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RNG vote sucks....I'm not following that. Infund is right, lynching inactive is better. -__-...And besides, long running tradition, shows people we mean business...Ya feel me home slice? | ||
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On July 18 2010 08:12 Jayme wrote: As far as I know they can't miss any votes at all. We have more of a chance to land on a townie with any day 1 method we choose simply due to the fact that there are 24 townies and 6 mafia...there is no way of avoiding this. As a matter of fact I would say we have a better chance of hitting a good red player through RNG because I mean...who's to say that this "good townie" isn't just a red being a good townie. I understand lynching an inactive is killing someone who wouldn't have helped anyway but you're still doing just that...just about guaranteeing a green lynch which is completely pointless. As I said before I'm willing to go with either, there isn't much we could do. The issue I see with RNG is verifying if it's actually RNG. Actually....I'm done for this....Let me read a little more and we'll see who I want to die.... Also, I'm tired of these idiotic plans. We can pm. Dt, check someone PM them, pass turn, check someone PM them and the other person, pass turn. Quit playing like idiots and realize the benefits of having PMs....Nubby ass mafioso. And go back and look at games with PM's day one, no body does anything that day... The best thing I could say is everyone Roleclaim to me, and lynch me today...Or wait til tomorrow and do it. I'd inform of match ups, over counts, and die out as proof. How does that sound? I can send the PM out, and inform before death of everyone who doesn't respond, over counts of roles, ect. ect. I could be checked night one if that would be a problem, (wouldn't recommend organized multi checking though) and lynched day 2. Even if I was god father, god father would be out and too many blues to snipe with a list of roles and over claims. *yawn* But I don't really wanna die too bad, or abuse how easy this game could be. | ||
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-_- I have never liked your writing style from any game. From my perspective it makes perfect sense BC. But I guess it would only make sense to me....Lolz | ||
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On July 19 2010 08:36 BrownBear wrote: My bad, didn't realize you could abstain. Should have done that, but at this point it's not like it really matters :/ ....Shitty post by brownbear.... Hyperbola is probably right about him. I'm voting for brownbear from now on. On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote: Guys, really? Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy: Brown Bear Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? Shitting reasoning for brown bear | ||
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On July 20 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote: Nah OpZ, not just one shitty post by BrownBear. Nearly all his posts are shitty. Don't really wanna dig up the post, but I do recall him voting first, then saying "I'm gonna go read". Like what the hell is that? I'm gonna blindly vote, then read, then afterwards he just makes it even better by saying, "Oh, I could change my vote. But nahhhhh" We should be looking at chaoser...my first accusations, you know are just bull shit (thank you for the paying attention to how I play every game Roffles -_-...Really makes me angry BC jumped and got me labeled as stupid when I name some stupid plan and everything, but hey, can't blame him. I liked the idea cuz I know I'm town, and knowing that my death would verify everything i said, ect, ect.) Personally, I think whoever DT checks first they should contact given that they aren't mafia, tell them to state that, get PM'd role claims, post claims, get lynched, and then use the list....insta win......Chances of checking GF 1/29.....Chances of hitting a mafia not gf, 1/24. So yea...But hey.... But chaoser hasn't played with me, and go look at his posts...pretty low caliber. So far, my FoS is brownbear and chaoser. | ||
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I'm always against sheep voting...And I've seen better play from brownbear. Baaaaaaaaa | ||
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On July 20 2010 14:37 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well according to day post, both the victim and the medic get a PM from the mod so claiming to each other should be safe unless i'm missing some obvious hole here in my tired state. If a vet was hit, he should NOT role claim imo, as i think it gives away too much info (the mafia don't know if it was a med protect or a vet) I think you're right that a double stack is really unlikely. If nobody steps forward to claim the 2nd hit, then it is possible i guess. Whoever took the 2nd hit needs to state it publicly in the thread. The mafia already knows who they hit; there is no disadvantage and the town benefits from this info. If mafia double stacked, one of them would step forward and claim they took a hit. Why? Because it would virtually confirm one of them....but lets ignore that. Mafia never do that. | ||
