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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 13 2011 04:36 GMT
#47
Banelings on SCVs
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 13 2011 05:03 GMT
#50
Ver can only lose one more game before lylo.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 15 2011 03:13 GMT
#68
/in for the main game, not the item game
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 17 2011 03:19 GMT
#108
##vote: Pandain
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FOR MAYOR
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 23 2011 00:40 GMT
#155
LSB gimme a sweet power pls :D
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#308
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spam
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#409
Hello, fellow Insanians.
I'm officially announcing my candidacy for mayor of this city.

I will not be making promises or threats.
I will not campaign for myself, nor will I attack other candidates.

I do not believe a mayoral campaign has any meaning. Rhetoric has nothing to do with the best choice for mayor.
Most of you have seen me play mafia in several games by now; make your choice based on what you've seen so far.

I'm intelligent and analytically talented.
I'm well-spoken and skilled in robustly expressing thoughts.
I'm town-sided in this game.
I'm GGQ and I'm available to be your mayor.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 05:10 GMT
#491
On March 24 2011 14:08 kevconsim wrote:
Hello everyone!!!


hi
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 22:11 GMT
#682
On March 25 2011 06:29 bumatlarge wrote:
GGQ - Kenpachi syndrome


You take that back!

There's nothing to post right now. I offered to be mayor, but I don't think I'm the best choice, and apparently no one else does either, so there's nothing more to say about that. I'm staying caught up with the thread, but I'm waiting for roles to come out before making my mind up about anything.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 23:02 GMT
#715
On March 25 2011 07:59 annul wrote:
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On March 25 2011 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 25 2011 07:27 annul wrote:
On March 25 2011 07:26 chaoser wrote:
1. my policy is "any item game player is better than current slate of candidates." given that, of course i am going to try to get the mayorship. my policy for determining lynch? kill who i think is black.


@annul

Why only say kill who you think is black and not who you think is red or black


because black players can only die in the daytime, so in the item game, i want to take a swing at someone when i control the kill, so the town doesnt get misled and start voting to lynch people not in item game


So why not aim for reds either? It shouldn't make a difference to kill red/black if all you want to do is get people looking at the item game players. You would only worry about hitting blacks more than reds if you were expecting KP to kill the red, which could only come from a black, or vigi-shot. If you killed the black, they have no reason to really kill players in the item game, outside of if they wanted to help mafia/town. So this is either bad logic, or a mafia-slip.




are you retarded?

the ONLY WAY we win the item game is to use a DAY kill (mayor kill or normal lynch) on the black player in item game (assuming no nonstandard abilities). therefore, of course i am going to try to find the black player in item game if i am elected mayor.


Wow, racism. Your political career is over.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 26 2011 01:55 GMT
#1183
Voting bumatlarge for mayor.

Suggesting darmousseh as primary lynch target for now.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 27 2011 02:35 GMT
#1752
I fucking hate this thread, fuck you all. I just finished the 81st page of trash. I hope this gets better by page 89.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 27 2011 04:11 GMT
#1779
On March 26 2011 10:55 GGQ wrote:
Voting bumatlarge for mayor.

Suggesting darmousseh as primary lynch target for now.


Oh, hi! I know I've been pretty inactive thus far, so I'm quoting this post where I'm the first person wanting to lynch darmousseh in order to boost my credibility in this game. Quality, not quantity!

I'm suggesting Lanaia and maybe Amber[Light], after going through all of their posts, as additional blacks. Less sure about reds, but Meapak and OriginalName are on my list.

Let's get some suggestions of protects/investigates out there. Specific people, not just generalities.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:17 GMT
#2262
Hey Tack

I also have a sub point here about Lemons vest. The items list we have is:
1) A Role Checker
2) An Alignment Checker
3) A bomb (potato)
4) A gun
5) A medic style item
6) A medic style item

This is insane mafia. Even though 2 of the other items are similar they are not identical. So why do we have a vest and bandages that seem to do the same things? Is that likely? Of course my item can protect others where as Lemons possibly does not need to be used. Either way I'm saying this is a tentative point to analyze.


The vest is not a medic style item, it is a veteran style item. It makes perfect sense and fits the pattern of the items.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:20 GMT
#2266
Also, I was gonna point out what Chaoser or Coagulation pointed out above.

If you are town, stealing Jackal's item was retarded. The town thing to do would be to role-check someone. If you lived or died, you would be giving the town some great information. The much simpler explanation is that you are red.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:25 GMT
#2271
Also, it's pretty obvious by now that jackal and coagulation never had a plan to confirm each other. They decided early that they trusted each other, then that they trusted lemonwalrus and they made their plans from there. They lied to town about confirming each other so that we'd trust them and listen to them. I know LaL is a pretty good policy, but if their lies win town the item game... well, you can't argue with results.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:34 GMT
#2281
Also, re: bus driver.

Just so no one is confused about what this role does:

The bus driver picks two players. All abilities that target either of those two players during the night phase now target the other player instead. This means that, judging from the way the Day Post was written, the bus driver picked Tackster and annul. Since it seems like annul was shot twice, that means that two shots were used on Tackster, one of which came from coagulation.

