATE

as covetousrat pointed out you can counter this by moving your worker out of vision of the geyser then ordering the worker to build on the geyser in the fog your worker will then push the hold position worker out of the way and build it.
tested and confirmed
Naturally
lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 08:42:30
October 31 2011 08:42 GMT
#2
I have heard day9 talking about that little 'trick' at last MLG. Thank you for clarifying it with those pictures.
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 31 2011 08:42 GMT
#3
Well this is sweet, naturally.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 31 2011 08:45 GMT
#4
Yeah i first released this while watching SaSe's stream.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 31 2011 08:47 GMT
#5
On October 31 2011 17:45 ReachTheSky wrote:
Yeah i first released this while watching SaSe's stream.


Lol same as me, I saw it on SaSe's stream, I always do it now, even to just delay an opponent's gas.
NaturalHacks
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 08:50:22
October 31 2011 08:48 GMT
#6
lovedoctor, yea its not new by any means I first saw it a couple months ago in 1v1 obs metalopolis where people would be annoying with their critters and deny players gas for a little. Didn't realise day 9 already said it but oh well its easy access for anyone who doesn't know, that search's gas steal now .
Naturally
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
October 31 2011 08:58 GMT
#7
Oo........ now here's something BW failed to do..... :D
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 31 2011 13:04 GMT
#8
Yea its pretty awesome, like denying a drone getting to that refinery spot as terran, is a victory similar to a drone getting the hatch down on a probe.
ponyo.848
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
October 31 2011 13:06 GMT
#9
Someone posted this for the first time on TL with the release of 1.4 (I think) although some people have confirmed it has been around since beta. I personally didn't know about it until 1.4.

Still, a lot of people should find this useful.
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
October 31 2011 13:10 GMT
#10
Great trick. Especially important in PvZ as protoss is pretty much forced to take an early gas in that matchup, there simply isn't anything good you can do without two early gas. In PvP gas steal can be annoying too but because of the 4 gating and 1 gate FEing there are still good options when you do get gas stolen.
In any other matchups you shouldn't bother about a gas steal, you'll have a unit out to simply kill the refinery before you even want to take it.
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
October 31 2011 13:20 GMT
#11
You should know this by now if you play the game every now and then。
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 31 2011 13:21 GMT
#12
To counter this trick the drone can move out of sight from the gas and Build the Extractor. Move your Drone so you can't see the gas and proceed to build it. I head read this somewhere on TL from someone explained in the Hero vs MC game at MLG where Hero tries to double gas steal.
eatmybunnies
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 17:43:56
October 31 2011 17:43 GMT
#13
Well shit i thought i was the one who discovered this a year ago
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
October 31 2011 18:10 GMT
#14
On October 31 2011 22:21 covetousrat wrote:
To counter this trick the drone can move out of sight from the gas and Build the Extractor. Move your Drone so you can't see the gas and proceed to build it. I head read this somewhere on TL from someone explained in the Hero vs MC game at MLG where Hero tries to double gas steal.


And to counter that would be to have an scv on the drone non stop till it leaves the base or is killed.

covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 18:28:45
October 31 2011 18:19 GMT
#15
Btw I do not take credit for this. I think it was on the TL featured news report on MLG.

Cheers.

http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/10/15/mlg-orlando-day-1
drybones
Profile Joined August 2011
United States69 Posts
October 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#16
On October 31 2011 22:21 covetousrat wrote:
To counter this trick the drone can move out of sight from the gas and Build the Extractor. Move your Drone so you can't see the gas and proceed to build it. I head read this somewhere on TL from someone explained in the Hero vs MC game at MLG where Hero tries to double gas steal.


sigh back to square 1 lol
if ur not improving ur falling behind
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 31 2011 18:39 GMT
#17
WHAT THE FUCK
I am so happy 11/10
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
October 31 2011 19:30 GMT
#18
i dont see why gas stealing is even good in tvz. I dont entirely mind letting them waste a drone and wasting free minerals because there isnt really any point to get 2 gas before the very first fac created. And even if the zerg gas steals, u can do a early 1 rax CC build as a variation in response. Taking out one gas ONLY denies possibility of certain unit compo of 1-1-1, but thats honestly it.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10362 Posts
October 31 2011 19:31 GMT
#19
wow thank you for sharing! :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 31 2011 19:34 GMT
#20
Do this all the time, it's great if a Zerg wants to try to build an extractor to save his drone from your marine, then you put an scv near the geyser and are like "NAAAHH UHHH!!!!"
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