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On June 06 2011 01:08 Jimbooo wrote: I accidentally posted my last post without finishing , sorry. Im not sure if freeloader was TRYING to be suspicious with his last post , but after thinking it through I think he is probably just new. That small amount of evidence got a discussion started , but I think people also voted slightly hastily. It looks very suspicious that so many people voted for freeloader right after he was accused. Exactly. It's still early in the first day. From a brief glance at names through the thread we still have a lot of people yet to post anything. It seems a little early to be jumping down people's throats for asking questions in a noobie mafia game. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:28 gtrsrs wrote: iGrok did a 28000 character analysis and determined that kurumi was scum, and less than a day later, before he even had time to convince anyone to vote for kurumi, iGrok now has kurumi on his "don't lynch" list. duly noted He said he wasn't sure yet. Why are you so gung-ho to lynch one of the only people to put forth any sort of in-depth analysis yet? You haven't exactly built a sound case against him. Care to dig a little deeper in to why you're so anti-iGrok bud? | ||
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Drazerk has voted twice following the current popular opinion without much explanation other than band-wagoning on the Freeloader vote. As for Jimbooo, TranceStorm brought up some very valid points against him. Definitely a suspicious character. Gonna need to hear from you presently Jimbooo or it isn't looking too good for you. | ||
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Amazingxkcd, Kurumi and myself. As for my vote, it's purely coincidence that I voted within several minutes of the other two. Yes, I haven't been very active in the thread, but this is the first mafia game that I've actually gotten a chance to participate in (Last game I joined, newbie mini mafia 1 was poorly timed with leaving town for the weekend). | ||
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I'll defend my vote of him by saying this, early on while the whole freeloader bandwagon was going on I thought his post was suspicious. It's hazy now, but I'm fairly certain I read in one of the guides that people who post without conviction are typically mafia. And yeah, I bandwagonned after saying that we shouldn't do that earlier in the day. We were getting closer to the end of the day and there wasn't really a strong case against anyone. As I said before it was coincidence that Kurumi and Amazingxkcd voted within a couple minutes of myself. | ||
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I just got my morning coffee and I'm gonna start investigating people around lafali day 1 as per GGQ's dying wish. Sorry for being almost entirely inactive day 1. I wanted to get a decent feel for how the game is played. | ||
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On June 05 2011 12:46 Jimbooo wrote: This going to be EXTREMELY fun! Oh, but the fun is just beginning my good man, have a seat over there. Early on Day 1 he votes for Freeloader65 20 minutes after claiming that we shouldn't be too hasty to vote for a simple question. On June 05 2011 13:38 Jimbooo wrote: @aprudds Wow, nice observation. I dont know if hes just someone with a question or what, but I dont want to make hasty decisions and accidentally lynch someone that we shouldnt lynch. 20 minutes seems a little hasty to vote after just telling everyone else that we should wait it out and make the proper lynch. He posts three more times without saying much. On June 05 2011 14:57 Jimbooo wrote: Thinking about this , I am sort of happy I can unvote. But that doesnt change freeloaders suspiciousness. With his last post , I do think he is alot more shady , but I dont want to point fingers. Like I said in one of my posts , I dont want to be hasty and lynch a townie , but there is 48 hours left. Something strange happens here. Jimbooo's punctuation gets a little wonky. It's possible that Jimbooo isn't a native English speaker, but two posts before he looked just fine. On to the substance, or lack thereof in his post. He's happy he can unvote after feeling a little pressure about the bandwagon jump. I bolded the last line for emphasis. This is a direct contradiction between his words and his actions. If you don't want to be hasty Jimbooo why did you vote so early? Once again he points out that we still have an abundance of time. State the obvious a little more please. Someone might have missed that the game has 48 hour day cycles. Here's Jimbooo's defense of his hasty decision On June 05 2011 15:13 Jimbooo wrote: I guess I was just quick to vote? idk, its possible to change votes so I wouldnt say its a mistake , but once freeloader was that suspicious I just felt it was a good time to vote. I would. I'd call it a scum slip. You got caught doing the exact thing you were advocating against. He justifies the quick vote by saying freeloader was "that suspicious". That just doesn't hold up. Asking a question regarding rules several hours after the game starts doesn't constitute suspicious. Why exactly was this a good time to vote? Cherubael (Another suspicious character) was the only person to vote in the game. So far Jimbooo has provided an incredibly shaky defense for