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On September 09 2010 10:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already! (j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's) Hehe... speaking of which here are some of my evil diabolical plans if I am ever host. 1. Make everyone Village idiot. 2.Make everyone town. 3. Make everyone traitor. 4.Have 5 dts and everyone else millers. Although I would love to include some of the epicness found in the ##Execute games and Bang bang or w/e. | ||
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Sinquity, you are The Entire Mafia team. Due to some hole in the space time continium, multiple yous from different universes have killed the real you, and these evil clones are now mafia! You play as each one, and must assume 8 different personas. I suggest you start of by saying "Sinquity ? says...". Good luck. | ||
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On September 17 2010 09:00 LSB wrote: Pandain! I'm the Pardoner! If you teach me how to hack people's inbox I'll pardon you! Step 1: Go to TL Step 2: Put in "Sinquity" under username Step 3: Put in "I'm having mixed feelings about my own gender yet I can't bring myself to come out in the open so I express my inner frustration through this password I type every time" under password. Partly inspired by http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83099 + Show Spoiler + Dw Sinquity, I <3 you this was just a general joke, not a joke about you. | ||
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On September 19 2010 11:12 SouthRawrea wrote: Black Bear. FACT: Bears eat beets. Bear beat battlestar galactica | ||
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Medic: Protect people who you think are going to get hit(duh.You would be pretty dumb if you didn't.) This can include active pro town-seeming people, people you think are blue, people you think are going to be hit, or just decide your own path and be a rebel. DT: Protect who you have a suspicion of, including but not limited to 1.People acting out of character 2.Lurking people Veteran or Bulletproof: Try to soak up hits, but don't be too obvious. Under NO even remotely normal circumstances should any of these claim, as then the mafia will just stray away from shooting them. The only time they should claim is if they got hit Then we got the two town KP roles, both very interesting in this game. Let's go over them. Mad Hatter This role is very dangerous. In the hands of a good player, it can win the game, in the hands of a bad(or just bad luck) it can lose the game. For example, in Bill Murray's game Citizen,zeks, and sinquity managed to stall mafia by revealing they had a mad hatter, and had bombs on mafia. However, just as it seemed we were about to win Xelin the suicide bomber came in and killed 5 people, and zeks had a bomb on infun meaning another one died. MH has to be very careful with your bombs, but always place one(as we can get more info/chance) and the fact you can always move it. Vigilante The most interesting role for me. Now it says he CAN use it starting night two, but should we have him? I say starting night two we make a vote/tally of who to kill as an "additional lynch." And if we're really not sure, we don't even have to use him. In fact, he might just ignore us or not even exist. However, I'm hoping the town consensus will convince him unless he has a REALLY good read on someone. But more importantly, he will help us solve the Village Idiot Conundrum. That is, how do we know if a sucipious/scum looking person will not have been the VI the whole time! If we're stuck on that problem , we can use the vigilante to safely remove him. More devilishly, we can not lynch him and say we're going to lynch him next night, so if he's not mafia they will have to make a choice whether to risk having the VI lynched. Then we can even waste a kp, in addition to the possible fact he may have lived because he actually IS mafia. But that's just getting into theory now, let's go back to what we can do now. Basically, we're at the part where Amber}Light says we are, where we can do one of three things. 1. Lynch an inactive 2.Randomly pick someone (PS KingJames you go to a random number generator on a website or w/e) 3.Lynch a suspicious person In two options(#1 and 3), the village idiot plays a large role in our decision. How do we know a sucipsious/inactive person isn't simply playing that role so then they will get lynched? The thing is, we don't. We'll have to use our best logic. I am against #2 on the basis of pure statistics. Assuming we have all blue roles, there is a greater chance of lynching a blue than a mafia. I like lynching inactives for a number of reasons 1.Usually are never blues(almost always townies) 2.Forces people to get talking 3.Provides us with more info(via the result of #2) Now let me say this: I might not lynch an inactive person. But if I don't push it, I will push you getting vigi'd. I want at least 2 good posts from everyone by the end of the day. As of right now I would hope to see your opinion on what to do today at the very least. | ||
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The Magical Bamboo: A panda's narrative in eastern China. The first thing Panda noticed was that people were changing the fabric of time and altering events which are very important for The Wise Panda Sage in order to analyze. The Wise Panda Sage detailed to his panda disciples in one very concise statement: "PANDAPANDAPANDAPANDA NO EDITING PANDAPANDAPANDAPANDA" Brown"Panda"Bear followed these teachings and told all of his fellow Starcraft 2 players that editing was not allowed. Said the BrownBear: On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote: 7. Editing posts. Editing posts is not allowed for any reason. The mods can see your edits, and if you are caught, you will look suspicious. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be owned.Please do not edit; this is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything. This Panda had learned in PandaHistory Class. But now, as he sat in the majesty that is The Ultimate Council, he saw another Panda, CynanMachae, being accused of working with the dreadful PandaPoachers. But Panda was hesitant, so he went to The Wise Panda Sage, who looked through time to see CynanMachae's previous history, and found them to be consistant with his current play. The Wise Panda Sage gave to Panda his analysis. 