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[SPL] Playoffs - SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus, Day 1

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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:12:40
July 16 2010 08:29 GMT
#1
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Set 1: Match Point
Set 2: Polaris Rhapsody
Set 3: New Heartbreak Ridge
Set 4: Fighting Spirit
Set 5: Judgment Day
Set 6: Fortress
Set 7: Grand Line SE


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(Z)n.Die_soO <> (P)Snow
(P)BeSt <> (P)Movie
(Z)s2 <> (Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu <> (T)Iris
(Z)Hyuk <> (Z)Hydra
(T)Fantasy <> (T)sKyHigh

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(Z)n.Die_soO < (P)Snow
(P)BeSt > (P)Movie
(Z)s2 < (Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu > (T)Iris
(Z)Hyuk < (Z)Hydra
(T)Fantasy < (T)sKyHigh

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+ Show Spoiler +

Game 1: nice play by the winner, check it out
Game 2: winner dominates, nothing to see here
Game 3: BO win, dont bother
Game 4: watch if you have spare time
Game 5: dont bother
Game 6: the pony did its trick. recommended game


How to watch:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mystlord
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 23:24:28
July 16 2010 08:29 GMT
#2
Joining this pre-match interview is one of the generals and commanders of T1's european legion,
PoP(Zapp!Bang!Boom!)


SKT ended up 3rd in the regular season and will be facing CJ in their first PO match. The other possibility was to play WeMade instead. Are you satisfied that things went out that way? Did you originally preferred one opponent over the other ?


PoP : I do actually prefer the way things went, even though Oz 3-0’ing MBC in the last match was something nobody seemed to expect. WeMade Fox has been one quite scary team this season. Granted, none of their players seem to be in the form of their life, nor in a very impressive streak--even Baby, who was basically crushing everything on his way a few weeks back, hasn’t been doing too well lately. But still: RorO, Shine, Pure, Baby, Mind, Midas, (even) NaDa have all taken active part in their team’s superb season so far and that’s more depth than almost all of the other left teams, including CJ.

But the real reason I believe it’s a better match for SKT--and I know you’ll agree with me on this one--is that most of these players are Terran. Outside of T1’s so-called FBB (Fantasy-Bisu-BeSt) combo, the rest of the team would have really high chances to drop games to any of these Terrans. This would be fine during the regular season, but in a playoff match this actually can mean a couple of autolosses. We don’t have to worry about that too much against CJ: apart from Iris, none of their active players looks any good in TvZ. Especially not sKyHigh.

What do you think about the new PO format? Is it better than the old Super Ace?


PoP : It’s definitely better. Super Ace was a terrible idea, really. The current format is a lot more fair, while still giving teams second chances even if they happen to have a bad day, which I believe is a great thing when you realize they’ve practiced several months for just getting there. This is just like tennis, you can lose the first set 4-0 (6-0) and still be able to pull yourself together and come back if you have enough mental strength for it. I like it a lot. It keeps all the good elements from last PL, while getting rid of the worst one.

Share you thoughts about the map poll. Was it a good choice to bring back Outsider and HBR for the PO?


PoP : It definitely makes sense. The playoffs wraps up the entire PL season, including earlier rounds and Winner League. You have to expect to see the maps that were used throughout all these rounds. As for what I think of these maps--I don’t really have a strong opinion on them to be honest. A lot of them have been great and/or balanced, some of them a little less so. The only thing I’m a little disappointed about is how Outsider has been removed by teams in both of this round’s playoff matches. This is a map I’ve enjoyed watching games on a lot, it’s fun and dynamic and balanced. Hopefully we see some of it in the later rounds!

Both CJ and SKT are coming in this match after a strong performance in the last round of PL. Who do you think has the edge, who is the favorite? (way to ask the same questions as flamewheel)


PoP : Apart from EffOrt, who will definitely be very tough to beat no matter the circumstances/matchup/whatever, if SKT can avoid their other top players’ best matchups (especially Skyhigh and Snow’s vT’s), they should be fine. They only have two active Terrans (Fantasy and Canata) so this is not very likely to happen though. In any case, with HyuK and s2 in shape, I do believe T1 has a lot more depth going for them.

Make your predictions


PoP : T1 to win 2 sets to 1. Just a gut feeling though. 2-0 would be possible as well, as well as 2-1 for CJ if T1 gets very unlucky with the matchups twice or has a bad day. The only result I’m confident will not happen is 2-0 in favor of CJ.

Are we crowning the last PL champion of BroodWar now? How do you see the future of professional SC1?


PoP : I sure fucking hope not. This would be a huge mistake for whoever ends up taking the decision to ditch it--unless this is decided by the fans or the players themselves, obviously, but that will just not happen. Actually, I don’t see any reason for BW and SC2 not to coexist, at least until one of them ends up naturally getting a decisive edge over the other.

My personal opinion? BW progaming should and will not die anytime soon, because it’s just a more brilliant game in almost every regard, both from a player and a spectator viewpoint. This is as simple as that.

Thank you for your time ! Last words ?


PoP : T1 is coming for you, KT. You better prepare your asses off--no one’s going to go easy on you on August 7th!
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 08:34:32
July 16 2010 08:33 GMT
#3
disciple made the OP, SKT won this match already. YEAHHHH!

