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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 04:23:55
March 18 2011 04:17 GMT
#1
The White House today proposed sweeping revisions to U.S. copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" of audio or
video a federal felony and allowing FBI agents to wiretap suspected infringers
.

In a 20-page white paper (PDF), the Obama administration called on the U.S. Congress to fix "deficiencies that could hinder enforcement" of intellectual property laws.

The report was prepared by Victoria Espinel, the first Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator who received Senate confirmation in December 2009, and represents a broad tightening of many forms of intellectual property law including ones that deal with counterfeit pharmaceuticals and overseas royalties for copyright holders. (See CNET's report last month previewing today's white paper.)

Some of the highlights:

• The White House is concerned that "illegal streaming of content" may not be covered by criminal law, saying "questions have arisen about whether streaming constitutes the distribution of copyrighted works." To resolve that ambiguity, it wants a new law to "clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances."

• Under federal law, wiretaps may only be conducted in investigations of serious crimes, a list that was expanded by the 2001 Patriot Act to include offenses such as material support of terrorism and use of weapons of mass destruction. The administration is proposing to add copyright and trademark infringement, arguing that move "would assist U.S. law enforcement agencies to effectively investigate those offenses."

• Under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it's generally illegal to distribute hardware or software--such as the DVD-decoding software Handbrake available from a server in France--that can "circumvent" copy protection technology. The administration is proposing that if Homeland Security seizes circumvention devices, it be permitted to "inform rightholders," "provide samples of such devices," and assist "them in bringing civil actions."

The term "fair use" does not appear anywhere in the report. But it does mention Web sites like The Pirate Bay, which is hosted in Sweden, when warning that "foreign-based and foreign-controlled Web sites and Web services raise particular concerns for U.S. enforcement efforts." (See previous coverage of a congressional hearing on overseas sites.)

The usual copyright hawks, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, applauded the paper, which grew out of a so-called joint strategic plan that Vice President Biden and Espinel announced in June 2010.

Rob Calia, a senior director at the Chamber's Global Intellectual Property Center, said we "strongly support the white paper's call for Congress to clarify that criminal copyright infringement through unauthorized streaming, is a felony. We know both the House and Senate are looking at this issue and encourage them to work closely with the administration and other stakeholders to combat this growing threat."

In October 2008, President Bush signed into law the so-called Pro IP ACT, which created Espinel's position and increased penalties for infringement, after expressing its opposition to an earlier version.

Unless legislative proposals--like one nearly a decade ago implanting strict copy controls in digital devices--go too far, digital copyright tends not to be a particularly partisan topic. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act, near-universally disliked by programmers and engineers for its anti-circumvention section, was approved unanimously in the U.S. Senate.

At the same time, Democratic politicians tend to be a bit more enthusiastic about the topic. Biden was a close Senate ally of copyright holders, and President Obama picked top copyright industry lawyers for Justice Department posts. Last year, Biden warned that "piracy is theft."

No less than 78 percent of political contributions from Hollywood went to Democrats in 2008, which is broadly consistent with the trend for the last two decades, according to OpenSecrets.org.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20043421-281.html

So technically would this make streamers playing music illegal? Will this affect people who stream video games? What about video games that contain copyrighted audio? So much for the support of an open internet from the Obama administration...
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 18 2011 04:18 GMT
#2
They are more concerned about restreams of world cup, HBO, ETC, but still theoretically music would be included.
Kenderson
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada280 Posts
March 18 2011 04:19 GMT
#3
balls

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WyghtWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Israel145 Posts
March 18 2011 08:00 GMT
#4
wait, so Day[9] might be considered a criminal?

SC2 is copyrighted, it's soundtrack is copyrighted.

And WTF?! who the hell gave them the keys to police the WWW?!
sites that are hosted and operated outside of US borders should be protected from those morons(tvshack sound familiar?)

no one's taking my torrents from me! NO ONE!

it's like going to war against the country that's operating the site(needs to be stretched a little bit, but yeah, i think you could make it sound like that)
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cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
March 18 2011 08:05 GMT
#5
This is like the war on drugs. It's not gonna do jack shit no matter what kind of laws they make or modify. You can't stop the internet baby!
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 08:06:28
March 18 2011 08:06 GMT
#6
Wonder if they will even care about streaming video games.
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
March 18 2011 08:09 GMT
#7
I hope this isn't the case for games and music, or TL.net, Justin.tv and Ustream are gonna get a WHOLE lot quieter...
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Flanlord
Profile Joined August 2010
265 Posts
March 18 2011 08:11 GMT
#8
On March 18 2011 17:06 R0YAL wrote:
Wonder if they will even care about streaming video games.