1.Cynan Machae's previous play is characterized as 3-4 sentence long posts every now and then, with a long post happening once or twice a game. While Panda noted this does not mean he's innocent, and indeed Panda was watching him closely, it does mean we should take this into context. Then Panda stopped speaking in Panda Tongue because its hard to write good analysis of people and/or subjects with analogies to concepts. So Panda beheaded the writer and lived happily ever after. End Story Alright, so a 1.While originally I was in support of DT claiming if he found red, I now believe we should not. With 5 mafia, DT's will be a very useful addition to regular scum hunting. In addition, if he does not claim but merely post up an analysis of that person and convince everyone he's mafia, then mafia don't even know that he is definitely DT. If said DT does get a mafia lynched, medics can/perhaps should protect him just in case. If you know someone's mafia while you haven't managed to convince people without saying "I'm DT and I checked him", then you should, as it will still mean we will be only one mafia away from lowering mafia (regular) kp to 1. So that's my input there. Who to Lynch Today: Alright, so not everyone has posted, meaning some are definitely going to get modkilled. That is not good. Here's the list of inactives in my eyes + Show Spoiler + 1. JeeJee 2. bumatlarge 3. Bill Murray-excuse, but is it unexecused????!!! Dundundun! 10.SINiquity 11.XeliN 12.kane]deth[ 15.infinitestory 16.cSc. Still needs to post content. 20.drag_- seems confused =D. Its alright, at first I thought mafia was a UMS BW custom map. XD(I mean, I just kept hearing people say “Infested Terran and DT) 7 people have not posted(the bolded ones.) I don't count Cynan as inactive and Nobody should vote for him because his actions thus far are in accordance with his previous play. That's not to say I'm not watching him(I am) but he's not that suspicious to me. While I believe at least 3 of those inactives will eventually post, I am hesitant to lynch someone who will be modkilled. However, I can find no sufficient evidence as of now to suggest one of the active is mafia. So as of now we have a few possible people, so I will RNG between the inactives, and it is: Xelin. | ||
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But Infun has only made this post, and it really adds no content of his own, while he "seems" to be contributing with roughly 2 decent paragraphs. Here's the post: On October 05 2010 04:39 Infundibulum wrote: You are correct, Element 91. But Amber is also right that there are ways for the detective to push lynches on reds he checks, without role-claiming. If you are a detective I suggest you get creative; only roleclaim if you feel it is necessary. If you are a detective, you should probably read this page (if you haven't already) just to get an idea of the ways in which other people (namely mafias and medics) will be trying to find you in the thread: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_the_Cop I think that's a pretty good comprehensive guide, but if there's any problems in it hopefully a more experienced player can point them out. | ||
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On October 06 2010 05:40 meeple wrote: Whoa whoa... weird defense of cynan... the votes against him were just to bump him back into posting... which he did, so those should eventually fade away to other, more suitable targets. However, he's definitely not in enough danger for another townie to worry about him getting the chop. This makes a lot more sense if you're an anxious red protecting your buddy... o.O Forgive me then, I was under the (I now see) false impression that while the first vote was just to get him talking that the second post was either a quick bandwagon(doubt it thought) or more likely a townie who's just confused. I was worried that he might get bandwagoned just because we really don't have that many good choices. Rereading, its clear to me they were for that purpose. However, I should point out that I did not say Cynan was innocent, rather that we don't have enough evidence to lynch him. | ||
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On October 06 2010 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: To be fair, we don't have enough "evidence" to lynch anybody really. That's the thing. Really the only person who still wouldn't have posted yet is either 1.Inactive Mafia 2.Inactive Townie. 3.Person who's going to post soon I honestly expect at least 2, if not 3 modkills, and don't want to waste my vote on a modkill. So I've looked over the thread, and decided to pick the most suscipcious out of everyone who's posted. Infun is a decent if not good player, I would expect more out of him. But your right, we really don't have any evidence(which is probably the main reason day 1 lynches are almost always off). But this is the most likely in my opinion. Even though this might make me look more "suspicious"(and might get me lynched if he is mafia), we should not lynch Cynan. this is why I defended him. I don't want him to get bandwagoned. At least he's posted a bit, and while it may suggest info of my alignment based on his result, its definitely not certain. | ||
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My main reason is that I don't think we should lynch Cynan, and Infun is the best person we have. I think we should make a stand right here, and everyone should start to vote for someone, since the way it stands now it is too easy for mafia to manipulate the votes and it will be 100% NOT a scum lynched. | ||
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On October 06 2010 07:49 ghrur wrote: Speaking of lynching, I strongly suggest against group voting, or in other words Don't agree to bandwagon onto a random vote Don't agree to use individual RNGs and votes If we bandwagon onto a random vote, how can we know if the person voting is or isn't mafia? If we use a RNG, how can we be sure Mafia isn't rigging the votes and using the RNG as an out? Also, once again, I'm against voting an inactive so early on because A. They could get modkilled. Do we want to waste a lynch? B. Does it put pressure on them if they can't see the votes due to a busy schedule? C. Inactives could be very helpful later on. D. Mafia hardly ever hides in inactives. Personally, I'll probably read through the voting thread later and see who votes what and let that influence my choice because I'm still new. xD Learning how a veteran votes could be helpful! While these are different reasons for why I no longer am lynching an inactive, it is the same conclusion however. I think we SHOULD make a stand on who to lynch. We hardly have any time left (what, 3 hours?) Right now mafia can manipulate the vote so easily. I'm lynching Infunidibulum because he's posted without really posting, he gave a link to a site which, while perhaps worthwhile to look at, isn't really superb. And sure, we don't really get that much info, but who else do we get info from? I mean, theres the supposed "Cynan-Pandain" connection, but of course I know it won't really amount to anything. | ||
