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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 06:34:33
February 05 2011 06:25 GMT
#1
I know for OSL, the prize money is 40000000 won for winner and half that for runner up, but does anyone know the distribution for ro4, ro8, ro16 and ro32? Are they paid anything? And for MSL?

edit: according to the replies here: http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=know&wr_id=7172&page=7

for the 2009 batoo OSL,

ro4: 7000000 won
ro8: 3000000 won
ro16: 2000000 won
ro36: 250000 won for 1st in group, 150000 won for 2nd, 100000 for 3rd.

(to get dollar figures, you do the math)

The poster I think calculated this from the total prize money from a news article.

Obviously it's ALOT less than the GSL, especially considering there's twice as many GSL's per year then MSL+OSL combined, and right now IMO there's more talent in sc1.
quote? what quote?
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
February 05 2011 06:50 GMT
#2
GSL from what I've heard is in deficit though while MBC and OSL break even or get some change but not much so if the increase the prize pool to GSL they would be losing money each time they run it.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 05 2011 06:52 GMT
#3
GSL depends on Blizzard for money, OSL and MSL are financially independent.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
February 05 2011 06:54 GMT
#4
On February 05 2011 15:52 jalstar wrote:
GSL depends on Blizzard for money, OSL and MSL are financially independent.


Not really all prize money from for the GSL is from the sponsor.
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stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
February 05 2011 06:57 GMT
#5
On February 05 2011 15:52 jalstar wrote:
GSL depends on Blizzard for money, OSL and MSL are financially independent.


Blizzard is spending a lot of money to increase the popularity and hopefully one day sponsors will take up the prize pool.
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
February 05 2011 06:57 GMT
#6
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
February 05 2011 06:58 GMT
#7
im pretty sure GSL is going all out on prize money to try to get a big base and hope that eventually they will be making money from it. kinda like how sony sells PS3's at a lost but make up for it with software sells... GSL is hoping to make more money in the future from sponsors + charging sucker foreigners 50$ a month.

On February 05 2011 15:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 15:52 jalstar wrote:
GSL depends on Blizzard for money, OSL and MSL are financially independent.


Not really all prize money from for the GSL is from the sponsor.


didn't the 1st GSL not even have a sponsor?
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 07:00:24
February 05 2011 06:59 GMT
#8
On February 05 2011 15:57 gen.Sun wrote:
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.


im 99% sure that players get to keep their individual league winnings lol

edit - i dont think anyone makes over 200k a year (even flash/bisu). i think nada made the most ever on a contract after he won the golden mouse, which was like 250k a year. It was pretty big news if i remember correctly.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 05 2011 07:04 GMT
#9
They announced the prize pools before they had sponsors, so I think at least some of it comes from Blizzard.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 05 2011 07:07 GMT
#10
On February 05 2011 15:57 gen.Sun wrote:
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.


Players keep their winning money but sometimes will give the team/coach a bit out of his own consent.
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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
February 05 2011 07:08 GMT
#11
I think the best players make around 300k (flash etc), especially counting all endorsements and individual leagues (I dont think it's at a million). But that still doesnt compare to sc2 right now, imagine if a bonjwa emerged, he could potentially win 10 out of the 12 tourneys as they dont overlap with each other, which would amount to like a million.
quote? what quote?
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
February 05 2011 07:08 GMT
#12
On February 05 2011 15:57 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 15:52 jalstar wrote:
GSL depends on Blizzard for money, OSL and MSL are financially independent.


Blizzard is spending a lot of money to increase the popularity and hopefully one day sponsors will take up the prize pool.


Sadly, 0.0000000000000000000001% of the revenue Blizzard makes from WoW can easily fund GSL for an entire year.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 07:19:58
February 05 2011 07:11 GMT
#13
On February 05 2011 15:57 gen.Sun wrote:
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.

Whether they keep their winnings or not depends on the individual contracts they have with the teams. Different teams have different rules and even within the teams, the terms vary for each player.

