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Poll: Steelseries Kinzu or Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0?Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 (558) 55% Steelseries Kinzu (454) 45% 1012 total votes Your vote: Steelseries Kinzu or Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0? (Vote): Steelseries Kinzu
(Vote): Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0
I'm planning to upgrade my old cheapo wireless mouse for the Starcraft 2 launch. I must say I've grown quite accustomed to its small size, light weight and liberating lack of cord but hell, if a gaming-grade mouse can help me improve my control...
My research so far has revealed contradicting evidence. Some people argue that you just have to play with what you like, and that high-dpi hardware is only truly useful in FPS games. Others swear by their high-tech mice. I'm on a limited budged so I probably won't be getting the brag gear Razer just announced, so I'm looking more for functionality. Some people recommended the salmosa or the microsoft intellimouse, but I haven't seen the final word on it.
I'm asking then TLers, in your infinite wisdom, is a gaming mouse a worthwhile investment and if so, what mouse gives you most bang for your buck?
EDIT:
After a lot of great feedback, I've narrowed it down to the Steelseries Kinzu or the Intellimouse 3.0
Both have the similar price, reputation and the light, claw-grip ergonomics I prefer. Fight!
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if you have the money get a "ikari" from SteelSeries, the best mouse i ever had. overall.
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I have both a Razer Lachesis and an Abyssus, and they're both fine, but they're definitely not made for RTS, just get a simple optical no nonsense mouse like all the pros use, preferably one that slides well and you're in great shape.
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Better mice are important for FPSes because skipping pixels is a difference between hits and misses sometimes, and most top FPS players have really low sensitivity for precision and therefore make very fast, big strokes of a mouse -- this highlights processing errors of inferior mice.
This is less of an issue with RTS as there's typically no delay in reclicking something for effectiveness sake, and precision clicking is static (no difference in weapons, distances, target sizes and such). This means that whatever you are most comfortable with and isn't such a piece of crap as to be unusable in game is what's right. Find something that'll fit your specifics of lightweight/small size.
Changing mice will not improve your control noticeably. Chances are it'll start off worse until you get used to it. The only real reason to change what you're comfortable with is if you can tell the mouse you're using has problems that get in the way of functionality. IF you can't then a new mouse will only be placebo.
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you dont need a fancy 200 dollar mouse, just get a good one like the logitech g1 it's very cheap now and works great for rts.
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obv...
edit: But seriously, I use Microsoft Intellimouse, by far the best mouse I've ever used, and dirt cheap
![[image loading]](http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/PrOrK8hc-l1pEiSxdHpW4ob1tubHZIKxeFZLt09aIvxH7y5YBgpsJWm3m70-2IFBfb1BlOMOIDxOiQzgZpvuI0bp0t4N-81Lgw3CblkxfrZuKuupyAGSyNsqy0Q)
And I did some tests and it's more accurate than the logitech G5 I bought, so I stopped using the g5.
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On June 16 2010 19:12 bubusls wrote:
I have both a Razer Lachesis and an Abyssus, and they're both fine, but they're definitely not made for RTS, just get a simple optical no nonsense mouse like all the pros use, preferably one that slides well and you're in great shape.
Care to refer to a specific model? I've heard a lot of people talk about Microsoft basic mice but I'm not sure which model they are talking about.
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I think you'd do best to just try some mice in the store if that's at all possible. Cause every hand is different and what some ppl like might not be what you like.
For instance many people like the bigger broader mice like the logitec MX1000 (only one i can remember, i know it's wireless and that sucks :p). But me personally I can only play with slender mice like my Razer Lachesis.
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On June 16 2010 19:18 Sueco wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 19:12 bubusls wrote:
I have both a Razer Lachesis and an Abyssus, and they're both fine, but they're definitely not made for RTS, just get a simple optical no nonsense mouse like all the pros use, preferably one that slides well and you're in great shape. Care to refer to a specific model? I've heard a lot of people talk about Microsoft basic mice but I'm not sure which model they are talking about.
I believe it's the intellimouse explorer.. Maybe this one http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00001-IntelliMouse-Explorer/dp/B00002JXBI but i'm not sure, there are loads of different versions of it
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If you prefer small mice, then get your hands on the logitech mini optical if at all possible.