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On October 06 2010 08:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: There are better candidates for the "posting without posting" thing, two of which I mentioned earlier. Infund has contributed by posting some information which might help some of our blues conduct themselves better and avoid being hit by the mafia. Yeah it doesn't take a whole lot of effort but it's something. Crysis is new and has even more content than Infund. Nuke the bunny actually has been contributing, and has posted 8 times. Infun, however, is an expierenced player. He's by far the best bet in this situation(albeit wouldn't be if like 7 people weren't going to be modkilled) | ||
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On October 06 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: crisis_ hasn't contributed anything. I didn't catch Nukes first post where he does contribute a worthwhile opinion but Crisis_ hasn't done anything but agree or disagree with other people without offering anything himself. cSc hasn't offered anything and is just asking people to think for him. however this is not something I think mafia would do, I wouldn't vote to lynch him. Unless you can find a post where crisis_ contributed something useful I'm voting for him. What I find even more interesting is this post He insists he has been participating in active discussion and has been helping the DT but look at his post: he didn't contribute anything he just quotes another post and agrees He's new. What he considers "contributing" may be less than what you do. Point is, he gave his opinions, and at least actually helped. Also, stop twisitng his words. He had been contributing in discussion on that subject(those posts were around the same page), while Infun has not at all besides that post in the begining. In addition, Crysis is at least putting himself out there with opinions, while Infun can't be linked to having a strong opinion on anything. All he did was link a site, and if its bad info, he can just say "Oh, sorry." And we still can't tell what his views are on anything. Don't forget, just linking a site which *may* help someone isn't unknown to mafia, mafia pretend to "help" all the time. But what I find most interesting is why you are so caught up in this. You even claim yourself, "We don't have evidence on anyone really" and were inactive up until infun started getting accused. But I'll just leave that as food for thought, as a valuable townie would be contributing none the less. Still, I've got my eyes on you O.O. On October 06 2010 09:19 Bill Murray wrote: I did pick up on that, but Pandain could just as easily be a Detective trying to defend someone, or a townie with a loud mouth. DT's can't investigate till night 2 On October 06 2010 09:22 Misder wrote: Actually, I’m just going to vote ~Opz~ right now instead of XeliN, just because of this tiny suspicion. I don’t know if I truly believe in that he is mafia, but I think he has a better chance at being mafia than XeliN. Why? At least Opz is being active, and he always posts scum like. He's like cynan, suscipcious, but playing his normal style so that must be remembered. Obviously some people are gonig to be modkilled. We should go after the people who will not, but have barely contributed(or go under the "guise" of contributing). | ||
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On October 06 2010 09:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why do you keep saying infund contributed nothing? That guide would be very helpful for new DT's and he contributed some helpful advice which will keep our blues alive while crisis contributed 0 original information. Infund did throw out a strong opinion which was that blues shouldn't roleclaim and that they should play outside of conventional play style while crisis just agreed/disagreed with other people i understand he is new but to say he doesn't fit the profile of a non-contributing player masquerading as an active townie while infund does is just stupid. I don't think he's even likely mafia but you seem pretty bent on infund being scum while other people fit your reasoning better I'm not saying he's contributed nothing, I'm saying he really hasn't contributed anything to this game. Plainly, Infun is a better and much more obvious choice than Crysis, who has at least been trying to contribute. And plainly I think he has been. Decent 3 paragraphs, but how does it help? Those who post without content are spammers, those who write essays without content are scum. Hyperbole, obviously, and I don't know for sure that infun is 100% scum. But I do know he's a better lynch in my eyes. Plainly, Infun has not contributed at all. He linked to a website, but anyone can really do that. Again, mafia will appear to help people all the time. And you don't always have to lie, or even want to lie as scum. (See: Ace's mafia guide). You're saying crysis is a better lynch than Infun. How? Crysis has at least attempted to contribute, and is new, so his posts will obviously be shorter than normal. He is adapting to this game, to accuse him and declare him mafia because he hasn't contributed "meaningfully" is the wrong conclusion. Instead, realize he is contributing, and push him to contribute more. Crysis makes 3 posts, talking about what he feels. Infun makes one in the very beginning, linking to a "helpful site." Then he disappears. Tell me which is the better choice. | ||
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On October 06 2010 09:34 Bill Murray wrote: 4) He was curious as to how I knew Pandain was the DT when he knows I am a good player Also, wtf? I never told you if I am or am not DT. and if I was, it would be wise not to reveal it. But I'm willing to soak up hits, let the mafia hit me  | ||
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