• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:09
CET 04:09
KST 12:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!41$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 969 users

[SPL] Playoffs - SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus, Day 1 - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 88 89 90 Next
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
July 17 2010 02:38 GMT
#81
On July 17 2010 11:35 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 11:28 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:22 KumquatExpress wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:59 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:57 Nemesis wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:35 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 09:57 Lightwip wrote:
On July 17 2010 09:45 pieisamazing wrote:
The thought of bisu beating anyone but hydra or some newbie b-teamer is absolutely hilarious.

keep dreaming fanboys

You really did your research for this statement, didn't you?
+ Show Spoiler [Nice OZ+Zerg icons] +

I'm probably feeding a troll, but why not.

Everyone quotes that like it's a sign of Bisu's undeniable return. I (and everyone else) know all about that game and how Jaedong had a clear advantage until he sacrificed his army for basically nothing.

Anyway, yes, this is what I was talking about when I said "keep dreaming, fanboys."

Edit: Also, since we're playing that game, nice SKT and protoss Icons lmao. Anyway, I don't deny that Bisu can have a lucky game against Jaedong and beat C-level zergs (such as hyvaa), but he's going to get crushed in every other matchup and by any competent zerg that doesn't throw the win away.

It's the sad truth.

I'm not taking side in this stupid argument, but I love how you criticize him for having an SKT and p icon as an argument while you yourself have an OZ and z icon.

Take a look at his quoted post, genius.


Ok, look, you're an Oz fan, most likely a Jaedong fan of course, and you detest Bisu. We understand that. But the fact remains that this is an SKT1/CJ Entus LR thread, and your comments are rather inflammatory and also aimed directly at half of the fans that are cheering for a team in this thread. I mean, look at your very first post - you're basically bashing Bisu because you don't like him and contributing absolutely nothing to the hype of this match.

Now, I'm an SKT/Bisu fan. But as a marginally sane person and someone who doesn't see the point behind arbitrary arguments being thrown around on a livereport thread before the match has even begun, I'm asking you to cease and desist, as it were, unless you can bring something more meaningful to the conversation.


I don't care about Bisu, at all. He's been showing less than stellar results and I find it laughable that people are "predicting" that he'll beat whoever he plays (look on the first couple pages for these 4-0 or 4-1 routes). I was posting that, and some fanboy decided to tried to unsuccessfully argue and then resort to passive-aggressive insults instead of debating.

You took a better approach, but are you seriously trying to tell me that I am banned from posting in here because I have an Oz icon? Ridiculous. This is part of the hype. It's not uncommon, unless your posts were all accumulated since the last season. This is the proleague finals. Even someone who wasn't good at Brood War (i.e. me) likes to watch the pros duke it out over fame, glory, and a bunch of prize money.

For a post that you think was so well thought-out, you are only adding fuel to the fire. Don't. Let the fanboy never respond to me or let his arguments fizzle out.


I'm hoping one more person asking you to chill out will give you some humility. You posted a jarring remark about a player a lot of people have strong feelings for in the team's live report thread the day of the playoffs without evidencing your claim. You were looking to piss someone off and you did it, now people are asking you to stop.


How is it the team's live report thread? It is literally a topic about SKT and CJ, not just SKT. One guy asked me to stop after another person attacked me for pointing out something that we all know based on the evidence of the past six months. You're really full of yourself if you think that humility (not that it's needed in this case) is something you can instill in somebody by posting and telling them so.
connoisseur
4Horizons
Profile Joined October 2009
United States11 Posts
July 17 2010 02:38 GMT
#82
In honor of SKT, I will devote myself to wearing SKT team colors until the end... even if it means purchasing a whole new orange wardrobe to match their new salmon-like uniforms!

GO SK TELECOOOOOOOOOOOOOM~~~!! \o/
When in doubt, LHOP it
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 17 2010 02:40 GMT
#83
On July 17 2010 11:17 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 10:46 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Huh, no CJ fan interview?

He tried, but:

Disciple: So, CJ ended the season in the 6th position, and might've played SKT or MBC. Are you happy with how things turned out?
Hot_Bid: (-_-)

Disciple: I see, so do you feel that the new PL playoff format is in CJ's favor, or does it work against them?
IntoTheWow: (-_-)

Disciple: So uh... how about these maps? Outsider? That's pretty chill. How about HBR? Like that one?
alffla: (-_-)

Disciple: Indeed. And how do you see this match turning out?
GTR: (-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-) to zero.

Disciple: Fuck it, I'm going to find SuperArc.


I just like an equal dose of fanboyism before a game. I feel empty without my CJ fanboy interview rations.
Remember Violet.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
July 17 2010 02:42 GMT
#84
On July 17 2010 11:37 KumquatExpress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 11:28 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:22 KumquatExpress wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:59 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:57 Nemesis wrote:
On July 17 2010 10:35 pieisamazing wrote:
On July 17 2010 09:57 Lightwip wrote:
On July 17 2010 09:45 pieisamazing wrote:
The thought of bisu beating anyone but hydra or some newbie b-teamer is absolutely hilarious.

keep dreaming fanboys

You really did your research for this statement, didn't you?
+ Show Spoiler [Nice OZ+Zerg icons] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Pi32uXn3o

I'm probably feeding a troll, but why not.

