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On January 22 2011 16:46 flamewheel wrote: Clues are going to soooooooo screw this game up in a good way. Oh no, there isn't another bum this game is there? ![]() | ||
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On January 23 2011 11:49 LunarDestiny wrote: Qatol? His profile mention using gun is stupid and using duct tape is smart. Show nested quote + The police arrived the next morning. Amidst the caution tape and penlights, were the two scientists. LSB and Node were bound with duct tape, throats slit. The strangest expression on their faces. A mad, wide grin. His profile pic is very black... bingo, the duct tape/dexter quotes and the pic make it pretty clear. Not going to sit back here and nitpick, so... KAV is the only mayor candidate? It seems he's been making this case before the game started, so it's not a mafia induced plan so far. He looks like he'd spend a lot of time in the thread judgin by his hard work on that post. All pluses! But how smart is he? What games has he played before and how did he act? I won't be running for mayor, but I will if this dude isn't relatively clever, I'd make a point to run him out. It's better to have a good player as mayor regardless of alignment then someone who you know might be prone to mistakes. RESEARCHIN TIME! | ||
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/confirm Well. I've quickly scanned through Mercmafia and BCE, and I like what I see. Very active townie who takes care in what he says. He'd probably assume a DarthThienMayor persona if he is scum. Not very flexible, but hard to get rid of. Just need to keep an eye on him. All in all, a very capable mayor. He has my vote. BTW divinek should be our first lynch+ Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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On January 23 2011 16:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: /Confirm Ok Kav you've definetly got my vote atm :D it's late so I'll look at the clue tomorrow but I've heard what others have said and I like the Qatol reasoning. If Kav gets the clue that'll be a good point in his favor (let's face it, right now he only has a fancy speech and I'd like a mayor with good scumhunting skills). It looks like Bum did some good background research so that does make me feel good about Kav. Speaking of Bum, why do you want to lynch divinek? Even if it was a joke I'd like to hear why you said it. Well I suppose I could lay off him this game. Since I did completely WRECK HIS FACE in PYP3. (Trying to hide behind people I am already shooting ![]() It's OMGUS in it's purest form, untainted in the realm of mafia. One does not simply FoS for this kind of OMGUS. You ignore it and hope that wrath of that magnitude doesn't put you on it's list of things it wants to disintegrate. I'd take it as joke, but as a helpful hint, keep it in mind if me and him start talking. Relationships between players is very important. For instance, if bill murray and ace start having a civilized conversation, something is very wrong (BM being civilized at all should keep you on your toes :X) | ||
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On January 23 2011 16:25 kitaman27 wrote: I would like to announce my intention to run for Mayor on behalf of the Kavdragon sucks Party! Do not allow yourselves to be deceived by his well thought out posts and eagerness to lead the town to victory. I promise a campaign that delivers straight facts, rather than the propaganda spewing machine he has created. FACT: Kavdragon was mafia in Pokemafia. kitaman27 has never been mafia. FACT: Kavdragon has never correctly landed a vig hit. kitaman27 has never missed a vig hit* *while not being role blocked FACT: First is the worst. Second is the best. Third is the one with the treasure chest. Now allow me to uncover some shocking revelations: Using pro-town technology, I was able to uncover an additional hidden arrow. You heard it here first folks, kavdragon is a mod-confirmed scum. Show nested quote + On January 23 2011 12:27 Kavdragon wrote: (PS, i might be an invincible Vigilante, that can protect anyone, and check two people for their role per night. It'd suck to pass up that awesome role in the mayor seat.) Первым человеком, решить мою головоломка в этой кампании будет получить мое восхищение. --отец КавДракона For those too lazy to translate here is what that means: Show nested quote + lolz this town is full of noobs. Unless a brave, handsome individual comes forth to oppose me, this game is already over. Brb, going to kill some puppies. -Kavdragon I'm pretty sure I've seen similar symbols in a Call of Duty game in COMMUNIST RUSSIA! That's right, Kavdragon is a COMMUNIST. And what color do communists love? Red. What color is scum? Red. What color