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EDIT: I want to thank all the responses so far and the fact that there has not been a flame war. Obviously it could have gone that way quickly yet the biggest argument thus far has been about MC who won't even be at MLG (this has since changed), so I appreciate that you guys have kept it flame free! Kudos to you. I understand with the way the internet goes why there are so many replies of "close the thread its a flame war waiting to happen" to preemptively avoid flaming, but if threads are preemptively shut down that isn't helping anyone. I understand and agree if one starts that a mod should and will shut this down immediately and I appreciate that it hasn't been...yet. Most of you have the right idea that if you fear listing players that are on your bottom three for any reason, then don't list them!
I wanted to hear some responses to who people HOPE to win and who you HOPE to fail at Columbus this weekend. Note--There is a difference between expecting and hoping. We expect the koreans to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but I don't know that many of us are hoping that happens.
Also note: To win doesn't necessarily mean the entire thing. Making it to the championship bracket is a win in most players books
For me:
To win!
Destiny--Before Dallas on SOTG the pillars basically said hes good but not great and won't do well, he doesn't take practice very seriously, etc. Well he has now qualified for IPL2 (something Tyler failed to do) and I hope this gives him some confidence to tear up the open bracket. Hopefully this time he doesn't let any spires die from being off of creep...
Tyler--This guy needs a win. Rumors of him quitting (which he denied on SOTG), and I dont want him to. Mostly because it would be bad for esports if he did, but either way. I want him to do well enough to reinvigorate his play and stop himself from feeling like he isn't performing to his own standards
Catz-- I split him away from destiny to make it look like im not Root or zerg biased...but I am. He took a game off MC which means he can at least make a good showing against the best in the world and hes generally just a nice and funny guy.
To fail!
Gretorp--Dear god, the guy has the 16th seed for Dallas because 2 people decide not so show and then he goes something like 2-5 (by all means correct me, but I'm pretty confident it was a very losing record) and gets 16th seed again. Someone please just knock him out of the pool play already. I don't mind him as a person so much, but just based on results and continued "success" in MLG it makes me sad that the system works in a way where someone can have pretty bad results, but still get seeded.
Major--Anyone who thinks they deserve to get paid based on non-existent results deserves to get a swift kick in the teeth. Couple that with the rumored/theorized hacking and consistent team jumping...While I would never hope bad things on Artosis, I want his first recruitment to end in a very early exit from Columbus.
1-2 Koreans--Everyone knows they are extremely good but I wouldn't mind watching a few of them get destroyed if for nothing more than to give a bit more confidence to the west. Even after the WC Team portion almost every western tournament is still a tournament without koreans, and therefore tier 2. Heres to hoping a few are put in their place this weekend. The only problem I see with this is if they do get destroyed everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best" but at least players like bomber, MMA, losira are considered among the top and can't forget the super secret unannounced but still known + Show Spoiler + who is sure to tear apart the open bracket.
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On June 02 2011 04:31 neo_sporin wrote:I wanted to hear some responses to who people HOPE to win and who you HOPE to fail at Columbus this weekend. Note--There is a difference between expecting and hoping. We expect the koreans to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but I don't know that many of us are hoping that happens. Also note: To win doesn't necessarily mean the entire thing. Making it to the championship bracket is a win in most players books For me: To win! Destiny--Before Dallas on SOTG the pillars basically said hes good but not great and won't do well, he doesn't take practice very seriouslt, etc. Well he has now qualified for IPL2 (something Tyler failed to do) and I hope this gives him some confidence to tear up the open bracket. Hopefully this time he doesn't let any spires die from being off of creep... Tyler--This guy needs a win. Rumors of him quitting (which he denied on SOTG), and I dont want him to. Mostly because it would be bad for esports if he did, but either way. I want him to do well enough to reinvigorate his play and stop himself from feeling like he isn't performing to his own standards Catz-- I split him away from destiny to make it look like im not Root or zerg biased...but I am. He took a game off MC which means he can at least make a good showing against the best in the world and hes generally just a nice and funny guy. To fail! Gretorp--Dear god, the guy has the 16th seed for Dallas because 2 people decide not so show and then he goes something like 2-5 (by all means correct me, but I'm pretty confident it was a very losing record) and gets 16th seed again. Someone please just knock him out of the pool play already. I don't mind him as a person so much, but just based on results and continued "success" in MLG it makes me sad that the system works in a way where someone can have pretty bad results, but still get seeded. Major--Anyone who thinks they deserve to get paid based on non-existent results deserves to get a swift kick in the teeth. Couple that with the rumored/theorized hacking and consistent team jumping...While I would never hope bad things on Artosis, I want his first recruitment to end in a very early exit from Columbus. 1-2 Koreans--Everyone knows they are extremely good but I wouldn't mind watching a few of them get destroyed if for nothing more than to give a bit more confidence to the west. Even after the WC Team portion almost every western tournament is still a tournament without koreans, and therefore tier 2. Heres to hoping a few are put in their place this weekend. The only problem I see with this is if they do get destroyed everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best" but at least players like bomber, MMA, losira are considered among the top and can't forget the super secret unannounced but still known + Show Spoiler + who is sure to tear apart the open bracket.