Everyone quotes that like it's a sign of Bisu's undeniable return. I (and everyone else) know all about that game and how Jaedong had a clear advantage until he sacrificed his army for basically nothing.

Anyway, yes, this is what I was talking about when I said "keep dreaming, fanboys."

Edit: Also, since we're playing that game, nice SKT and protoss Icons lmao. Anyway, I don't deny that Bisu can have a lucky game against Jaedong and beat C-level zergs (such as hyvaa), but he's going to get crushed in every other matchup and by any competent zerg that doesn't throw the win away.

It's the sad truth.

I'm not taking side in this stupid argument, but I love how you criticize him for having an SKT and p icon as an argument while you yourself have an OZ and z icon.

Take a look at his quoted post, genius.


Ok, look, you're an Oz fan, most likely a Jaedong fan of course, and you detest Bisu. We understand that. But the fact remains that this is an SKT1/CJ Entus LR thread, and your comments are rather inflammatory and also aimed directly at half of the fans that are cheering for a team in this thread. I mean, look at your very first post - you're basically bashing Bisu because you don't like him and contributing absolutely nothing to the hype of this match.

Now, I'm an SKT/Bisu fan. But as a marginally sane person and someone who doesn't see the point behind arbitrary arguments being thrown around on a livereport thread before the match has even begun, I'm asking you to cease and desist, as it were, unless you can bring something more meaningful to the conversation.


I don't care about Bisu, at all. He's been showing less than stellar results and I find it laughable that people are "predicting" that he'll beat whoever he plays (look on the first couple pages for these 4-0 or 4-1 routes). I was posting that, and some fanboy decided to tried to unsuccessfully argue and then resort to passive-aggressive insults instead of debating.

You took a better approach, but are you seriously trying to tell me that I am banned from posting in here because I have an Oz icon? Ridiculous. This is part of the hype. It's not uncommon, unless your posts were all accumulated since the last season. This is the proleague finals. Even someone who wasn't good at Brood War (i.e. me) likes to watch the pros duke it out over fame, glory, and a bunch of prize money.

For a post that you think was so well thought-out, you are only adding fuel to the fire. Don't. Let the fanboy never respond to me or let his arguments fizzle out.


You were doing so well until that last sentence. All I was asking for was less of that unconstrained trolling and bashing up there. I think it's fine that you don't think Bisu will win his game; I just didn't agree with your method of saying it.


You're right. It was an unnecessary addition. My mistake.

Also, I think there's a possibility that Bisu can win his game, but judging from the last six months, I really don't see it happening unless his opponent is either really bad, or makes a game-changing mistake a'la Jaedong.
connoisseur
KumquatExpress
Profile Joined October 2009
United States344 Posts
July 17 2010 02:45 GMT
#85
Aha! Decency hath been restored, yea?
Speedythinggoesin, speedythingcomesout.
yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
July 17 2010 03:01 GMT
#86
One hour to go.

I should be studying for MCATs, but I'm not.
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
July 17 2010 03:03 GMT
#87
Hoping for some great games! SKT's got this though
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 17 2010 03:07 GMT
#88
Why are all the streamers doing MBC vs FOX?

Answer: Because MBCGame doesn't have a good stream at all.

Damn you MBC! Don't fail on an EPIC playoff match!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mystlord
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
July 17 2010 03:13 GMT
#89
On July 17 2010 11:45 KumquatExpress wrote:
Aha! Decency hath been restored, yea?

Yes. High-five. o/
connoisseur
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 17 2010 03:16 GMT
#90
On July 17 2010 12:07 Mystlord wrote:
Why are all the streamers doing MBC vs FOX?

Answer: Because MBCGame doesn't have a good stream at all.

Damn you MBC! Don't fail on an EPIC playoff match!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mystlord

ustream makes me cry when it off-airs in the middle of something important.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 17 2010 03:17 GMT
#91
To everyone automatically matching CJ players to maps, they quit the 1 player=1 map practice more than one year ago, on the other hand Movie was the player who extabilished how to play vs the zerg HBR 4scourge/6den/7muta build, so I wouldn't count him out, I'd blame part of his slump to the recent map pool which hasn't been favoring his style.

Fantasy's only chances of winning a game are against BByong, Hydra and Movie, his TvT has been as overrated as Hwasin's, SkyHigh ridiculized him at the beginning of the season by exploiting his "I only use scans vP" style and I think other CJ players will follow his example.

The SK zergs are big wildcards, Hyuk and Soo are both able to beat EffOrt whose ZvT lost a bit of brilliance recently.