is the communist scum Kavdragon? Red + Show Spoiler [Text Endorsements] + On August 9 1974 11:63 VER wrote: Kav's the One. Kav for mayor. On January 20 1961 11:63 Node wrote: I Like Kav. Vote for Kav. On January 22 2011 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm Meapak_Ziphh and I approve this message. On January 22 2011 11:26 SiNiquity wrote: I'm SiNiquity and I approve this message. On January 21 2011 08:42 LSB wrote: KAV 4 MAYOR! I'll make you a mspaint poster!!!! Hey look, he was even kind enough to provide the entire scum team! As mayor, these would be my first 5 targets. In addition, as I predict to be the number one scum target as mayor, I nominate Kavdragon as my bodyguard to soak up all the bullets aimed in my direction. Has anyone noticed he never indicated which side would be victorious? How convenient. Let me fix that for you. I don't think your vigilante skills are something you should be flaunting but I missed kav's play in pokemafia. If you could enlighten me, all I remember is a lot of townies pushing townies with mafia not having to do much. And that gabe dude. He was hilarious. By the way Node... Is that voting thread around ![]() | ||
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On January 24 2011 05:38 Beneather wrote: Alright we have 2 people running for mayor. 1. KavDragon 2. Kitaman KavDragon has brought up strong points of having scum bodyguards which most agree to. Aswell other stated if the mayor dies and without any death of the bodyguards then the bodyguards are scum and we can just lynch them. Kitaman hasn't brought up any points in his run for mayor. It's all basically saying that we should vote for him because he is better than KavDragon etc. Also saying that KavDragon is red because he's a communist russian etc. These are the only 2 running so far and if I had to vote now it'd be KavDragon since he had brought up a lot of good points and could be a huge asset to the town. There are a few more ideas that Mr.Wiggles had to that I agree with but I think KavDragon can incorporate those in to his plans. RoL is as well I believe. | ||
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Gonna put my vote on kav, and if he can spot a few more clues on different folks and finalize his statement on picking BG's, my vote is staying there. | ||
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I feel we should RNG our mayor :/ as right now we have a 50% shot at picking a scum mayor, or we can take a <25% chance at one. I'd like to hear thoughts. On a BG plan + Show Spoiler + We want to use the census as long as possible because it's basically 1/2 of a coroner everyday. I've been thinking this through and I believe the best option is to splice 4 and 5. Option 4: Vetclaim: Two Veterans claim, they are chosen as bodyguards. Upside: Vets are tough to kill, make excellent bodyguards. Essentially make mayor invulnerable for at least 3-4 cycles. Downside: Reds can STILL claim to mess it up (and they will.) Vets more useful hidden amongst the town, to soak hits. No guarantee this setup has two vets. Verdict: If it wasn't for the fact that reds can claim, I'd be in support of this idea. I personally think vets would be more useful ensuring we have census for basically the entire game than sitting in the silent majority, hoping they can soak up a hit. However, there's no way a smart mafia team wouldn't have a goon claim vet, with no way to prove/disprove it, and that's a 66% chance we run into the 1 town-1 scum setup. So no. Option 5: Mayoral preference: Mayor picks his bodyguards, they accept. Upside: Kav/RoL are both good players, can probably select two greens. Downside: Kav/RoL aren't infallible, scum mayor can basically screw town over with this by intentionally selecting blues (bluesniping) and making it look accidental when they die, gives all the power to the mayor, something we want to avoid. Verdict: I don't like it, despite Kav kind of softly pushing for it. I'd vote against this plan. We have only 1 veteran claim. We should tell him to refresh the thread to avoid multiple claims. He will be first choice. Yes, mafia can claim it, but I'm not entirely sure mafia wants to which I will get to in a minute. The next BG will be chosen by Mayor. He will make the person is believes is most likely a vanilla town. If he is scum, then we can't be sure what he will do, but a mafia BG leaves a nice SK target on his back. So this would ultimately lead to how badly the other factions want the mayor to die. With 30 people in the game, I believe there are several set-ups. 5 mafia, 2-3SKs. 6-7 mafia, 1-2 SKs 7-8 mafia, No SKs (8 seems highly unlikely) With a rough 25% of players being non-town, BG chosen by mayor has a good chance of being town. With more mafia then veterans, statistically mafia will be more