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On September 12 2011 04:28 wherebugsgo wrote: /in OH WTF YES LOL Oh yay, WBG can carry me again =P | ||
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On September 16 2011 08:48 GMarshal wrote: Now I *really* want to play :-( Damn school. Fuck school, catch scum. | ||
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On September 16 2011 12:25 TranceStorm wrote: Hey everyone. I haven't played a mafia game in a few months, and would love to get /in on this one :o). OH HEY LOOK I FOUND THE LAST ONE | ||
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Activity: You must post in this thread five times per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled. I like this. Lurkers have always been my least favorite thing about playing forum mafia. On September 17 2011 09:19 GreYMisT wrote: Well looks like I succeeded in getting discussion going. Out of the three people who voted for me immediately, only Dr. H and chaises gave a good reason. Daz, any other reason rather than "I agree," or is your vote a sheep vote? Yes, you got discussion going, but at what end? Either your scum, and if we gave it to you, we'd be fucked Day 1. Or you're town, and if we gave it to you, you'd be killed tonight, and we'd be fucked Night 1. Either way, pretty pointless. Although I assume the one with the Ring wouldn't be dumb enough to give it away so early anyway. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and assume it was indeed just to "get the discussion going". It's been a while since I've read the Hobbit, but Bilbo gets the Ring from Gollum right? I'm pretty sure it was through some riddle. I think it's safe to speculate that Gollum starts with the Ring, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was third party. On September 17 2011 08:43 prplhz wrote: Gollum was clearly evil and the Ents were clearly good, although they were pretty lazy. Ask yourself, would an omnipotent Gollum have sided with Gandalf? Would an omnipotent Treebeard have sided with Sauron? Also, why are we talking about neutral factions when we should clearly be talking about Voldemort and the Ring Wraiths? Oh you. | ||
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On September 17 2011 12:54 Navillus wrote: EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know. "I'm bad, so that's why I'm playing bad" generally doesn't run as a legitimate excuse for slipping up or a bad claim. | ||
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On September 17 2011 15:52 TranceStorm wrote: I don't understand why someone saying 'I had the ring guys, I managed to pass it off, but I'm not saying to who' would be that harmful. If they do so, they can also reveal what the ring does which reduces much of the speculation about what the ring actually does and how it affects the game. I agree that there is uncertainty. That's why I dropped the whole 'chain' part. I see that it is far too risky and I assumed to much. But having one player (who can choose to do this or not and specifically when they want to do so as well) claim after passing the ring on and telling the town about the ring's effects would help. Of course, this would cause alot of scrutiny, but that would be no different from when any other person claims a role. And if you believe that I'm scum, that's fine, but you would be making an incorrect choice. In the end, it was simply an idea I had to bounce around ideas. Did our discussion harm the town? No it didn't. Misinformation and confusion is what scum thrives on. They plant little seeds in the town and let them grow based off of rocky information. Wanting people to claim puts the town in a position where they have to worry about fake claims after people passed it. WIFOM is not the town's friend. On September 17 2011 16:22 wherebugsgo wrote: Bitch please. I can make lists too. 1. Give me the ring. 2. I haven't alluded to why I want it. 3. TranceStorm is scum, it's obvious enough. I don't need to provide reasons when he sets himself up as he's already done. Yes, you do. Reasons always need to be provided. Votes without reasons are scummy. I'd be very surprised if WBG is scum though. After watching his town play in Resurrection Mafia, I'd be hard pressed to believe his scum play is this blatant. On September 17 2011 19:23 xtfftc wrote: Also, none of the currently discussed lynch targets are viable. They are all easy ones. I'd rather go for a random lynch out of the remaining players. So...you just want to pick someone random? Random lynches are dumb. Lynches need to have a basis. And while it's true that town often gets the first lynch wrong, we won't learn much of anything from lynching a random target. | ||
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Trance's idea seemed more like ignorance than scum play. A problem with his idea, though, was that the player who receives the ring doesn't know who he got it from, so there really isn't any way to have a confirmed chain of people like he wanted. I don't have any idea how to feel about WBG, but I'll stand by what I said before. I don't think his scum play would be this bad. | ||
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On September 18 2011 01:13 chaoser wrote: My vote on greymist (not even a vote since I didn't ACTUALLY VOTE in the voting thread) was merely a way to start some discussion. I didn't actually think for a minute that he was actually being serious. From that action, I'm leaning on Dr.H and Drazerk being town since they immediately pick up on what I'm trying to do and votes to put pressure on greymist. I feel like leaning town on them might be a somewhat large leap for joining you on the vote on greymist. You didn't put your vote in the thread, so Drazerk was the first one to actually vote for him. He seemed to jump on it really quickly. While you might just see it as them joining your pressure on grey, I'm a bit more skeptical about it, and I don't want to just feel like it was townies playing well and recognizing a pressure play. Scum jumping a bandwagon looks pretty similar. | ||
