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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
http://sc2.replayers.com/replays/view/2504 http://sc2.replayers.com/replays/view/2479 http://sc2.replayers.com/replays/view/2403 http://sc2.replayers.com/replays/view/2521 Counter early aggression with one base play. Fistdantilus's one base roach play works very nicely against reapers too. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145740 Enjoy. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
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neocron
United Kingdom505 Posts
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:03 neocron wrote: Only watched the first replay. Mass Reapers?? Wont work against skilled players. fucking dumbass. read up before talking User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:03 neocron wrote: Only watched the first replay. Mass Reapers?? Wont work against skilled players. ok...number one please tell me your joking number 2 if you have been keeping up with starcraft 2 at all you would realize that this is the new strat in high level play by terran know what your talking about before you post please | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:03 neocron wrote: Only watched the first replay. Mass Reapers?? Wont work against skilled players. haha this is quite possibly the best first post i've seen. | ||
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ltortoise
633 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:03 neocron wrote: Only watched the first replay. Mass Reapers?? Wont work against skilled players. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Trolling, perhaps? | ||
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neocron
United Kingdom505 Posts
But in the first replay the T has max 6 Reapers. That's no problem! We are talking about 10-16 Reapers. They can instantly kill everything, even roaches! | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:11 neocron wrote: I know that mass reapers are clearly too strong -.- But in the first replay the T has max 6 Reapers. That's no problem! We are talking about 10-16 Reapers. They can instantly kill everything, even roaches! He was getting to that point but didn't because of the mutas. | ||
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Arcticc
United States203 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:11 neocron wrote: I know that mass reapers are clearly too strong -.- But in the first replay the T has max 6 Reapers. That's no problem! We are talking about 10-16 Reapers. They can instantly kill everything, even roaches! Hmm Germany... is this Take? Anyways, as I've mentioned I'm on board with this strat (the queen part my be detrimental). I will post a replay when I run into the reaper strat, which I'm sure wont be too hard. | ||
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Anesis
Germany4 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:03 neocron wrote: Only watched the first replay. Mass Reapers?? Wont work against skilled players. You probably have not seen the Intel Extreme Masters, where almost each Terran Player went mass Reapers against Zerg. Even after defeating this early aggression the Terran Player was in a significant position, both economical and food wise. In some matches you could see the struggle the Zerg had against this strategy. | ||
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:16 fdsdfg wrote: Can't watch the replays as I'm at work, but thanks for not providing a build order or at least a vague description of your strategy, it really helps encourage discussion to obscure as much information as possible. Its a 17 roach warren 3 roaches out 1 spine crawler and pretty much a fast tech to Spire. Though i think testing whether to skip queen could be done | ||
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memcpy
United States459 Posts
asgard asgard harassed well enough to keep you at 23 workers vs his 31. All he failed to do was assume you were building a spire when he saw the lair. Sephel Sephel was pretty bad. He waited way too long to start harassing. I'm guessing his multitasking was too bad to do so. spOh spOh was pretty aweful as well. His build order was terribad. At one point he made so many supply depots that he was at 21/43. ocedic ocedic is a friend of mine coincidently and I think he was the best of the 4 in terms of harassment. However, he is a random player and I know he hasn't done this strategy long enough to keep up his scv production (only had about 20 workers at the end). Again, should have assumed mutas when he saw lair. Summary None of these guys really did a good execution of the build and anyone smart enough to realize lair = spire will put up some turrets and end up with a worker advantage while being able to expand with marauders and turrets. | ||
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ScvReady
United States61 Posts
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:20 memcpy wrote: Watched all the replays. asgard asgard harassed well enough to keep you at 23 workers vs his 31. All he failed to do was assume you were building a spire when he saw the lair. Sephel Sephel was pretty bad. He waited way too long to start harassing. I'm guessing his multitasking was too bad to do so. spOh spOh was pretty aweful as well. His build order was terribad. At one point he made so many supply depots that he was at 21/43. ocedic ocedic is a friend of mine coincidently and I think he was the best of the 4 in terms of harassment. However, he is a random player and I know he hasn't done this strategy long enough to keep up his scv production (only had about 20 workers at the end). Again, should have assumed mutas when he saw lair. Summary None of these guys really did a good execution of the build and anyone smart enough to realize lair = spire will put up some turrets and end up with a worker advantage while being able to expand with marauders and turrets. isn't that what you expect from random ladder players who obviously do not have the Multi-tasking of Morrow or LZ? i don't think this is the answer to Pro gaming but for ladder probably so | ||
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Arcticc
United States203 Posts
Summary None of these guys really did a good execution of the build and anyone smart enough to realize lair = spire will put up some turrets and end up with a worker advantage while being able to expand with marauders and turrets. How do marauders help against mutas denying an expo while you get your own up? | ||
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Deleted User 45971
533 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:24 Moonling wrote: isn't that what you expect from random ladder players who obviously do not have the Multi-tasking of Morrow or LZ? i don't think this is the answer to Pro gaming but for ladder probably so So you should assume your opponent is terrible and play in a way that would lose against a decent player in order to win against a bad player? Sounds good. | ||
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English
United States475 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:38 Potatisodlaren wrote: So you should assume your opponent is terrible and play in a way that would lose against a decent player in order to win against a bad player? Sounds good. It's good to start somewhere... | ||
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
Not good enough. A strategy that relies on the opponent making mistakes means that an opponent who doesn't make mistakes will simply beat the strategy. Perhaps the strategy can adapt, perhaps not. The point is this strategy will not allow you to beat anyone your level, only players worse than you. | ||
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