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On July 20 2010 22:15 Amber[LighT] wrote: Why is it that all of a sudden d3 claims he was protected and BrownBear becomes the official 'active' townie with all of this great insight. Up until about 12 hours ago (last time I checked the thread) he was nowhere to be found, and now that 1 person gave him something to run with, he's invaded about 2/3's of the last 2 pages with nonsense analysis about d3. What's even worse is that he wants our "other" veteran to roleclaim. ATTN OTHER VETERAN: DO NOT ROLECLAIM!!!! The goal of the veteran, as stated numerous times, is to be the meatshield. His vote is only worth 1, regardless of how long he is left in the game. His job is to soak damage up from night kills. By outing our veterans, we are pretty much giving the mafia enough information to say "don't hit these players." I'm against that plan completely, and I'm against BrownBear. Hopefully the DT's are working their magic from last night and getting in contact with the players they checked. The DT role is pretty black/white and very strong in this game, so we need to keep those guys alive. The DT's should form their own circles and use the players they checked as voice-boxes. The players who have been checked should, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, reveal to any other player who the DT is unless they are verified. The only way the DT circles should combine is if AND ONLY IF by chance a DT checks another DT. Please be smart about this guys. I'm sticking with the opinion of the previous night to lynch the most useless player: ##Vote: BrownBear I'll consider changing my vote if some of the more 'influential players' have a better suggestion. -_- You said everything I was about to say...Glad I read to end of thread. Another job interview today guys, but I should be back. I also don't like BrownBear's plan. ##Vote:BrownBear Dunno where this will lead, but I'm willing to change my vote. | ||
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On July 21 2010 00:51 d3_crescentia wrote: I am clear 100%; you just don't know it yet. On the other hand, are YOU clear 100%? Let's find out, one way or another. What, indeed? Mafia BC likes not being paid attention to... | ||
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On July 21 2010 01:11 Amber[LighT] wrote: wtf dude where you getting all these job interviews from? Share the love... I only have about 1 month left before I'm officially unemployed  Same place...I got there yesterday, but the lady that processes people in didn't work. The manager didn't have my cell because I met with him personally before that and he scheduled it before looking at my application. So it got rescheduled. I got half an hour and my pants just got put in the dryer. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. | ||
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On July 21 2010 10:16 Roffles wrote: You came in with the deciding vote in the end. Hyperbola's fate wasn't sealed and he easily could have been the one still alive today and not youngminii. The person who started Hyperbola's vote train was the guy Hyperbola accused at the very beginning without reading anything. The Mafia has no reason to start a bandwagon on Day 1. No need to risk, especially when they know who's what and they have the power to pretty much bandwagon any vote at the last minute to skew it in their favor. Which brings us back to you, the deciding vote in the end. I'd say you sealed Hyperbola's fate by jumping on board late, which can very possibly be due to Mafia bandwagoning at the last moment. Also, don't bring up this noob card. No one cares if you're a noob. Bandwagoning late day is more telling then bandwagoning early. Especially among rather new people. And the mafia could wretch their votes away as the bandwagon grows, saying they were being rash in voting for someone. Don't try and argue about fates being sealed and saying bandwagoning is risky. I've seen it pay off quiet a bit before. I don't bandwagon though...I voted brownbear early because he posted a stupid plan, AND jumped on a BS bandwagon. *still reading thread, had to go pick my gf's puppy up today (lil chihuahua, and posting from her shitty lap top) so gimme a minute* | ||
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On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote: This is the stupidest thing, pretty much ever. Is there evidence against chaoser? Nobody can really explain what it is. Is there evidence against DTA? Hardly. Is there evidence against Subversion? Yes, there is. 1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member. 2) Subversion's post, in which he commented on how well the mafia were doing was (a) not true, and (b) something that I don't think I've ever heard anyone innocent ever say in a game of mafia. That's something I can see a new mafia member thinking a townie would say, but that's not something a townie would actually say. Furthermore, lynching Subversion just makes plain sense from a town perspective. A whole host of people have put their reputations on the line to save Subversion. Nobody has said anything in chaoser's defense. Nobody has said anything in DTA's defense. They've been left to defend themselves, and, apparently to some people that looks guilty. What does that mean? Aside from being absurdly suspicious, if we lynch Subversion, then we gain a ton of information. If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat. citi.zen has been defending Subversion nearly every post he gets, albeit a little more subtlety. Almost everyone in the game is on record saying something about Subversion, which means that if we lynch him, we get to figure out who was right, and who was wrong and proceed from there. None of the other lynch candidates are even close to as valuable as Subversion. If we lose another day lynching people who aren't mafia, then we're going to be in trouble. YoungMini has put his reputation on the line for DTA...Give me a sec...I'll link it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=44#873 Now shush. | ||
