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Who didn't buy Oct GSL bc of "racial" uniformity?

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RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 16:42:27
September 28 2011 16:36 GMT
#1
I know that I and a friend of mine didn't buy a pass this season (though we've both bought every season prior) because we weren't interested in watching a majority of TvTs.

The above, of course, is anecdotal but I'm curious: did anyone else, who usually buy, also not buy this season?

I ask because I'm concerned about the long term health of the GSL (the best starcraft league) if the current lack of racial diversity continues.

I don't see it changing much TBH until, perhaps, HOTS. Even if "balance" or the meta game changes, the current format doesn't allow for significant racial change except over the course of 3+ months.

Did anyone else not buy because of this? If not, does GOM need to do something drastic?

Poll: Did you refrain from buying Oct GSL due to lack of Racial Diversity?

I didn't buy this season - only so much TvT I can take! (701)
 
51%

Even without Racial Diversity, it's still the GSL! (681)
 
49%

1382 total votes

Your vote: Did you refrain from buying Oct GSL due to lack of Racial Diversity?

(Vote): I didn't buy this season - only so much TvT I can take!
(Vote): Even without Racial Diversity, it's still the GSL!

Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 28 2011 16:38 GMT
#2
For me it's my first season of premium GSL and I'm enjoying it so far, not only Code S but also Code A
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 28 2011 16:38 GMT
#3
I bought for the last few seasons but stopped for this season and the last season because too many TvT hurt my finky little brain =/

In HoTS, I forsee a similar problem, perhaps with zerg units this time.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 16:54:45
September 28 2011 16:38 GMT
#4
It is only lacking in Code S which can change, it isn't going to stay TvT forever, look at Code A only 1 terran has made it to the Semi-Finals with 2 protoss and 1 zerg.

Plus I mainly just buy the ticket for Code A anyways, but the TvT in Code S does not bother me at all so it was worth it for me.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 28 2011 16:39 GMT
#5
Maybe you can put a poll for this?
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
September 28 2011 16:40 GMT
#6
Would buy any GSL when they start accepting credticard over just PayPal.
Woop Woop!
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 28 2011 16:40 GMT
#7
I don't watch to see a certain race, I watch to see amazing players play amazing games and that's what the GSL delivers consistently (minus the finals lol).

It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
September 28 2011 16:41 GMT
#8
I've skipped this one and another one because I know I'm going to be busier for a bit. Didn't make the decision harder, though.
Stabby.aus
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia94 Posts
September 28 2011 16:41 GMT
#9
i was super cautious about buying a season ticket because of the mass TvT, but i bought one anyway because its only 10$ and the quality of code A is really high this season!

RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
September 28 2011 16:42 GMT
#10
On September 29 2011 01:39 -Archangel- wrote:
Maybe you can put a poll for this?


Good idea, added.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12992 Posts
September 28 2011 16:43 GMT
#11
I usually don't buy seasons because I was able to see GSL when I was on holidays, but seeing that I can't watch it anymore and that the quality is bad when I can watch it, I thought about buying a ticket. But I didn't because MKP got eliminated in group stages, thus I won't see him play. And I think the amount of TvT sucks a bit, but if for example there was almost the same amount of terrans + MKP, Polt, TOP and HongUn I will buy it anyways because even if that many tvt is boring, I am terran myself and I want to watch the new tvt metagame evolve, and certain players that I like (NesTea, DRG, Leenock, Mvp, Bomber + MKP/Polt/HongUn/TOP if they went to ro16 is a good enough number of players I want to watch)
WriterMaru
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 28 2011 16:43 GMT
#12
For a second, I thought you meant racial diversity meaning Koreans and other ethnic groups.
To be honest, there are an abundant amount of Terrans, but how can GSL fix that?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
September 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#13
I don't care about TvT or not, I wanna see the best of the best. If the best players in the world are Terrans, then be it. I've bought every single ticket so far, and I won't stop.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
September 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#14
Code A, apparently, has been entertaining but it's a shame to buy something for only half the value.

If they just sold Code A separately I would have probably bought though.
RivalryRedux
Profile Joined July 2009
United States173 Posts
September 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#15
You really should add another option to distinguish people that aren't buying it anyways from people who aren't buying it specifically because of diversity.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
September 28 2011 16:45 GMT
#16
On September 29 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
For a second, I thought you meant racial diversity meaning Koreans and other ethnic groups.
To be honest, there are an abundant amount of Terrans, but how can GSL fix that?


IMO that's why they did the AOL invitational so they could invite a balanced number of players "racially".
galivet
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
September 28 2011 16:46 GMT
#17
I didn't buy one. The best way to encourage GOM to be more proactive in producing maps that ameliorate balance problems in the game is to vote with your wallet.

I've been tracking the GSL via the Tournaments forum, and from what I've read there, I would only care to see three or four of the matches that I can't see for free anyway (Sage!).

Until all three races are regularly well-represented up to the Ro4, I don't plan to buy another ticket. It's disheartening to watch the player who genuinely plays better lose because individual mistakes are more costly for one race than another.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
September 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#18
I didn't buy it. I have actually lost a lot of interest since the BFH revolution at MLG a few months ago. It might be different now but my overall passion as a spectator has really diminished.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
September 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#19
On September 29 2011 01:44 RivalryRedux wrote:
You really should add another option to distinguish people that aren't buying it anyways from people who aren't buying it specifically because of diversity.


hm good idea (though it is kind of inferred) but I'm a forum noob - can you edit polls?
ahx
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada132 Posts
September 28 2011 16:49 GMT
#20
I didn't buy a pass this season because TvT has got to be the most boring mirror to spectate, unless you play Terran... i guess, but I don't, so I don't like watching hours of TvT. But, this isn't GSL/GOM's fault, they can't control what race the top players are using.
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