[M] (3)Direlict Mnemosyne

Ferisii

Denmark199 Posts

March 15 2011 08:22 GMT

Insert generic map note here!
Version 0.3

Hello everyone again! Taking over the feedback I've recieved for my varius maps on this site, I've come up with this 3 player map, Direlict Mnemosny. And tbh, probably my best map yet to date (And fastest made so far! I was shocked, really, due to it being Xel'naga theme set... so many doodads.)

Map details:
Direlict Mnemosny is a 176x152 playable map. (Mind the space)
Xel'naga towers are there no of. Seem they took them with them those pesky Xel'naga ones!
There are 12 naturals (incl. main). First natural contains 7 blocks of crystal, the nearby got 7 and the furthest got 8. Zero gold expansions.

Update Log

~0.3
A few map details changed here and there. Fixed missplaced doodads. (bye bye floating wall plate}
Relocated backdoor rocks to the nearby ramp that leads down to possible 3rd natural
]~0.2
Increased main base build area abit
Changed natural layout. Build area has been increased. Ramp has been relocated closer to the ramp accessing middle area and finally a Xel'naga Caverns lookalike back entrance with destrutable rocks has been added.
Increased the amount of mineral fields to 7 up from 6 on the nearby natural expansion.
Various new environment details has been made.
Removed Xel'naga towers.

Screenshots:
+ Show Spoiler +

Note: The editor for some reason didn't render the pretty flashy circles on the ground, but they are still There.
HQ Overviews:
+ Show Spoiler +

1500x1500 http://imgur.com/94NhK
3000x3000 http://imgur.com/4rhyy

Top-right Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Natural:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nearest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Furthest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Middle area:
+ Show Spoiler +

The two other parts of the map:
+ Show Spoiler +

Analyzer:
+ Show Spoiler +

Note: Huge diagonal rock at south was used so analyzer would know the path is blocked. Does for some reason not pick up vertical rocks.
Summary:
+ Show Spoiler +

Main to Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nat to Nat:
+ Show Spoiler +

Released on: EU

Old versions
+ Show Spoiler +

version 0.2
+ Show Spoiler +

Map details:

Direlict Mnemosny is a 176x152 playable map. (Mind the space)
Xel'naga towers are there no of. Seem they took them with them those pesky Xel'naga ones!
There are 12 naturals (incl. main). First natural contains 7 blocks of crystal, the nearby got 7 and the furthest got 8. Zero gold expansions.

Screenshots:
+ Show Spoiler +

HQ Overviews:
+ Show Spoiler +

1500x1500 http://imgur.com/RNfhY
3000x3000

Top-right Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Natural:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nearest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Furthest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Middle area:
+ Show Spoiler +

The two other parts of the map:
+ Show Spoiler +

Analyzer:
+ Show Spoiler +

Note: Huge diagonal rock at south was used so analyzer would know the path is blocked. Does for some reason not pick up vertical rocks.
Summary:
+ Show Spoiler +

Main to Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nat to Nat:
+ Show Spoiler +

version 0.1
+ Show Spoiler +

Map details:

Direlict Mnemosny is a 160x144 playable map. (Mind the space)
Destructable objects are blocking paths to nearby naturals. Destroying either of these gives an easier access to said areas but also unlock new paths for opponents to reach you with.
There are 12 naturals (incl. main). First natural contains 7 blocks of crystal, the nearby got 6 and the furthest got 8. Zero gold expansions.

Screenshots:
+ Show Spoiler +

HQ Overviews:
+ Show Spoiler +

1500x1500 http://i.imgur.com/t1q3B.jpg
3000x3000 http://i.imgur.com/t2JFa.jpg

Top-right Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Natural:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nearest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Furthest possible 3rd:
+ Show Spoiler +

Middle area:
+ Show Spoiler +

Album link for the remainig of the map.

Analyzer:
+ Show Spoiler +

Note: Huge diagonal rock at south was used so analyzer would know the path is blocked. Does for some reason not pick up vertical rocks.
Summary:
+ Show Spoiler +

Main to Main:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nat to Nat:
+ Show Spoiler +

[url=http://imgur.com/zL4vf] [image loading]

[url=http://imgur.com/9nJQx] [image loading]

[/url]
[url=http://imgur.com/jMCAE] [image loading]

[/url]

adso

718 Posts

March 15 2011 11:24 GMT

BasementCat

Canada155 Posts

March 15 2011 12:02 GMT

I like it a lot, one thing is that each base is really hard to get into if it is well defended.

Each base only has one ramp and the destructible rocks only attach one expo to another. The natural and 3rd can be defended from the main.