You don't find and grow new talent by not paying and accommodating it. Big time sports pay rookies very well if they have a lot of potential. If you see the same in a player SC 2 should be no different. Don't blame him for wanting some kind of financial support.
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People to succeed:all the team liquid players that will be there, Root gaming, and Dignitas.
People to fail epically:Only Moon, and Losira(mma, bomber, and the CSN hopeful can do well i hope...)
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to win: Mr.bitter idrA and catZ(in that order mr.bitter being first place)
to fail: Cruncher any terran and any toss besides cruncher
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"everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best""
I beg to differ! Did you even watch TSL3?
Thorzain 2-0 Fruitdealer
Adelscott 2-0 MVP
Thorzain 3-0 MC MOD EDIT: It was 3-2
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To win:
Demuslim, major, thorzain
To lose:
Catz, Destiny, Tyler
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Having a hope to fail section is just asking for trouble.
What is the point in a thread like that? If I say I hope Destiny, Idra, and Bomber don't win a single game, the thread will turn to shit in a matter of seconds.
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On June 02 2011 04:33 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 04:31 neo_sporin wrote:I wanted to hear some responses to who people HOPE to win and who you HOPE to fail at Columbus this weekend. Note--There is a difference between expecting and hoping. We expect the koreans to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but I don't know that many of us are hoping that happens. Also note: To win doesn't necessarily mean the entire thing. Making it to the championship bracket is a win in most players books For me: To win! Destiny--Before Dallas on SOTG the pillars basically said hes good but not great and won't do well, he doesn't take practice very seriouslt, etc. Well he has now qualified for IPL2 (something Tyler failed to do) and I hope this gives him some confidence to tear up the open bracket. Hopefully this time he doesn't let any spires die from being off of creep... Tyler--This guy needs a win. Rumors of him quitting (which he denied on SOTG), and I dont want him to. Mostly because it would be bad for esports if he did, but either way. I want him to do well enough to reinvigorate his play and stop himself from feeling like he isn't performing to his own standards Catz-- I split him away from destiny to make it look like im not Root or zerg biased...but I am. He took a game off MC which means he can at least make a good showing against the best in the world and hes generally just a nice and funny guy. To fail! Gretorp--Dear god, the guy has the 16th seed for Dallas because 2 people decide not so show and then he goes something like 2-5 (by all means correct me, but I'm pretty confident it was a very losing record) and gets 16th seed again. Someone please just knock him out of the pool play already. I don't mind him as a person so much, but just based on results and continued "success" in MLG it makes me sad that the system works in a way where someone can have pretty bad results, but still get seeded. Major--Anyone who thinks they deserve to get paid based on non-existent results deserves to get a swift kick in the teeth. Couple that with the rumored/theorized hacking and consistent team jumping...While I would never hope bad things on Artosis, I want his first recruitment to end in a very early exit from Columbus. 1-2 Koreans--Everyone knows they are extremely good but I wouldn't mind watching a few of them get destroyed if for nothing more than to give a bit more confidence to the west. Even after the WC Team portion almost every western tournament is still a tournament without koreans, and therefore tier 2. Heres to hoping a few are put in their place this weekend. The only problem I see with this is if they do get destroyed everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best" but at least players like bomber, MMA, losira are considered among the top and can't forget the super secret unannounced but still known + Show Spoiler + who is sure to tear apart the open bracket. You don't find and grow new talent by not paying and accommodating it. Big time sports pay rookies very well if they have a lot of potential. If you see the same in a player SC 2 should be no different. Don't blame him for wanting some kind of financial support.