If someone stands to gain, or there is money to be had in cracking a few unfortunate heads, probably.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
March 18 2011 08:13 GMT
#9
Well this sucks, I was about to start streaming.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 08:16:51
March 18 2011 08:15 GMT
#10
On March 18 2011 17:06 R0YAL wrote:
Wonder if they will even care about streaming video games.


That probably depends how many game developers wants that no one streams their game. I'd say its a big mistake if a company decides so. Especially in Blizzards case.
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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
March 18 2011 08:17 GMT
#11
will this apply to Korean streamers like HuK and cella?
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YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
March 18 2011 08:17 GMT
#12
On March 18 2011 13:19 Kenderson wrote:
balls

User was warned for this post


It's unfortunate that this man was warned, as his post summarizes my sentiments precisely.

Also, I hope this legislation is more meant for music and not people streaming a video game. I see no reason for the FBI to crack down on professional Starcraft...

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BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
March 18 2011 08:30 GMT
#13
I'm all for musicians (and any other artist for that matter) getting paid for their work, I think copyright is a good thing and I don't personally illegally download music, as I like to support those bands (and labels) that I like.

Songs played on gamer-streams are probably more like advertising than infringing on copyrights though.
I'm sure a lot of artists would be happy to get their songs played to thousands of viewers/listeners - a prime audience of young men.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 08:35:46
March 18 2011 08:35 GMT
#14
You guys remember the FBI warnings at the beginning of all movies on VHS and DVD? This is basically the same thing. Unless you're a major streamer this won't affect you.
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
March 18 2011 08:42 GMT
#15
On March 18 2011 17:30 BenBuford wrote:
I'm all for musicians (and any other artist for that matter) getting paid for their work, I think copyright is a good thing and I don't personally illegally download music, as I like to support those bands (and labels) that I like.

Songs played on gamer-streams are probably more like advertising than infringing on copyrights though.
I'm sure a lot of artists would be happy to get their songs played to thousands of viewers/listeners - a prime audience of young men.


This. Free advertisement for games / music? Hell yes!

It's not like most of the streamers are making any money from the songs / game. There are some that get paid by the streaming site but yeah, I guess it's a grey area. Won't know till people start getting sued.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 18 2011 08:42 GMT
#16
Can the U.S. government stop licking the balls of Hollywood?

Like make laws for more use of solar energy by lessening their taxes.
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 18 2011 08:47 GMT
#17
I doubt they will crack down on SC2 streams. Music, movie and tv is another matter though.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 18 2011 08:47 GMT
#18
On March 18 2011 13:17 chaoser wrote:
So technically would this make streamers playing music illegal? Will this affect people who stream video games? What about video games that contain copyrighted audio? So much for the support of an open internet from the Obama administration...


Technically all those things are already copyright violations. Video game companies are never going to go after streamers because they suffer no damages, streaming is free advertising, and it'd be terrible PR if they sued someone for streaming a game. Maybe a company would get mad if you streamed an entire playthrough of a single player game with no replay value, but for multiplayer games like Starcraft, no way. As for music, well it took the music industry years to catch on to Internet radio and Youtube. Who's to say that they won't clamp down on people streaming copyrighted music next...

If you skim the 20 page paper linked in the article, it's almost entirely about counterfeit drugs, national defense, organized crime, and shit like that. The relevant part is a recommendation for Congress to "clarify" that streaming content is distribution and not a public performance. Both are already copyright violations, but only reproduction and distribution can be criminal acts, not publicly performing. As has already been said, the government is concerned with people streaming premium TV content, PPV stuff, etc. and not you streaming your Starcraft matches. Odds are that Congress won't do anything anyway so don't lose any sleep over it.
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SwiftSpear
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada355 Posts
March 18 2011 09:00 GMT
#19
I wish for once the US government would take the side of the populous and not the gigantic corporations.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
March 18 2011 09:01 GMT
#20
This is interesting, how are you going to police something like this O.o the internet is worldwide! I guess they would have authority over American streamers being accessed by other American internet users ... seems like a pointless move imo. If you really want to crack down on piracy it needs to be a worldwide move, which is never going to happen which makes me exceedingly happy internet nerds agree that they love free stuff and countries agree that its illegal and should be banned but cant agree how to stop it.

Got a bit side-tracked there but anyway, this probably won't affect anybody who streams SC2
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