likely to be 2nd BG. I believe SK has no real purpose in trying to kill mayor within first 3 days. As a lone-wolf, he benefits from information brought to town, and he can blend well until medics and vets start getting counted. He can't really fake why he survived a hit if a mafia about to get lynched accuses him of being an SK. Ultimately, SK wants mayor to state how many mafia, SKs, one other blue role to keep his clam safe. SK should be preoccupied with DT and mafia sniping. For this reason, I do not like censusing DTs til later on, so SKs won't feel safe enough to hit mayor. Mafia then will take a stab at non-townie mayor very early on. Medics should take a high-priority in protecting BGs, and if both die and mayor is alive, I don't think you should take it off him. | ||
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On January 26 2011 08:19 BrownBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: A scum mayor is the worst scenario by far, regardless of anything else. This means we will never get information on town numbers. False-claims will be rampant, and it will turn into a clue-crapshoot. I want to avoid this at all cost. For this reason, I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum. It's just way to strong an opportunity to pass up. If we are luky, dr.H was the mafia claim, but seeing as how he had relatively no votes, I don't think this is a viable outcome to put your hopes in. I feel we should RNG our mayor :/ as right now we have a 50% shot at picking a scum mayor, or we can take a <25% chance at one. I'd like to hear thoughts. On a BG plan + Show Spoiler + We want to use the census as long as possible because it's basically 1/2 of a coroner everyday. I've been thinking this through and I believe the best option is to splice 4 and 5. Option 4: Vetclaim: Two Veterans claim, they are chosen as bodyguards. Upside: Vets are tough to kill, make excellent bodyguards. Essentially make mayor invulnerable for at least 3-4 cycles. Downside: Reds can STILL claim to mess it up (and they will.) Vets more useful hidden amongst the town, to soak hits. No guarantee this setup has two vets. Verdict: If it wasn't for the fact that reds can claim, I'd be in support of this idea. I personally think vets would be more useful ensuring we have census for basically the entire game than sitting in the silent majority, hoping they can soak up a hit. However, there's no way a smart mafia team wouldn't have a goon claim vet, with no way to prove/disprove it, and that's a 66% chance we run into the 1 town-1 scum setup. So no. Option 5: Mayoral preference: Mayor picks his bodyguards, they accept. Upside: Kav/RoL are both good players, can probably select two greens. Downside: Kav/RoL aren't infallible, scum mayor can basically screw town over with this by intentionally selecting blues (bluesniping) and making it look accidental when they die, gives all the power to the mayor, something we want to avoid. Verdict: I don't like it, despite Kav kind of softly pushing for it. I'd vote against this plan. We have only 1 veteran claim. We should tell him to refresh the thread to avoid multiple claims. He will be first choice. Yes, mafia can claim it, but I'm not entirely sure mafia wants to which I will get to in a minute. The next BG will be chosen by Mayor. He will make the person is believes is most likely a vanilla town. If he is scum, then we can't be sure what he will do, but a mafia BG leaves a nice SK target on his back. So this would ultimately lead to how badly the other factions want the mayor to die. With 30 people in the game, I believe there are several set-ups. 5 mafia, 2-3SKs. 6-7 mafia, 1-2 SKs 7-8 mafia, No SKs (8 seems highly unlikely) With a rough 25% of players being non-town, BG chosen by mayor has a good chance of being town. With more mafia then veterans, statistically mafia will be more likely to be 2nd BG. I believe SK has no real purpose in trying to kill mayor within first 3 days. As a lone-wolf, he benefits from information brought to town, and he can blend well until medics and vets start getting counted. He can't really fake why he survived a hit if a mafia about to get lynched accuses him of being an SK. Ultimately, SK wants mayor to state how many mafia, SKs, one other blue role to keep his clam safe. SK should be preoccupied with DT and mafia sniping. For this reason, I do not like censusing DTs til later on, so SKs won't feel safe enough to hit mayor. Mafia then will take a stab at non-townie mayor very early on. Medics should take a high-priority in protecting BGs, and if both die and mayor is alive, I don't think you should take it off him. This could work, I'm not clear on why you don't think mafia will try to falseclaim vet? You never really got to that point, unless I'm missing something. Oh I forgot thanks BB <3 lol I believe mafia numbers don't exceed 6, I think it is likely that mafia would lose a KP if they false-claimed. Maybe or maybe not, but it wouldn't help them. I think it would be much more effective for them to stack 2 hits on the vet, who is less likely to be protected, and keep their member. Eventually that mafia BG will die, if mayor isn't scum, and if mafia false-claim and don't kill mayor (which would be awesome) we could eventually census vets. At least thats how I see it. | ||