That's fine Serpio but I believe the problem neo_sporin has with Gosi[Terran] isn't with him getting/wanting more sponsorship money but the way he publicly attacked former teams because he felt he deserved more after understanding terms full well just weeks before.
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I'd love to see Gretorp do well because, as indicated by OP, he's an underdog. He is a high master on KR and I have been very impressed by his play on stream. If nerves don't get the better, I think he will surprise some people.
As for Major, while I have my own reasons for not rooting for him, your justification being that he has yet to win anything seems very mean-spirited to me.
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On June 02 2011 04:35 apm66 wrote:
"everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best""
I beg to differ! Did you even watch TSL3?
Thorzain 2-0 Fruitdealer
Adelscott 2-0 MVP
Thorzain 3-0 MC
Have you heard of a factor called latency?
at Copenhagen games LAN MC 4-0ed Kas
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On June 02 2011 04:35 apm66 wrote:
"everyone will just say " well MC, Nestea, MVP, and MKP weren't there so its not like you beat the best""
I beg to differ! Did you even watch TSL3?
Thorzain 2-0 Fruitdealer
Adelscott 2-0 MVP
Thorzain 3-0 MC
Do not think MC got 3-0ed, please dont make false statements.
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Win:
SeleCT, Moon, MC, NaNiwa (if he's there)
Lose:
Idra, Major, Gretorp, Incontrol,
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I want everyone's favourite player to win and I want everyone's least favourite player to lose.
I would like to see Haypro come out and wreck everyone to build his confidence like Jinro did, that would make for another magical MLG moment! He doesn't have to win, just place decently, it could be a nudge that gets him on his BW form.
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I hope idra, murder and someone completely unknown win
i dont hope anyone loses but I do dislike seeing underserving people in the top 16
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I think the better player should win and the ones that don't play good to come in second and third. I also don't see the point in thinly vieled shit talking threads.
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To win:
LosirA ('cause he's amazing)
Tyler ('cause his moping needs to go away)
Sheth ('cause he's awesome)
Lose:
Gretorp (his long-winded, oft-incorrect commentary annoys me)
SixJax (don't like the mercenary feel of the team)
The other Koreans (or the foreign scene loses all credibility)
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to win:
bomber
What is there to say? bomber is an absolutely amazing terran. Won GSL code A over MVP, plays very well
MMA
amazing terran, I guess called "the legend killer" He has very solid play and I don't see many foreigners being able to compete with him.
Idra
Absolutely amazing player, 2nd best zerg in the world in my opinion (first being nestea) He's been playing so well latley, I really don't see many of the MLG players being able to beat him.
to lose:
destiny. He is a player with very much hype about him from his fans and teamamtes, but really has he shown any results? I'm very certain he won't even make it half way thru the open bracket.
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This thread will just produce flame wars as people protect there favourites and trash on people they don't like.
Ill just say who im rooting for  . - Haypro (I want to see some results as everyone in the pro scene speaks very highly of him). DeMuslim (Hes British :D). MorroW (I'm a fanboy). Dignitas team (I love SelecT, Sjow and Naniwa, also there a British organisation :D).
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On June 02 2011 04:35 apm66 wrote:Thorzain 3-0 MC
WTF?
How exactly were you watching TSL?
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On June 02 2011 04:43 Benjef wrote:
This thread will just produce flame wars as people protect there favourites and trash on people they don't like.
yea i agree!
why would you say who you want to faiL? thats just immature imo.
i hope demuslim wins.
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