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Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:09:58
September 15 2010 13:51 GMT
#1
Mod Edit: GSL Spoilers in this thread

(This might belong in custom maps, but I think the issue here is a more general one and maps are just the solution. Mods can move the thread if they feel otherwise.)

After seeing today's GSL games I thought the spying of match histories might be a huge issue for current and future leagues. Since Blizzard doesn't want to give the option to hide our score screen and builds in any kind of game, I experimented a bit with the map editor. Sure enough it just took a few simple changes to break the score screen so that your strategies remain hidden. I did it for all the 1v1 ladder maps except Delta Quadrant, which I didn't manage to find the original map file for (added DQ now). The maps are currently published on EU and US and you can find them by going to Multiplayer -> Create Game and typing "BO hider" in the search box. If someone wants to make hidden versions of other maps, here are the quick instructions:

+ Show Spoiler +
1) Open the map file in editor.
2) Map -> Map Info and set the new name/author/description, copy to all locales.
3) Map -> Game Variants, add a variant with name "Hidden build" or something, get rid of the other variants.
4) Data Editor (F7), Set Data Type to Score Results.
5) Click Build Order and make a change to the data on the right side, like checking the Hidden checkbox.
6) Back on the left side on the screen, right click Build Order and select Remove Object.
7) Repeat 5 and 6 for Economy Breakdown, Units and Graphs.
8) Click Standard on the left side, then on the right side under Headers delete everything except Score Summary.
9) Save your map. File -> Publish, login to bnet if needed, set the parameters correctly (like Release: Private or Public, Locked/Unlocked).
10) Click Ok, accept the terms and let the map upload.


What happens when someone wants to view that match in your match history (also what you see after game):
[image loading]

Here's a link to the maps themselves, you DON'T need to download this if you play on EU or US
http://www.mediafire.com/?az8ntpotbjhnpiv

If you have questions or find something that I screwed up (or a better way to do this) post them here.
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
September 15 2010 13:52 GMT
#2
wow you are FAST... so so fast at coming up with these
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
September 15 2010 13:54 GMT
#3
Very interesting.. thanks for sharing!

I know a few players that as soon as they see who they are playing in a tournament will go to that players match history and start lurking and see what they are practicing against certain matchups. As unfair as this is.. its available to everyone.. I am not necessarily convinced this is something blizz should take out of the game.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 13:55:18
September 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#4
Awesome might save pros shelling out for a practice account
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Coufu
Profile Joined July 2010
Guam137 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 13:56:47
September 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#5
Very interesting, but wouldn't someone who wanted to know your build order be able to find out anyway by watching the replay?

Edit: NM I just realized this is for people who are spying on your games. Hopefully this helps any future readers with any confusion
Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
September 15 2010 13:58 GMT
#6
That's brilliant! Thanks a lot, I hated the whole idea of this spying thing!
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
September 15 2010 14:00 GMT
#7
Excellent find. I think people will be using this quite a bit.
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JaspluR
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia174 Posts
September 15 2010 14:00 GMT
#8
sick, this is going to be used heaps lol..
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
September 15 2010 14:01 GMT
#9
On September 15 2010 22:55 Plexa wrote:
Awesome might save pros shelling out for a practice account


Indeed. Especially as famous players might get outed pretty quickly and have to spend even more moeny on new accounts.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 15 2010 14:07 GMT
#10
Cool
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Lejving
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden82 Posts
September 15 2010 14:15 GMT
#11
Teddyman is so awesome, gj
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 15 2010 14:19 GMT
#12
Awesome idea, hadn't even realized that was possible. Lightning fast also

Guess it will save the pro's for having to ask their mother, brother, ex-babysitter and dogwalker for their Korean ID's to register on the KR ladder...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 15 2010 14:47 GMT
#13
Good job. I hope this will get more popular among progamers.
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
September 15 2010 15:15 GMT
#14
Just noticed that this also ruins replays - you don't get a replay saved anywhere after playing a game on one of these maps. If someone figures out a way to do this and keep replays working, it would be great. In addition, I don't know if this prevents your computer from getting the data for the game or if it just doesn't show it. In the latter case it would theoretically be possible to use a packet sniffer to see the builds anyway.

Does anyone have the map file name (in the b.net cache) or download site for Delta Quadrant?
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 15 2010 15:16 GMT
#15
only works if you play it with practice partners. Problem is alot of players like IdrA play ladder to practice so obviously this isn't useful to him
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
September 15 2010 15:16 GMT
#16
Is it possible for somebody to post the already changed maps?
That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here
Team Liquidalea iacta est
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
September 15 2010 15:19 GMT
#17
He already posted the source maps. I reckon someone would just have to download and then publish them on your realm via the map editor.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 15 2010 15:20 GMT
#18
This is totally yet another thing that you should have sent to TLO and told us about after the GSL was over
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:43:55
September 15 2010 15:21 GMT
#19
On September 16 2010 00:16 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Is it possible for somebody to post the already changed maps?
That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here


TLO u feeling better?? hope so

on topic: I think this is really great as that whole spying thing seems really cheap and annoying,
+ Show Spoiler +
and im pretty sure thats wat lost IdrA game 2


User was warned for this post

Edit: spoilered the GSL spoiler, my bad, apologize, won't happen again
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Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
September 15 2010 15:45 GMT
#20
Now that is pretty awesome. It's great for those who are practicing in clans/houses.
Great job.
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