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On January 26 2011 08:21 Jackal58 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: A scum mayor is the worst scenario by far, regardless of anything else. This means we will never get information on town numbers. False-claims will be rampant, and it will turn into a clue-crapshoot. I want to avoid this at all cost. For this reason, I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum. It's just way to strong an opportunity to pass up. If we are luky, dr.H was the mafia claim, but seeing as how he had relatively no votes, I don't think this is a viable outcome to put your hopes in. I feel we should RNG our mayor :/ as right now we have a 50% shot at picking a scum mayor, or we can take a <25% chance at one. I'd like to hear thoughts. On a BG plan + Show Spoiler + We want to use the census as long as possible because it's basically 1/2 of a coroner everyday. I've been thinking this through and I believe the best option is to splice 4 and 5. Option 4: Vetclaim: Two Veterans claim, they are chosen as bodyguards. Upside: Vets are tough to kill, make excellent bodyguards. Essentially make mayor invulnerable for at least 3-4 cycles. Downside: Reds can STILL claim to mess it up (and they will.) Vets more useful hidden amongst the town, to soak hits. No guarantee this setup has two vets. Verdict: If it wasn't for the fact that reds can claim, I'd be in support of this idea. I personally think vets would be more useful ensuring we have census for basically the entire game than sitting in the silent majority, hoping they can soak up a hit. However, there's no way a smart mafia team wouldn't have a goon claim vet, with no way to prove/disprove it, and that's a 66% chance we run into the 1 town-1 scum setup. So no. Option 5: Mayoral preference: Mayor picks his bodyguards, they accept. Upside: Kav/RoL are both good players, can probably select two greens. Downside: Kav/RoL aren't infallible, scum mayor can basically screw town over with this by intentionally selecting blues (bluesniping) and making it look accidental when they die, gives all the power to the mayor, something we want to avoid. Verdict: I don't like it, despite Kav kind of softly pushing for it. I'd vote against this plan. We have only 1 veteran claim. We should tell him to refresh the thread to avoid multiple claims. He will be first choice. Yes, mafia can claim it, but I'm not entirely sure mafia wants to which I will get to in a minute. The next BG will be chosen by Mayor. He will make the person is believes is most likely a vanilla town. If he is scum, then we can't be sure what he will do, but a mafia BG leaves a nice SK target on his back. So this would ultimately lead to how badly the other factions want the mayor to die. With 30 people in the game, I believe there are several set-ups. 5 mafia, 2-3SKs. 6-7 mafia, 1-2 SKs 7-8 mafia, No SKs (8 seems highly unlikely) With a rough 25% of players being non-town, BG chosen by mayor has a good chance of being town. With more mafia then veterans, statistically mafia will be more likely to be 2nd BG. I believe SK has no real purpose in trying to kill mayor within first 3 days. As a lone-wolf, he benefits from information brought to town, and he can blend well until medics and vets start getting counted. He can't really fake why he survived a hit if a mafia about to get lynched accuses him of being an SK. Ultimately, SK wants mayor to state how many mafia, SKs, one other blue role to keep his clam safe. SK should be preoccupied with DT and mafia sniping. For this reason, I do not like censusing DTs til later on, so SKs won't feel safe enough to hit mayor. Mafia then will take a stab at non-townie mayor very early on. Medics should take a high-priority in protecting BGs, and if both die and mayor is alive, I don't think you should take it off him. Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 15:03 Node wrote: Mayor You are the elected leader of the town. Elections will take place on day 1. When elected, you will publicly select two bodyguards to protect you for the rest of the game. While bodyguards are alive, you cannot be targeted by night hits or the roleblocker. Role checks on you will return “Mayor”. Don't think that's an option. What isn't? RNG mayor? There are ways, as in everyone posts a number between 1-2, and we add them up. The probability of scum landing a mayor this way is miniscule, and attempting to tamper with it will most likely get screwed. Here I'll start. 2 I cannot change it, and now d3 will be our choice until the next person posts a number. If we set a deadline, mafia can't wait til the last minute. | ||