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On July 21 2010 15:05 SiNiquity wrote: I think both BrownBear and Subversion are just terrible townies (God save us if they're blue). Curious where Rastaban disappeared to, and still want to know why he left his vote on citi.zen from pre-game. ##Abstain for now, but it won't be there come lynching time. So much to sift through Bad post. I will probably vote for you shortly... *yawn*...And probably scrape up some analysis on you. I'm not expecting much work in that. So you wanna claim now, or after I drag the wagon towards you? On July 22 2010 01:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: Unvote BrownBear ##Vote: Subversion Though I think BrownBear's analysis and plan is crappy, we can get more info is we lynch Subversion. Lynching BB just proves that we, as a town, aren't as organized as we would like to be. The Subversion discussion caught a lot of players, many more than the BB discussion. By determining Subversion's role we can pinpoint other key players who were pushing for and against the Subversion lynch. I'm willing to risk putting my name into the hat to get the town on a better path to victory. Depending on the flip, the DT's should try and look at key players involved in the Subversion dispute. Bad Amber...Highly suspicious looking... *note to self, vote DarthTheinAn* On July 22 2010 03:16 Amber[LighT] wrote: If we play the game with this logic then BC should have been killed already, but he's still alive. Opz is still alive, he's a strong player too. What about Roffles, he's incredibly cunning and plays the part of mafioso and townie very well. Pyrr should have been killed based upon this logic as well. Infun should have probably been a good target. You're playing the game very counter-intuitively. You're insisting that strong players should die, not suspicious players. DTA is playing the Chezinu card, which is common play. There's always guaranteed to be one of those idiot players in the game. The host himself has played this card before in games... I can't believe the people that are coming forward insisting that killing subversion will gain no knowledge. Killing DTA just verifies his play-style. We can actually tie a connection between DTA and Subversion as well as the people who are trying to avoid talking about DTA at all, or those who are supporting one lynch target over another. I'm not going to sit here and say killing DTA is wrong, he is still a target due to his play-style this game, but he's going to give us less information than lynching Subversion. Do whatever you want but don't justify your lynch vote by saying DTA is a good player and I think other people's opinions are strong, so this must be a good choice. Sheep. Amber, Amber, Amber...That's just showing us how many veterans are in the game. I'm personally not that good, I just often get really good hunches. BC is far better at playing mafia then me. He catches everything and knows when to lock his jaws on someone. He posts far more influential then I probably ever will. Hence why I hate following him, and have terrible distrust of him. He also isn't posting often, and the only game I've seen him mafia that's exactly what he was doing. Not posting often, but posting influentially. + Show Spoiler [Example of BC in action.] + On July 22 2010 04:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Going through this thread since I got home from work last night and began to filter through the vote info day 1, but more importantly, who seemed to push for random bandwagons. What is more surprising is that these bandwagons formed AFTER they had solidly defended themselves (hyper/young). Yet even with a defense, people were “unconvinced” of their innocence. The youngminii vote list is odd, after two defense posts and solid ones for day 1 at that, he still garnered people vote for him Infundi started the vote train with It’s a “placeholder” vote. He then argues with young and refuses to vote swap. Xelin posts a reason to vote for young very quickly after, He is gut shotting, not a very solid way to do it day 1. This post intrigues me, a lot. HE is blind trusting someone to follow for voting, which makes the third vote of a bandwagon that formed in the last 17 hours of the day, all 3 voting with in a page of eachother. Super odd to be formed a) so late and b) with next to no real debate. Odd vote choice as he has read the thread, comments little for his vote, but goes onto say how he would prefer to have the days lynch go, seems fair enough of a reason to avoid a no lynch. Of all the votes for young, this one strikes me as the most reasonable, as it is voting based on things he has said, and things he disagrees with and is voting for it. Now, that that is done, lets go see what day 2 looks like for these 5. This vote is a completely different style, levels out with what he said the day before of not having time, here he obviously did as it’s a moderately informed vote. HOWEVER he later does this Here shows that rather than being certain of his choices, he going bandwagon to bandwagon. Subversion has had far to many people jump on him for being a bad player when the kid is new. And now another player, who should know better based