I played the bus driver as town in Harry Potter Mafia (to pretty good effect, I might add :D) but the driver role is more commonly a scum role, and (given that it spreads chaos and confusion) it is much more suited to scum.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:43 GMT
#2291
On March 28 2011 15:27 Tackster wrote:
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On March 28 2011 15:20 GGQ wrote:
Also, I was gonna point out what Chaoser or Coagulation pointed out above.

If you are town, stealing Jackal's item was retarded. The town thing to do would be to role-check someone. If you lived or died, you would be giving the town some great information. The much simpler explanation is that you are red.


By your standards:

Situation 1:
I DT check and get shot. Town now has more reason to lynch Jackal (GOOD)

Situation 2:
I DT check and some1 else gets shot. I 'claim' a check on Jackal that can't be confirmed and we end up in this situation. (BAD)

Situation 3:
I steal and get the gun. We're now in the same situation as yesterday except town gets to lynch instead of leaving the kill to someone else (VERY GOOD)

Situation 4:
I steal and don't get gun. I am shot. Same situation as 1. (GOOD)

Situation 5:
I steal and don't get gun. I am not shot. We are now in this position.(BAD)


So a DT check either has 50% chance for the positive result you're looking for or 50% this situation comes up.

A steal on the other hand has a 66% chance for a positive result or 33% this situation comes up.


Your logic is poor because you assume that each situation has an equal chance of playing out under each scenario.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 06:44 GMT
#2292
On March 28 2011 15:40 Tackster wrote:
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On March 28 2011 15:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
My definition is the correct one on this forum. If A shot B but B was bussed with C then A would of actually have shot C. What you are referring to I only ever saw once in ExMiMa. I can't remember what DrH called it though.


On epic mafia it's the other way. Happy to learn!!


Errr, I'm pretty sure that how I described it is how it works on EM, too.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 28 2011 07:36 GMT
#2327
On March 28 2011 15:45 Tackster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 15:43 GGQ wrote:
On March 28 2011 15:27 Tackster wrote:
On March 28 2011 15:20 GGQ wrote:
Also, I was gonna point out what Chaoser or Coagulation pointed out above.

If you are town, stealing Jackal's item was retarded. The town thing to do would be to role-check someone. If you lived or died, you would be giving the town some great information. The much simpler explanation is that you are red.


By your standards:

Situation 1:
I DT check and get shot. Town now has more reason to lynch Jackal (GOOD)

Situation 2:
I DT check and some1 else gets shot. I 'claim' a check on Jackal that can't be confirmed and we end up in this situation. (BAD)

Situation 3:
I steal and get the gun. We're now in the same situation as yesterday except town gets to lynch instead of leaving the kill to someone else (VERY GOOD)

Situation 4:
I steal and don't get gun. I am shot. Same situation as 1. (GOOD)

Situation 5:
I steal and don't get gun. I am not shot. We are now in this position.(BAD)


So a DT check either has 50% chance for the positive result you're looking for or 50% this situation comes up.

A steal on the other hand has a 66% chance for a positive result or 33% this situation comes up.


Your logic is poor because you assume that each situation has an equal chance of playing out under each scenario.


LOL actually I stated by your standards. I was being pessimistic. By my standards the chances are much higher...

You realise you're implying the situation YOU suggested would be worse for town right?

Lastly my stats would be poor not my logic and unlike the other players in this thread that can't confirm their abilities I can confirm when I state I am good at stats. Theoretical Physics is not an easy degree to get!


Perhaps not, but it has little to do with stats. For the rest of this post, I feel like you are mixed up in both your semantics and logic, but I'm just going to leave all that alone and try to be more clear.

What I meant is that you are just looking at some percentages without taking the context of the game into account. Let's assume you are a green. You know that all the other townies in the IG want you dead. You know that most of the town has you pegged as scum and wants you dead. Given that your death would NOT result in town losing the item game (there's not enough KP floating around for that), there's no reason for you to try to stay alive. As long as you are around, covered in scum and drawing votes your way, you'll just distract town from finding the real scum tomorrow. If someone is going to shoot you, then you thank them and look forward to seeing jackal hang the next day.

Furthermore, on the chance that you might survive (hey, you never know; it's insane mafia! look at what you are claiming now... you are a green and someone out there somewhere decided to save your ass) you would use your DT check item because you know how valuable a DT check is for town. Even if it's not from a trusted source (you)... you know you are going to die soon (most likely to a lynch the next day) so then town will know your check was true. In that situation, any town with killing power would very much like to know whether or not jackal is scum going into night 2. Instead you have simply shrugged off a DT check from you, saying that it wouldnt be trusted (guilty conscience?).

Finally, on to why your logic was just bad. Take a look back at all those "situations" you listed. Compare your 'bad' situation (5) to your 'very good' one (3). The only difference between these two situations is that you have the gun in the 'very good' one. Seriously. Not only is that bad logic, it's also a possible scumslip in wanting the gun for yourself.

TL;DR stealing instead of inspecting was very anti-town
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