But who to cheer for ... my favourite player Bisu or my favourite overall team CJ, DAMN IT WHY!
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 08:35:01
July 16 2010 08:33 GMT
#4
huh, well thats confusing. i'll repost then, i guess?

day 1:
(P)Bisu < Match Point > (Z)EffOrt
(P)BeSt < Polaris Rhapsody > (T)sKyHigh
(T)Fantasy < New Heartbreak Ridge > (P)Snow
(Z)Hyuk < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Hydra

day 2:
(T)Ssak < Fortress > (P)Snow
(Z)n.die_soO < Grand Line SE > (Z)Hydra
(T)Canata < Judgment Day > (T)sKyHigh
(P)Bisu < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Movie
(T)Fantasy < Match Point > (T)Iris
(Z)s2 < Fighting Spirit > (Z)EffOrt

GG, SPL may as well be over.

On July 16 2010 17:33 kOre wrote:
disciple made the OP, SKT won this match already.


he's made it twice, so SKT won twice over.
boomer hands
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 16 2010 08:34 GMT
#5
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credits to tree.hugger
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 16 2010 08:35 GMT
#6
On July 16 2010 17:34 IntoTheWow wrote:
[image loading]


credits to tree.hugger

Remember that one time Paul was wrong? This is that time in StarCraft
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
XThunderyX
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States367 Posts
July 16 2010 08:52 GMT
#7
Since Oz is out, I have to root for SKT, since my second favorite player (Hyuk) is on it!
(Z)s2 <Match Point>(T)Berserker
(T)Fantasy<Polaris Rhapsody>(T)sKyHigh
(P)Bisu<New Heartbreak Ridge>(Z)EffOrt
(Z)Hyuk<Fighting Spirit>(P)Snow
(T)BoxeR<Judgment Day>(Z)Hydra
<Fortress>
<Grand Line SE>

I have this feeling that they're gonna pull BoxeR out. And he's gonna win. And millions of fans cream their pants. And the CJ coach cries
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
July 16 2010 08:54 GMT
#8
I hope Boxer plays and Canata wins a game
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 16 2010 09:18 GMT
#9
--- Nuked ---
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 16 2010 09:18 GMT
#10
Hmm, so which thread will be the one we will use ? This one has a complete OP, but the other one already has 4 pages of hype and interesting predictions. Could you maybe edit the first thread ?
Nice banner in OP btw !
ॐ
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
July 16 2010 09:30 GMT
#11
the other thread got closed guys...
boomer hands
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 16 2010 09:32 GMT
#12
there was a bit of miscommunication, Im sorry for my mistake
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 16 2010 09:44 GMT
#13
Yea things got mixed up should be sorted now
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 09:59:47
July 16 2010 09:48 GMT
#14
Well okay, I'll post my predictions again !

That's gonna be tight. CJ is the hardest Team for SKT. It really depends on who the coaches will send. It can be a one sided Win for both SKT and CJ.

SKT favored :
(T)Fantasy > (P)Movie
(P)Best > sKyHigh
(P)Bisu vs (Z)EffOrt or SKT can guess CJ will send (Z)EffOrt on this game and send a sacrifical lamb or a vZ sniper, but the result is unpredictible.
(Z)Hyuk > (P)Snow

Easy win for SKT, I cant see (P)Snow beat (Z)Hyuk who made the ro16 in both SL, or sKyHigh win a TvP. And SKT zergs can be good snipers ( s2 just beat JD ). And (P)Bisu has shown amazing PvZ recently and can beat (Z)EffOrt if he plays well.

CJ favored :
(P)Movie > (Z)s2
(T)sKyHigh > (T)Fantasy
(P)Snow < (P)Bisu
(T)Iris > (Z)Hyuk
(Z)EffOrt > (P)Best
Easy 4-1 for CJ, I cant see (P)Best beating (Z)EffOrt, or (Z)Hyuk beating (T)Iris lol.

That's because of all these 1 or 2 match up players... (Snow, Skyhigh, Best, ...)
I would not be suprised to the first scenario for day 1, and the second scenario for day 2 haha

Anywayz, SKT FIGHTING !!!!!!!!
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 16 2010 09:51 GMT
#15
you cant see hyuk beat iris? with the way hes been winning zvt lately? hes beaten forgg like 3 times and ruby twice, amongst other wins
HEY MEYT
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 16 2010 10:08 GMT
#16
On July 16 2010 18:51 JohnColtrane wrote:
you cant see hyuk beat iris? with the way hes been winning zvt lately? hes beaten forgg like 3 times and ruby twice, amongst other wins


I admit Hyuk has a good momentum, and we all love to say "Hyuked!" after his wins, but I don't think his ZvT is that good. And T1 zergs are quite interchangeable lol. In my CJ favored case, it could be as well Movie beats Hyuk, and Iris beats s2.

I think the keys for a CJ favored case are giving Movie a PvZ, and Skyhigh a TvT. Snow has a great PvT too but his other match up are very shaky.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 16 2010 10:10 GMT
#17
i dont think movie is likely to beat hyuk. i dont know if hyuk is more likely to beat iris than to lose, but he has beaten better players and more often too, so i cant say that 'i cant see' it happening
HEY MEYT
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 16 2010 10:28 GMT
#18
On July 16 2010 17:35 kOre wrote:
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On July 16 2010 17:34 IntoTheWow wrote:
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credits to tree.hugger

Remember that one time Paul was wrong? This is that time in StarCraft


I think Paul was right every game

I was so excited for this and now Im sad. No love for euros 5am here. I can only hope that this goes to game 3. At least that way I can watch.

GoGo CJ!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
July 16 2010 10:41 GMT
#19
MAN IM GONNA WATCH EVERY PLAYOFF OF SKT!! WOO WOO

OT:
When will we get Fantasy league for this?? or amiaskindarongkweshn??
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
July 16 2010 10:46 GMT
#20
Come playoffs, coach Cho's decisions, although they sometimes might seem weird, always pay off.

I believe.
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