My suggestion, make a backdoor entrance to the main and add something to the third base to make it risky to take (like a high ground ledge for dropping, a really wide ramp, or something more creative)

Ferisii

Denmark199 Posts

March 15 2011 17:19 GMT

@adso
Tricky to get somewhat right, totally. What you mean with abit on the dark side exactly?

@BasementCat
Been trying abit out in the editor for regarding what you've said and I've come up with this

As you can see, i've blantely ripped off Xel'naga caverns' back door style to it but removed the ramp to the nat below and thus also increased the size of the first natural. Probably gonna add some few more resources to it, making it atractive to get.
I also increased the ramp size to the 3rd nat, making it easier to move up.
Also removed the xel'naga towers in the process. (one for middle dosn't really work due to not having fair sightlines for all 3 sides.)

any thoughts?

FlopTurnReaver

Switzerland1980 Posts

March 15 2011 17:58 GMT

Looks like a pretty good map. Things I don't like a lot is the XNT placement and the main size, 18CC's is not a lot. Good work.

Ferisii

Denmark199 Posts

March 15 2011 18:08 GMT

I agree on the Xel'naga tower issue. Probably gonna end up removing all of them (or Along with the changes there might be planned as I discribed above)

Regarding main size, it's around the same as on Xel'naga Caverns (20.0 CC), thus I also want the player to expand out of his main. Tho, probably gonna see if i can increase it abit (to around the same as Xel'naga caverns)

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

March 15 2011 18:47 GMT

Basically what FTR said.
Also, the name is atrocious :/. No one will ever pronounce it properly

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

March 15 2011 19:43 GMT

I like the back hallway, but it makes it much easier for the clockwise spawner to pressure their opponent. Not sure how to fix this. Maybe move the ramp further back along the arc (like behind the minerals of the low base) and put some rocks on it?

What if you put another ramp facing the low ground base? In the above picture, it would be just to the left of the siege tanks, going horizontally.

Visuals are quite spiffy. And I like the name. ;D

Johanaz

Denmark363 Posts

March 16 2011 14:37 GMT

On March 16 2011 03:47 iGrok wrote:
Basically what FTR said.
Also, the name is atrocious :/. No one will ever pronounce it properly

de-re-lict ne-mos-nee

Ferisii

Denmark199 Posts

March 18 2011 13:21 GMT

#10

Updated the map to 0.2, update log can be found on main post.
Please give me your thoughts on these new changes I've made to the map.

Been busy the last few days so couldn't update the map as fast as I would like to.

ihasaKAROT

Netherlands4730 Posts

March 18 2011 13:37 GMT

#11

I feel the mains are really small, pretty much everything is in siegerange apart from the main building. Could just be my eyes deceiving me tho

Also, I think the rocks guarding the 'Tasteless secret hallway' -clone shouldnt be there. Why not have that area open from the start? Makes for some nice hiding attacks comming from all bases.

Ragoo

Germany2773 Posts

March 18 2011 13:45 GMT

#12

Brilliant map, but I agree with this:

On March 15 2011 21:02 BasementCat wrote:
I like it a lot, one thing is that each base is really hard to get into if it is well defended.

Right now it seems turtling on 4 base is really easy and that sucks for ZvT. Maybe make the lowground base more open?

Ferisii

Denmark199 Posts

April 01 2011 08:29 GMT

#13

Wuuuush. Ninja update to 0.3. update log located at main post.
Late update I know, but have been busy with various stuff.

adso

718 Posts

April 01 2011 09:23 GMT

#14

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

April 02 2011 20:09 GMT

#15

I liked the rocks on the narrow sneaky route in version 0.2 better. However, I agree that the ramp to lefthand 3rd needs rocks also so that either 3rd requires you to break rocks for the quick route. If you kept the rocks on the sneaky route, that would be too many Drocks, so overall I guess I have to be satisfied with version 0.3, but it nags me. If I spawn anticlockwise I will constantly be worried that they could send a harass or big attack through the sneaky route, while I have to travel much farther and double back in order to do this, making it much less of a spontaneous threat. I'm not sure there's any way to completely fix this, but I am reluctantly okay with the "imbalance" of it. Adds spice.

Another thing is that the mains seem too small for no reason still. You have available space in the anticlockwise direction, why not add another 5-10 CCs there? Nevertheless, the natural has a fair amount of open space for building, so it's not crippling, but I really think you should adjust it.

That said, I really am liking this, and the aesthetic style is quite appealing. The only thing there I could see improve is making the center a little less "endless rock", but it's probably okay in game.

I await the final submission to motm expectantly.

Please or register to reply.

[M] (3)Direlict Mnemosyne

Completed

Ongoing

Upcoming