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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 21 2010 15:43 GMT
#1
Not sure if this has been posted here before. Friend of mine just pointed out to me that SC2 online game statistics from xfire don't show very positive future for SC2. It's rapidly dropping which of course isn't good.

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Is this just the casual players doing the sp, trying the mp and then moving on or is there something to be worried about? Or is there just something I'm missing about the stat graph.

There are not much information on how the statistics are calculated so this maybe a bogus info but I thought I would post it if someone can clarify on it.

The link to the xfire page: http://www.xfire.com/games/sc2/StarCraft_II/
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 21 2010 15:44 GMT
#2
I dont understand why league of legends is played more than sc2
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 15:45:21
August 21 2010 15:45 GMT
#3


I think theyre just reading the ingame number of online gamers ?

But it's normal for a game to drop after release. There's always the people who try out the games in the first few days then start playing less
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
August 21 2010 15:45 GMT
#4
Unless you can somehow put this in context with the first 20-25 days of other big multiplayer releases, I don't see the value in this. Obviously the amount of activity in a game will drop after it's first couple weekends.
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G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2010 15:46 GMT
#5
I think its just casual gamers who go into sc2 and finnish the campaign, try the multiplayer and get destroyed by the HUGE starcraft 1 fanbase and then decide that they are too far behind in skill level and just quit.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 21 2010 15:47 GMT
#6
I always see ~1million people online on bnet at minimum (and that's at 12 pm-1am CET which shows my next argument).
And I don't have xfire myself which a lot of other people don't have either.
For me it just shows that the people with sc2 and xfire are playing less rather than implying it isn't showing a promising future for sc2.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 21 2010 15:47 GMT
#7
You have to realize that this numbers are only x-fire users playing the game. They get these data from the x-fire clients.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
August 21 2010 15:49 GMT
#8
On August 22 2010 00:44 Assault_1 wrote:
I dont understand why league of legends is played more than sc2

It's a free game
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
August 21 2010 15:49 GMT
#9
Xfire is a bad source for statistics imo. Not everyone uses xfire and not everyone keeps xfire running when playing sc2 even when they are playing sc2. It's too inconsistent to actually use that data for anything.
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
August 21 2010 15:50 GMT
#10
is it 1 million on bent for each region or just the EU region? cus 1 million is the MAX number i saw ever on bnet for SEA
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 21 2010 15:52 GMT
#11
On August 22 2010 00:46 G3nXsiS wrote:
I think its just casual gamers who go into sc2 and finnish the campaign, try the multiplayer and get destroyed by the HUGE starcraft 1 fanbase and then decide that they are too far behind in skill level and just quit.

The matchmaking isn't that bad. Most people win around 50% of their matchmaking games. The people at the very very bottom of the ladder, who account for a very small minority, have significantly below 50%, just as the people at the very very top of the ladder have significantly above 50%.
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Brazen[six]
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada203 Posts
August 21 2010 15:52 GMT
#12
All this really shows is that less xfire users are playing sc2 than they did in the beginning.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 21 2010 15:56 GMT
#13
On August 22 2010 00:52 Brazen[six] wrote:
All this really shows is that less xfire users are playing sc2 than they did in the beginning.


I understand that it's only xfire users but stats are stats for a reason, they are usually meant to show the direction. So it would make sense that if xfire users are dropping the other users are dropping too.
That of course doesn't make that a fact, but that's just the reason I decided to post this
junkacc
Profile Joined July 2010
99 Posts
August 21 2010 15:56 GMT
#14
XFire is not a good measure of total players but it is a good measure of trends. It's the same statistical method Nielson uses for TV ratings, with a constant number of PCs having XFire installed, you can interpolate if the popularity of a game is going up or down.

This is a bad omen for SC2.
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Calidus
Profile Joined April 2010
150 Posts
August 21 2010 16:10 GMT
#15
On August 22 2010 00:44 Assault_1 wrote:
I dont understand why league of legends is played more than sc2


free and it is a watered down Dota/Hon
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#16
I think this is more in correlation with school starting than anything else.
Novembermike
Profile Joined April 2010
United States102 Posts
August 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#17
This happens with every game. You are just looking at less activity as the game goes on. The big test will be what it looks like a year down the line and whether that can support the professional community.
Coach
Profile Joined February 2007
United States191 Posts
August 21 2010 16:13 GMT
#18
not all SC2 players use xfire.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
August 21 2010 16:15 GMT
#19
I believe the "1 million" also consists of people playing WoW. It said a million during beta too, so I don't think the numbers are exactly accurate.
Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
August 21 2010 16:24 GMT
#20
On August 22 2010 00:47 shannn wrote:
I always see ~1million people online on bnet at minimum ...


As far I was aware, the amount of people on Bnet includes WoW + SC2.

Anyone have solid information on this?
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