But yes you're right that we have no idea how much they're paid cos of the bonuses. They get various bonuses for each proleague win, playing Ace matches, making the playoffs, advancing further into starleagues etc.


On February 05 2011 15:59 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 15:57 gen.Sun wrote:
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.


im 99% sure that players get to keep their individual league winnings lol

edit - i dont think anyone makes over 200k a year (even flash/bisu). i think nada made the most ever on a contract after he won the golden mouse, which was like 250k a year. It was pretty big news if i remember correctly.

It was reported that Flash got a pay-rise after KT won the proleague, to something in excess of 300 000kWon a year, basic salary alone. Jaedong makes 200 000kWon++. I think Bisu as well.
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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
February 05 2011 07:15 GMT
#14
you mean 200k dollars. 200k won is like two weeks groceries.
quote? what quote?
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
February 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#15
On February 05 2011 16:08 theramstoss wrote:
I think the best players make around 300k (flash etc), especially counting all endorsements and individual leagues (I dont think it's at a million). But that still doesnt compare to sc2 right now, imagine if a bonjwa emerged, he could potentially win 10 out of the 12 tourneys as they dont overlap with each other, which would amount to like a million.


Flash is rumoured to make 300k salary with performance bonuses. Individual leagues and endorsements probably get him much more. Also, GSL lowered the prize money of their "regular" tournaments to 50m won and they don't even have 12 GSLs a year anymore.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
February 05 2011 07:19 GMT
#16
On February 05 2011 16:15 theramstoss wrote:
you mean 200k dollars. 200k won is like two weeks groceries.

No I mean won, but I forgot the "000".
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
February 05 2011 07:19 GMT
#17
unlike sc2, bw players get appearance fees (players actually went on strike in 2003 to get these).
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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
February 05 2011 07:21 GMT
#18
On February 05 2011 16:18 aru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 16:08 theramstoss wrote:
I think the best players make around 300k (flash etc), especially counting all endorsements and individual leagues (I dont think it's at a million). But that still doesnt compare to sc2 right now, imagine if a bonjwa emerged, he could potentially win 10 out of the 12 tourneys as they dont overlap with each other, which would amount to like a million.


Flash is rumoured to make 300k salary with performance bonuses. Individual leagues and endorsements probably get him much more. Also, GSL lowered the prize money of their "regular" tournaments to 50m won and they don't even have 12 GSLs a year anymore.


ughh.. bummer. I was excited for the financial prospects of sc2 pros.
quote? what quote?
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
February 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#19
On February 05 2011 16:19 GTR wrote:
unlike sc2, bw players get appearance fees (players actually went on strike in 2003 to get these).


Is that separate from salaries they get from their teams? Do they get those from I guess the broadcasting companies?
quote? what quote?
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 07:36:11
February 05 2011 07:33 GMT
#20
On February 05 2011 15:59 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 15:57 gen.Sun wrote:
The Econ r different.

Bw winneres don't enev keep their winnings, prize money's, they all go to the team. But they get paid in so many other ways that they End up much better comp than sc2 players. For example they could be paid per pro league win. Bit that varies from contract to contract so in the end we have no idea how much they're paid. But flash prob makes a million a year.


im 99% sure that players get to keep their individual league winnings lol

edit - i dont think anyone makes over 200k a year (even flash/bisu). i think nada made the most ever on a contract after he won the golden mouse, which was like 250k a year. It was pretty big news if i remember correctly.


Actually, Milkis posted the salaries recently:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142342

Flash for example, makes 250 million won a year, which is above 200k a year. That's ignoring his bonuses from PL and his SL winnings, considering he won 4 golds which are 35k and 2 silvers(35k) he made about 400k USD last year ( without PL winnings, WCG winnings, extra bonuses, special events)

If you do it for JD, he got approx 285k, that's pretty impressive too.

Edit: Bisu also has a pretty decent salary for PL alone, but he isnt winning many tourneys. The top players make a decent amount of money, however it goes down logarithmically from there, there is no reason for JD/Flash to switch, but there are plenty of reasons for the average A-teamer to.
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