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Shiori
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
stephano looked pretty damn strong lately | ||
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hassook
United Arab Emirates16 Posts
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AnnoyingNoob
Norway18 Posts
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tadL
Croatia679 Posts
so plz team liquid community: sb with actually better english then me (plz) should just read a bit in esport history and do some education articles. | ||
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tadL
Croatia679 Posts
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crackcc
114 Posts
Why do people keep saying that '' Stephano would be better off with complexity as he would be able to train in Korea since they have partnered up with MVP '' How many Complexity players do you know that are in Korea ??? Seriously ??? All the Col players I know of are NOT in Korea & don't train with Koreans. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On September 26 2011 14:43 crackcc wrote: Im confused ! Why do people keep saying that '' Stephano would be better off with complexity as he would be able to train in Korea since they have partnered up with MVP '' How many Complexity players do you know that are in Korea ??? Seriously ??? All the Col players I know of are NOT in Korea & don't train with Koreans. Naniwa. And Drewbie. Don't know if Drewbie is still there though. | ||
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crackcc
114 Posts
On September 26 2011 14:45 OminouS wrote: Naniwa. And Drewbie. Don't know if Drewbie is still there though. Right but what about rsvp ryan Ryze CrunCher CatZ Minigun Trimaster Only Naniwa & Drewbie ( maybe ) are in Korea. What makes you think that they would send Stehpano to Korea and not 80% of their roster ? It's really easy to say '' I would have done this for you & given you this ... if you would have stayed with us '' ! I'm sure that if going to Korea was in Stephanos contract he wouldn't have gone back to Mil. Same goes for the money. I can understand that loyalty to your team & national pride can tip the scale if the difference is not to big, but if the money was way more then the Mil contract then Stephano would have gone to Col. Much like Huk & Puma, if the contracts from their former teams would have been near their new contract they would have stayed for loyatly to their team/players/country etc ... but if the difference is huge then they will make the right decision. They're not stupid ! Its just too easy to say '' If you would have stayed with me I would have given you the world ... but ... its too late now ''. The only way this could actually be true or at least believable is if they would give HUGE contracts to ALL their players & send then ALL to Korea ! Otherwise its just a desperate & pitiful way of saying '' You made the wrong choice & you'll regret it ''. I am glad that Col & Mil settled their conflict in a proper & mature way, much like a professional, ''real'' sports team would, & not the '' internet way '' where proper laws are not respected & teams bad mouth each other on their websites ( Kind of like what Mil started to do on the Stephano incident ). | ||
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Eroqa150
United States11 Posts
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nick1689
Australia494 Posts
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crackcc
114 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:12 nick1689 wrote: Is Stephano still going to the MLGs? Yes ! At least Millenium said so. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:07 crackcc wrote: Right but what about rsvp ryan Ryze CrunCher CatZ Minigun Trimaster Only Naniwa & Drewbie ( maybe ) are in Korea. What makes you think that they would send Stehpano to Korea and not 80% of their roster ? It's really easy to say '' I would have done this for you & given you this ... if you would have stayed with us '' ! I'm sure that if going to Korea was in Stephanos contract he wouldn't have gone back to Mil. Same goes for the money. I can understand that loyalty to your team & national pride can tip the scale if the difference is not to big, but if the money was way more then the Mil contract then Stephano would have gone to Col. Much like Huk & Puma, if the contracts from their former teams would have been near their new contract they would have stayed for loyatly to their team/players/country etc ... but if the difference is huge then they will make the right decision. They're not stupid ! Its just too easy to say '' If you would have stayed with me I would have given you the world ... but ... its too late now ''. The only way this could actually be true or at least believable is if they would give HUGE contracts to ALL their players & send then ALL to Korea ! Otherwise its just a desperate & pitiful way of saying '' You made the wrong choice & you'll regret it ''. I am glad that Col & Mil settled their conflict in a proper & mature way, much like a professional, ''real'' sports team would, & not the '' internet way '' where proper laws are not respected & teams bad mouth each other on their websites ( Kind of like what Mil started to do on the Stephano incident ). Complexity hasn't had the deal with MVP for very long. I'm sure some of their players don't want to go to Korea either. To say only Drewbie and Naniwa have gone is short sighted. How many Millennium players have gone? CoL has some of the best resources in the entire scene to support their players in Korea. Only Liquid and FXO match them right now. EG will be added to that list once they get their team house set up. If you don't think coL would send him to Korea, if thats what he wanted, well you are just being naive. They know how good Stephano is and how good he could be with time in Korea. And Drewbie is still in Korea, he will be there until MLG Orlando. How many teams have supported their players in Korea without MLG help? FXO, Liquid and EG are the only ones I can think of (besides coL). All the Dignitas guys qualified through MLG and get stuff paid for by GOM/MLG. To suggest that coL wouldn't have actually sent him to Korea is just dumb when they have all the resources to do so. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:07 crackcc wrote: Right but what about rsvp ryan Ryze CrunCher CatZ Minigun Trimaster Only Naniwa & Drewbie ( maybe ) are in Korea. What makes you think that they would send Stehpano to Korea and not 80% of their roster ? It's really easy to say '' I would have done this for you & given you this ... if you would have stayed with us '' ! I'm sure that if going to Korea was in Stephanos contract he wouldn't have gone back to Mil. Same goes for the money. I can understand that loyalty to your team & national pride can tip the scale if the difference is not to big, but if the money was way more then the Mil contract then Stephano would have gone to Col. Much like Huk & Puma, if the contracts from their former teams would have been near their new contract they would have stayed for loyatly to their team/players/country etc ... but if the difference is huge then they will make the right decision. They're not stupid ! Its just too easy to say '' If you would have stayed with me I would have given you the world ... but ... its too late now ''. The only way this could actually be true or at least believable is if they would give HUGE contracts to ALL their players & send then ALL to Korea ! Otherwise its just a desperate & pitiful way of saying '' You made the wrong choice & you'll regret it ''. I am glad that Col & Mil settled their conflict in a proper & mature way, much like a professional, ''real'' sports team would, & not the '' internet way '' where proper laws are not respected & teams bad mouth each other on their websites ( Kind of like what Mil started to do on the Stephano incident ). Do you really think that if they were going to pay Stephano a bunch of money, already have partners in Korea, and already have 2 of their own players in Korea that they couldn't simply work out a deal to get him to Korea, especially when that was one of his goals? Really? Do you really think that? ??? | ||
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CDMVR
United States92 Posts
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Vira
573 Posts
http://www.esportsfrance.com/actualites/26151/ The title is : "GSL is not one of my goal" He dont even watch gsl. | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:14 Vira wrote: Stephano said several times going to Korea is not a goal for him, http://www.esportsfrance.com/actualites/26151/ The title is : "GSL is not one of my goal" He dont even watch gsl. You didn't understand his point. He said that if he goes to Korea one day it will be to train and not especially to win GSL. GSL is not his goal, but going to Korea to train would interest him. | ||
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CDMVR
United States92 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:14 Vira wrote: Stephano said several times going to Korea is not a goal for him, http://www.esportsfrance.com/actualites/26151/ The title is : "GSL is not one of my goal" He dont even watch gsl. way to take words out of context... | ||
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crackcc
114 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:54 jmbthirteen wrote: Complexity hasn't had the deal with MVP for very long. I'm sure some of their players don't want to go to Korea either. To say only Drewbie and Naniwa have gone is short sighted. How many Millennium players have gone? CoL has some of the best resources in the entire scene to support their players in Korea. Only Liquid and FXO match them right now. EG will be added to that list once they get their team house set up. If you don't think coL would send him to Korea, if thats what he wanted, well you are just being naive. They know how good Stephano is and how good he could be with time in Korea. And Drewbie is still in Korea, he will be there until MLG Orlando. How many teams have supported their players in Korea without MLG help? FXO, Liquid and EG are the only ones I can think of (besides coL). All the Dignitas guys qualified through MLG and get stuff paid for by GOM/MLG. To suggest that coL wouldn't have actually sent him to Korea is just dumb when they have all the resources to do so. To say only drewbie and naniwa have gone to kora is not short sighted its a fact ! How else do you want to put it ... its a fact. No player more or less has gone to korea from Col ! '' Has gone '' & not '' will possibly go '' is what we are talking about. If you mix the two ( have gone & may go ) is like saying somethin along the lines of : '' Saying Destiny hasen't won MLG yet is short sighted, he is activly training & plans to compete in the next couple of MLGs. If he hasen't won before he probably didn't want to win yet ''. LOL  If you're sure that many of the Col don't want to go to korea ( seriously ? ) then why don't you think the same about stephano ? Especially since he has stated that Gsl is not a priority for him & many of the Col players ( other then naniwa & drewbie ) have never mentioned their lack of interest in Gsl ( I can imagine Catz & Trimaster would like to go to Korea ) ! Its easy to say '' ohh you could have gone to korea if you would have stayed with us '' While the majority of Col players are not in Korea. As for the other dude below you who said that Col sends their players to more tournaments. I don't think thats true either. Many Mil players go to mlg not to mention ALL the european tournaments that they qualify for. As for Col not many of their players have been flown out to european tournaments ... off the top of my head I can't think of any players that went to european tournaments ( while on team Complexity. This is very important as many of them have flown to different tournaments like naniwa for instance but while on another team ), but I could be VERY wrong as I don't really follow the Col players other then naniwa catz & drewbie & they haven't been with Col for very long. Anyways I don't know how you can talk about the tuture as if it were fact like '' they will send more players to Korea ''. My point was, and if you think about it, it makes sense no ; If going to korea ( or getting a huge salary ) was in stephanos contract ( or even if it had been promised to him ) he would have stayed with Col ... Basically all the people saying that Col would have been a much much much better deal for Stephano are insulting his intelligence. It's like Huk & Puma, same example. These guys are not stupid. If the deal is life changing they wil leave their team ( even huge, famous & legendary teams like team liquid, who also send players to korea ) & leave their country & teamates & coach ( who they owe their career to & have deen ties of friendship like Huk did ) for the better contract. So saying that the Col deal for stephano was much better ( in any way ), and I emphasize on the MUCH part as I'm fairly certain that the pay would have been better with Col but apparantly not enough for it to really matter like it did for Huk & Puma, well if it was much better then the Mil deal then Stephano would have stayed with Col. To say otherwise is seriously demeaning & frankly insulting to Stephano. Anyways thats my take on this thing :D ... I'm sorry if I repeat myself or don't make sense at times I can't proof read this I'm super super tired ... my eyes shut a ffew times writing this | ||
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