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On January 26 2011 08:46 ilovejonn wrote: The only thing that would have fucked us over from the start are people that are trying to make themselves mayor RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE. If you guys were thinking about being mayor, why didn't you guys start your campaign earlier instead of letting it go to other people's hands? Okay we voted for a guy that sounds pretty pro-town for mayor, wait it suddenly sounds bad at the last second possible. Really? I never said either of the candidates was pretty pro-town, I'm saying I underestimated mayor, and I expected more candidates. Since I don't see why mafia wouldn't give it a shot, that leaves one of the two candidates as mafia. I came here as early as I could, and everyone is putting focus on the BGs when we have a lot of time for that. I would like to extend the voting time for mayor if that is possible. Then we can have more time to see if this is really what we want to do. If people really want to pick kav or RoL, then I guess we will take our chances. At least consider it. And no one is making themselves mayor... If someone like amber who likes neither candidate doesn't really have much of a choice, considering the other mayor wants to lynch him, he has to pick kav. If I can't extend it then it's not like I could upset e votes anyway. If I'm distracting the conversation from your precious BG discussion, then I'll take my chances lol. | ||
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On January 26 2011 09:44 TheAldo wrote: Bum you have really started to sound awfully scummy in like the last 5 posts. You honestly don't think one of the candidates is mafia? You are just gonna sit there and vote and not say anything about what is happening? I mean if I talked about your last 5 posts, I'd have to use your /confirm post as well. What does that say. I suppose since Kav is going to be mayor, I'll put a lot more time into clues right now and then analysis later. Kav is lynching Original I assume, which I am not against with the good amount of clues found. RoL wants to kill amber, but I don't believe he is set on that. On January 26 2011 10:05 Impervious wrote: If we're worried about one of them being a mafia, forcing the job of bodyguard on the other is fucking dumb..... Regardless of whether we make the right choice or not..... Yeah... the opposing candidate is the last person I would pick. | ||
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On January 26 2011 10:47 Kavdragon wrote: Right, so long story short, my computer crashed and I lost the response I put together over the past hour. Sucks, but I'm not going to hang on it. Here's the short version from my memory: RNG is stupid. Bum is Scum. BrownBear is being dumb for following Bum. I'm considering lynching Bum, if the town agrees. Otherwise I will follow through with the ON lynch, so as not to upset people. lol...? Do you realize how strong mayor is? Do you honestly think scum wouldn't try to have someone run? If I was in your shoes as town, RoL would be pretty fishing looking. And you aren't, which says something about you. Now I really hope you don't get mayor if this is actually how you think things through. Killing the only person who says you might be red is not the way to go. If you kill me, I can guarantee you are red. If you are town, please start thinking about where I am coming from with this. Roughly 24 hours ago, I thought there were 4 candidates. It would be pointless to bring it up. Now there have been two for nearly all of the vote process, I am a little worried. I thought maybe I could get an extension on the time to give this a little more thought and buy that last guy some time. The RNG plan isn't too great with only a few hours left and it was mostly just a thought in response to the situation, but maybe with 12 more hours we could get another candidate, and give people more of a choice. | ||
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On January 26 2011 11:12 SiNiquity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2011 11:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hi Barundar! So mayor should be getting mafia numbers tonight, awesome. And if he's smart, every night. I think if we could spare a night on SKs so we can can determine the night kills better, it would be useful, but I what your saying. | ||
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