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On September 18 2011 07:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote: O Hai! You've got a fair bit to catch up on yet. Keep in mind while catching up that the minimum is 5 posts per day/night. On wherebugsgo, I get the distinct impression he's just a townie who wanted to have the ring and decided acting as Smeagol and demanding the ring until people got bored of it was better than trying to defend himself actively. I'm willing to bet there is no posting restriction, in fact I think it was explicitly stated somewhere that there wasn't. That said, I'd be comfortable with a lynch on him on the off-chance he is telling the truth about being third party, purely because that seems to make him a safer bet than most others. I agree with you that there's almost definitely no post restriction. Notice how his posts went from all saying "gimme the ring", and now they aren't. I may be missing a pattern, but I don't think he's following restrictions. Also, @chaoser: Let me clarify "somewhat large leap". I took "leaning town" to mean "I'm going to put them aside for now, and look for others." That didn't sit right with me because I don't feel comfortable with the bandwagon/town pressuring (however you want to see it) of grey. | ||
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For Erandorr and Palmar to just make one post and nothing else...come on. There is still quite a bit of the day left, but we need more than "sup". Lurkers hurt town. I want to see what their next 4 posts are (working on the assumption that they'll do the bare minimum). | ||
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On September 18 2011 11:02 GreYMisT wrote: Is everyone ignoring this because this is standard Jee-Jee? or did people honestly miss it? Bah, I also meant to mention his name along with era and palmar. Posting on iPhone ftl. I don't know what JeeJee's play is like. | ||
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On September 18 2011 18:22 prplhz wrote: all of you kids going "oh we not gonna hit scum today lets just all vote random" you're not doing it right of course we are not going to hit anybody if you don't even give it a try i like drh navillus and jackal as candidates for lynches right now People are saying that they don't expect to hit scum today. This is true. From a purely mathematical basis, chances are against the town. Now add in null tells, bad reads, and mistells, and our chances aren't really better. But for the most part, people aren't voting randomly. They are offering analysis and reasoning (for the most part) behind their votes. If this post was an attempt by you to shell some people off of voting for you, I'll say you failed hard. It's had the opposite effect on me. Please share some REASONS behind your suspicions of drh, navi, and jackal. Give us a REASON to believe you other than saying "I like them for lynches". Also, @WBG, you posted exactly what I wanted to say about Archon. It was a post that made me jackiechanwtf.jpg IRL. Archon and Py both only start posting when they are called out for inactivity? AND the posts are not entirely useful (much less useful from archon). Come on guys. Don't make us beg for your activity. Lurkers always seem scummy. If you want to play with the town, you actually have to play. | ||
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On September 18 2011 21:25 Jackal58 wrote: My vote is going on Bugs. Having played a couple of games with him now I know he is aggressive as town. He has not trolled any games to this point. His activity level is the same but his style is different. I don't believe he is mafia but I do believe he is 3rd party with a separate win condition from town. Right now I see two options for him. Lynch him or give him the ring and see what happens. If he and the ring leave the game that is probably not a bad thing. If we lynch him and the ring stays in the game that's probably not quite as optimal but still not a bad thing. Worse case scenario is they are both still here tomorrow. If you have the ring give it to Bugs. I can't believe that will end the game. The ring is inherently evil anyways. O_o rather daring to completely go against what everyone has been saying. While I don't feel that WBG is mafia, I also feel like I don't want to give the ring to people who beg for it day 1. Other than Bugs the only person that has struck me as off is Heist. I'm more sure of Bugs not being town than I am of Heist being scum so Bugs is getting my vote. [/QUOTE] ?????? Heist is the only person who has struck you as off? What? How about JeeJee coming, making one contentless post and voting for himself? What about archon and Py posting immediately after being called out? You sure are going against the current paradigm, mr. Jackal | ||
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On September 18 2011 21:34 jcarlsoniv wrote: Other than Bugs the only person that has struck me as off is Heist. I'm more sure of Bugs not being town than I am of Heist being scum so Bugs is getting my vote. [/QUOTE]O_o rather daring to completely go against what everyone has been saying. While I don't feel that WBG is mafia, I also feel like I don't want to give the ring to people who beg for it day 1. ?????? Heist is the only person who has struck you as off? What? How about JeeJee coming, making one contentless post and voting for himself? What about archon and Py posting immediately after being called out? You sure are going against the current paradigm, mr. Jackal[/QUOTE] derp | ||
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I hope you guys caught the jist of that. @prpl: I didn't say I was gving up because of math. You said people were voting randomly, and I argued against that point. | ||
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already shared reasons for my vote on drh and i'm quite sure other people wrote pieces on nav and jack which i'm not gonna parrot. Also this. I didnt want you to "parrot" other peoples' posts. I wanted your reasons for tossing them onto the list. I now see your reasons on jackal, but navi? | ||
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Those who's votes are not on the main lynch candidates need to get them on the (at least) 3 main targets. The more scattered the votes are, the more beneficial for the scum. It looks like WBG, prpl, and jackal are the front runners. It worries me how quickly the votes for jackal piled up, although he was inactive until recently. So cyber, JeeJee, GGQ, drh, cir...could you put your votes in a place where they will be useful? Now that I think about it, we haven't ears for drh or radfield in a while. | ||
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If there aren't posts to observe, there aren't patterns to observe, and connections can't be made. You are basically saying "I don't want people to focus on WBG or prpl, and I want to complete turn the votes around with very little left in the day". On top of it, you're getting very personal. What's wrong? Did we offend you and your scum buddies? | ||
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