on experience, is jumping at him. Seriously fishy imo. Very little activity overall and hoping onto bandwagons is all hes really doing. Going into description of who he thinks should be lynched based off two major candiates. Although DTA is a more recent bandwagon (well revival of one) This vote worries me. He starts by saying “I was going to vote for x” then immediately swaps his opinion to someone who has made a few minor slip ups (possible newb?) but votes out of fear of him saying something he shouldn’t. Odd reason to kill someone now, sounds like a pm land reason, although I have no way to prove that. To my knowledge, Infundi has just voted for double lynch today, and Roffles still hasn’t voted. Now looking at this, I see a few really oddly done votes, and it continues today. Amber seems to vote for whichever wagon at the time is attracting the most people, hopping onto Youngminii near its beginning, then proceeding to jump on BB when it was in its prime, now hes hopped over to subversion. This is insanely odd to me. Next we have jayme, doing very similar things, hopping onto popular wagon without really contributing much to the game other than hopping onto the wagon with a simple reason of why he joined it. His reason day 1 was sound, his reason right now not so much. I would also say as a minor link that potentially means nothing at this point, but both amber and jayme have voted together twice now (provided this vote stays final). NOW, lets talk about the last days playing. WHAT THE HELL GUYS. I am gone for a day, and seriously return to you all attacking well everyone Youngminii vs chaoser pandain vs chaoser Chaoser vs young/pandain everyone and their puppy vs subversion Shit jumping randomly out to attack dta people still discussing the crap of BB rather than just ignoring him based on stupidity. Lakrismamma attempting to start a fight with roffles based on inactivity (pot calling the kettle black?) The amount of just literally piles of crap to weed through is agonizingly annoying to read. ALL of responsible for this all should take a step bad and really see what you are doing. Because of all this nonsense there is really next to no real candidate for a lynch, instead its a bunch of minor bandwagons people can fan/hide in. If the group of you mainly responsible for this is town, shame on you guys, you should know better. Start reading what people are saying, not just arguing a gut shot. As its too damn late to try and coordinate on who to vote on, I AM choosing amber for having two days worth of sketchy voting habits + bandwagon hopping. ##vote amber[light] You're vote on Amber strikes me as a vote on a townie. Amber actively stated and repeated that veterans should not claim, possibly saving lives further down the road. iirc I don't think you were around and arguing that they shouldn't then, but who knows, I've been busy lately, and will go about checking that out. On July 22 2010 05:33 Roffles wrote: Subversion's little mafia mistake statement is just weird all in all and was part of that voting block (everyone's already mentioned this) so I'll put my vote on him for now but I'll have to see. Still a full day left. There, you outlined it yourself. You acknowledge that his little mafia mistake is just weird, yet you still cast your vote for him. It isn't something that Mafia is stupid enough to slip up on, yet you're fueling the bandwagon even though you acknowledge that it's weird and unusual, not necessarily harmful in all. I will be fine voting for roffles. Haven't read to see what whoever was lynched, and whatever they flipped, but I would have changed my vote off BB most likely. Chaoser vs Darth lynch votes will be very important. Most suspicious on whichever list that suceeds in lynching the other should be lynched. I.E. if darth gets lynched pops green, lynch someone who voted for darth. Vice versa. If red pops, lynch someone who voted for the other. Obviously. Atleast that's how I feel. On July 22 2010 10:01 Divinek wrote: Cool, let's kill anyone whose playstyle we don't like. Darth, I'd suggest you claim now...lol....And yes, I vote people based on play styles. (posting this all early. Day getting close to ending. 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On July 22 2010 10:07 DarthThienAn wrote: Opz, you should vote for Subversion. You know that post of Tree.Hugger's you linked on page 54 (the one where he says his reasons for saying to go for subversion...I addressed that.) So please stop claiming to gain more from subversion. Tree.Hugger, please post all reputations on the line for Darth and Subversion. Thanks in advance (though I don't suspect it will happen, AND if by some means it does, I'm sure it will be wrong) | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means wine in front of me. -_- Would you drink from your wine glass, or would you take the glass from the person who provided the wine glass? a.k.a. bunch of bs to make us run in circles. | ||
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On July 22 2010 10:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: YoungMini has put his reputation on the line for DTA...Give me a sec...I'll link it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=44#873 Now shush. I believe this was the closest I came to addressing it darth. It wasn't addressed at me. And I was using it to confirm why lynching either of you provides NOTHING on youngmini, because he defended both of you...in round about ways. | ||
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