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compLexity and Mill come to agreement

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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 02:09:44
September 21 2011 23:07 GMT
#1
Today, compLexity and Millenium are pleased to announce that the Stephano situation has come to an end. Complexity and Millenium have agreed to a settlement, in which a significant fine will be paid by Stephano in consideration of his role in creating the situation, and all parties now consider the matter closed.

Comments from Jason Bass, COO of compLexity Gaming:

"It was never compLexity's intention to damage the career of a young eSports talent nor to force someone to join our gaming organization who did not want to. We did, however, feel that maintaining the integrity of the player contract was crucial not only for our own business but for eSports in general. For that reason, we are satisfied that there has been a strong penalty, as player contracts need to be respected going forward.

We would also like to respectfully address the concerns of the French community who are upset that we did not have a more direct negotiation with Millenium during this process. Due to the fact Stephano was not contracted by Millenium and the fact he stated he was receiving counter offers in response to our discussions, we did not contact Millenium directly and for that we are regretful and apologize for any perceived disrespect."

Comments from Cedric Page, CEO of Millenium:

"Millenium has never ignored on purpose any attempt from Complexity to establish communication. Time difference fully accounts for the few hours it took us to respond to them. Additionally, Millenium was never aware of, nor involved in, a bidding/counterbidding process with Complexity over Stephano's contract situation. All things being now clarified, and after a calm discussion with Complexity, we would also like to apologize for stating that Complexity 'disoriented' Stephano during their talks with him. It was an inappropriate comment and we did not mean to be disrespectful. We are very happy to clarify this, as we had decided to discuss with Complexity before stating anything more than our last statement."

Everyone now considers this matter closed, and all parties wish each other the best in their future endeavors.

Lastly, compLexity and Millenium would also like to thank Alexander Garfield of Evil Geniuses for acting as the mediator of our discussions during this challenging time. His time and efforts avoided a clash that was most certainly headed for litigation, had a reasonable settlement not been reached.

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3136/
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
September 21 2011 23:07 GMT
#2
Should probably be the Starcraft 2 section.

I'm glad this situation is resolved.
tsarnicky
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#3
good news, but bad news: wrong forum
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#4
Damn, sorry i put this in the wrong section, sorry can a MOD move it please?
No Artosis, you are robin
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 21 2011 23:09 GMT
#5
Moved. Good to hear things were resolved.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
September 21 2011 23:09 GMT
#6
wording of that suggests stephano is paying the fines alone, which would be kinda funny.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 21 2011 23:09 GMT
#7
ok sounds like the right way to handle it. too bad for complexity. also unfortunate for stephano.
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MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#8
hopefully mill helped him with the payment
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OasiS.oasis
Profile Joined May 2010
79 Posts
September 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#9
Very unfortunate for Stephano, I bet this is costing him a lot of money compare to what he has in the bank.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 21 2011 23:11 GMT
#10
EG just got themselves some good will with their role here
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Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
September 21 2011 23:11 GMT
#11
It probably means that a few of his salaries will go to complexity. Sounds like a good end to this, he was the first responsible here.
Scar
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands26 Posts
September 21 2011 23:11 GMT
#12
Sounds like the best solution. Happy to hear there was no need for them to pursue it legally.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
September 21 2011 23:11 GMT
#13
Well that's a good solution for this thing.
Contracts do matter in SC2!
And an agreement is certainly better than a law suit.
Stephano, learn from it and focus on your amazing play.
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#14
Bad move for Stephano, his skills would improve much more in Korea under Col's banner.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#15
On September 22 2011 08:09 zev318 wrote:
wording of that suggests stephano is paying the fines alone, which would be kinda funny.

If he is, that will be pretty backwards imo, but I'm guessing Col just says he is, because he's to them the one that caused the issue and therefor the one they penalize, but Mill *must* be paying it for him.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#16
ESPORTS

wp by both parties, still feel Mill was being aggressive throughout but now most of the blame falls on stephano. coL did what was right
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#17
:O EG were the good guys in this story... something i did NOT expect XD

sigh Stephano -.- all the best to you
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Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#18
Glad to see things have finally been settled, now let's all move on from this :D
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Nourek
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany188 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#19
I wouldn't want to see anyone having to play on a team he didn't want to be on, but I also don't want to see contracts just disregarded, so I think this is a good solution.

(for ESPORTS! )
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
September 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#20
On September 22 2011 08:10 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
hopefully mill helped him with the payment


Definitely. That would suck for him, especially if Mil played a big role in him not being on coL.
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