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Yeah, IntelliMouse Explorer is basically the mouse for gaming if you don't want to get fancy. Mine died after 7 years of gaming, then I got Logitech MX518, which is way heavier even without any weights inside, but it's pretty solid for both FPS and RTS. I still think that most of the progaming gear is way overpriced for marginal performance increase.
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On June 16 2010 19:16 shawabawa wrote:obv... edit: But seriously, I use Microsoft Intellimouse, by far the best mouse I've ever used, and dirt cheap And I did some tests and it's more accurate than the logitech G5 I bought, so I stopped using the g5.
I hardly believe it's superior to the G5 in anyway. I'd like to see those test results and a writeup of them.
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Pretty much any mouse will do for an RTS. Most gaming mice have re-mappable buttons, so you can set up more convenient hotkeys. Some have cheaty macro options, but you shouldn't rely on those. I use a Logitech MX518, which is a pretty cheap optical mouse with 1800 DPI resolution and 8 buttons (5 of them are really convenient, three are tiny, but still reachable). I have also owned a Razer Copperhead, but it has a short in the (relatively thin) wire, and it feels a little more fragile in general. Razers seem to be more cheaply made than Logitechs, but that could just be the Copperhead, which is no longer produced. I've heard SteelSeries is making some cool mice now, but I've never seen one in person.
I'd recommend getting a Logitech G500. It's a solid laser mouse with agjustable weight, a bunch of convenient buttons, decent software (macros, etc.), a nifty scroll-wheel that alternates between clicky and clickless, and it's the latest iteration of many good logitech mice. Wired, of course.
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and if you like the MS Intellimouse shape but want something more fancy, try the Steelseries Xai. the Razer Deathadder is also a great mouse imho along with the razer imperator.
Used em all and love em all. Cant even decide which to take as standard, tho i tendered to the xai
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On June 16 2010 19:36 gillon wrote:
I hardly believe it's superior to the G5 in anyway. I'd like to see those test results and a writeup of them.
My test was: lower sensitivity in windows to minimum, move the mouse left and right as fast as I could. G5 skipped quite horribly, intellimouse was fine. Maybe I just got a dodgy g5, but I never really felt it was more accurate or better at all, and it's not like it's just because I wasn't used to it, I used it for over a year before switching back.
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On June 16 2010 19:16 shawabawa wrote:And I did some tests and it's more accurate than the logitech G5 I bought, so I stopped using the g5.
A lot of the pro CS 1.6 kids use the intellimouse. I've used the g5 until it broke on me and then I'm using a razer deathadder now. Going to a corded mouse is a very good choice for gaming. I'll never trust wireless shit.
Mostly its about finding something you're comfortable with and finding a solid sensitivity that fits well with your play style. That's all it comes down to and people will argue that their $160 mouse made them a better person but it's mostly their mind making excuses for paying so much.
Edit: oh yeah if you're a wow kid and you have 1000billion macros a mouse with a ton of buttons is nice...
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On June 16 2010 19:16 shawabawa wrote:edit: But seriously, I use Microsoft Intellimouse, by far the best mouse I've ever used, and dirt cheap .
Intellimouse is just pure awesome, I been using it since probably 4-5 years and it's good for RTS and FPS. Really good all around mouse.
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All this stuff aside I say go with a Razer mouse because they sponsored a TSL.
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What shoes are best for soccer? (see how stupid that is?)
dude, at least ask: what mouse do you have and what can you say about it.
there is no _best_ gaming mouse.
I myself have a steelseries xai and i am very pleased with it.(its a standard shaped mouse and it fits my hand) i got a special deal for the xai, but you dont need the extra buttons so you could go for the kinzu (same but without extra buttons)
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Any cheap logitech mouse will do the trick. I use this : ![[image loading]](http://static.letsbuyit.com/filer/images/fr/products/original/88/52/logitech-optical-mouse-rx250-souris-optique-8852915.jpeg)
Logitech RX250, works like a charm, no useless shit, 1000 dpi and costs 10$, before that I used the loved Mini Optical. Logitech is the way to go, you absolutely DO NOT need a Razer for RTS. Trust me and you will save money.
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