Bisu has only shown style in his PvZs where he went for the modern 1star sair DT into goon/reaver bust, he is the guy with the most cards up his sleeve imo.

SK's terran legacy has pretty much crumbled to the absence of a second terran, Best has improved a lot and is now a medium-good player, the best thing for CJ would be to feed him Iris or have a fresh A-teamer outplay him before he gets his macro going.

Effort is good, Snow would pretty comfortably beat fantasy under any circumstance, especially since IdrA praised his intelligence along with his mechanics.

From what I see it's going to be a big rock paper scissors game, at least we can expect interesting builds in most of the games except for possible ZvZs.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 17 2010 03:25 GMT
#92
Let's hope Canata recovered his skill entirely so we can have a 6 hour Canata vs Skyhigh game.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 17 2010 03:27 GMT
#93
It just occoured to me, if we look past these two teams the best protoss in the playoffs is (P)Stats and the best zerg is (Z)RorO. That is a scarry lack of depth in the non-terran races. Untill (P)Kal and (Z)Calm stop playing like scrubs, they don't count.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
July 17 2010 03:31 GMT
#94
On July 17 2010 12:25 Lightwip wrote:
Let's hope Canata recovered his skill entirely so we can have a 6 hour Canata vs Skyhigh game.


Oh my gosh, please for the love of God, don't let Canata play Skyhigh...I actually want to sleep tonight. =.=
Bisu is the man
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 17 2010 03:32 GMT
#95
On July 17 2010 12:27 hacklebeast wrote:
It just occoured to me, if we look past these two teams the best protoss in the playoffs is (P)Stats and the best zerg is (Z)RorO. That is a scarry lack of depth in the non-terran races. Untill (P)Kal and (Z)Calm stop playing like scrubs, they don't count.


Even with these two teams, Stats is the best protoss in the playoffs. 8)
Remember Violet.
yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
July 17 2010 03:34 GMT
#96
Movie is 4-0 on Fortress, and is the only Protoss so far to win there. (Granted, small sample size.)

Snow has good karma on Fighting Spirit. He beat Flash there, as well as winning his Dream League finals match against Soulkey there.

Match Point is Fantasy's map, plus I don't Coach Cho risking wasting Effort there when it's such a good PvZ map for Toss. Hell, Best has a good chance at beating Effort there. Send a Terran there and on HBR. A Zerg for PR, b/c Tosses love that map.

Those would be my guesses for CJ.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
July 17 2010 03:34 GMT
#97
rly great banner disciple! in fact, the whole layout is really elegant!
gogo SKT! I hope Bisu dominates tonight =0
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 17 2010 03:37 GMT
#98
On July 17 2010 12:17 r33k wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
To everyone automatically matching CJ players to maps, they quit the 1 player=1 map practice more than one year ago, on the other hand Movie was the player who extabilished how to play vs the zerg HBR 4scourge/6den/7muta build, so I wouldn't count him out, I'd blame part of his slump to the recent map pool which hasn't been favoring his style.

Fantasy's only chances of winning a game are against BByong, Hydra and Movie, his TvT has been as overrated as Hwasin's, SkyHigh ridiculized him at the beginning of the season by exploiting his "I only use scans vP" style and I think other CJ players will follow his example.

The SK zergs are big wildcards, Hyuk and Soo are both able to beat EffOrt whose ZvT lost a bit of brilliance recently.

Bisu has only shown style in his PvZs where he went for the modern 1star sair DT into goon/reaver bust, he is the guy with the most cards up his sleeve imo.

SK's terran legacy has pretty much crumbled to the absence of a second terran, Best has improved a lot and is now a medium-good player, the best thing for CJ would be to feed him Iris or have a fresh A-teamer outplay him before he gets his macro going.


Effort is good, Snow would pretty comfortably beat fantasy under any circumstance, especially since IdrA praised his intelligence along with his mechanics.

+ Show Spoiler +
From what I see it's going to be a big rock paper scissors game, at least we can expect interesting builds in most of the games except for possible ZvZs.

I'd favor Fantasy over Snow any day of the week. The rest of your analysis looks good though
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
July 17 2010 03:38 GMT
#99
Do playoff matches take forever to get started like starleague semis/finals? Just wondering when I should expect the games to begin..
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
July 17 2010 03:40 GMT
#100
Hope the match will be great, and hope SKT gonna win that!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 88 89 90 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group A
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 110
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19448
Sea 2130
NaDa 67
Noble 35
Icarus 2
Dota 2
monkeys_forever459
NeuroSwarm100
League of Legends
JimRising 632
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor151
Other Games
tarik_tv11516
summit1g9152
ViBE48
goatrope38
Models1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick613
Counter-Strike
PGL138
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 128
• davetesta7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21609
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 51m
WardiTV Korean Royale
8h 51m
LAN Event
11h 51m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
14h 51m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
16h 51m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 8h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.