himself. On June 05 2011 15:19 Jimbooo wrote: I also at first thought we should keep an eye on freeloader , I don't think he is definitely mafia , but we should keep an eye on him. I DID vote , but I don't think he is CERTAINLY mafia, he is just very suspicious. I feel like we should trust people a little more , because now people feel like they will get accused with every post and town can't function that way. More of the same, this post is riddled with indecision. Jimbooo is uncertain of Freeloader, but that didn't stop him from voting anyway. As I'm reading this section for the third time he states twice that we should keep an eye on freeloader. At this point I'm confident saying that Jimbooo is shaken up. The second half of his post is incredibly vague and quite frankly doesn't gel with the rest of what he's said. Town can't function by making accusations? Really? This is Jimbooo up to page 10 of the thread. I did further digging with him disappearing and being quite active in several fan club / stream threads after being accused. I'll let this sit for a minute while I type up the rest, and before I get there, I'll note that I agreed with his point about being hasty early in the thread. I'm going to go get some lunch and after that I'll be back with the rest of my findings. | ||
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Spoiler: Aprudds post calling out Jimbooo for hopping on both the bandwagon votes. Page 30. + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2011 09:59 aprudds wrote: @rookie Are you serious? At least defend yourself man. Your the start of the Jackel tunnel and this is your defense? Step it up man. @ jimbo Hello Jimbo it seems your eager to jump on bandwagons. A BIT TOO eager no? First you jump on the freeloader bandwagon after "patting me on the back", and when the heat turns up a bit you jump off. You disappear for a few hundred posts (200s-500s) with little to no defense and when you pop back with this being your only defense. + Show Spoiler + Sorry for not replying to accusations against me , I really didnt know what to say. My vote was way to early , which was the reason i retracted it. I don't have anything else to say at this point. Next when Jackel starts to put on the heat on rookie you jump on that one as well. With not a single post explaining why. Not even a simple "I agree", or a "that makes sense". Just a simple silent vote. Someone is trying to avoid attention. + Show Spoiler + I accidentally posted my last post without finishing , sorry. Im not sure if freeloader was TRYING to be suspicious with his last post , but after thinking it through I think he is probably just new. That small amount of evidence got a discussion started , but I think people also voted slightly hastily. It looks very suspicious that so many people voted for freeloader right after he was accused. Yes, it looks very suspicious that people voted hastily. I guess you would agree I have ample reason to FOS you then eh? TL;DR (since I know you don't seem to like reading) Neither me nor Jackel had a very good case (my case on freeloader was not even a case at all) and yet you are more than eager to jump on bandwagons. You have almost no defense for your earlier behavior You don't justify your lynches. Your past self would agree that your suspicious You sir get my vote. His last post on Teamliquid was a vote for rookie45 on June 7th. He didn't give any post explaining his reasoning for rookie. Well shit. I was looking forward to digging deeper in to this, but there's nothing left. Where are you Jimbooo? | ||
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On June 09 2011 04:24 Kurumi wrote: Since You're ok with lynching lurking people who vote without any explanation/shitty explanation are You agreeing with me on vigi shooting grush57? Let me look back over grush57. In the case of Jimbooo I went digging back through the thread and found several contradictions between his posting and his voting action. | ||
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@TranceSorm: I completely blanked that you called him out earlier. after re-reading his posts this morning I agree with your points. | ||
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I'm going to go back through the thread and re-read the cases against amazingxkcd and iGrok in the case my number one suspect doesn't show up. After re-reading the thread I'll lay out my thoughts much like I did on Jimbooo's posting. | ||
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iGrok analyses Kurumi, calling him out as scum (I stand corrected on my previous defense of iGrok's analysis.) Yet says he isn't a good lynch vote. Uh... right. That's a pretty big disconnect between the words and the actions. I also find it strange that iGrok puts himself on his no-lynch list early on. Isn't that sort of a given? preservation of self and play to win. Amazingxkcd also puts an analysis of himself under his Huge Posts O' Analysis. Is that supposed to be some resounding defense of yourself? | ||
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How much time is left for Day 2? | ||
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My vote is going towards amazingxkcd. His day 1 activity, especially the first post and then several after attacking others for making fluff first posts are my basis here. | ||
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